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legendary
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If I were a worker in those casinos who didn't give any help, I might just leave and find another company that would care with their employees.
Some people may think as you to consider leaving because disappointment but others may not as it is not easy to get a new job. In my country, leaving current job is the final decision. Most people won't consider it if they have no big problems because it is hard to find another job.

Other casino companies were able to help their employees but others can't.
It depends on the financial condition of the company. For a big company that has large fund reserves, they are probably able to help their employees. While other companies may have financial problems now since there are no work activities. So, it is understandable if the companies don't give any helps to the employees.
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That's why it's very recommended to always have a side hustle even before the pandemic most employers have been doing this kind of thing to their employees. Just like in wayfair they've laid off over 500 workers just to hire new workers that accepts lower salary.

So these situations does not only occur in casino workers but also other businesses.
Though this is another story but yeah thats inhumane mate because kicking old employees with high salary and changing with another set of low paying people is against the rules of humanity.
and at any cost Employer is the one who must help their own people and not to make them suffer ,because Business is not only relying on proprietor but also with the effort and skills of employees.
indeed the skills of employees can be more value in a company but you must know that old workers who already have a lot of experience can also get out and get a lot of experience from the company and can apply anything that has been gained from the company while still working and for new people then the company will have employees who have the spirit and youth so that they can move quickly and a lot of product is created.
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OK.. I read the replies to my post. I guess I was wrong in asking the employers to credit the salaries. After all, businessmen would be behaving like businessmen. If we look in a legal perspective, then they don't need to pay their employees. So we can't force them to do that. I feel bad about the employees. But there is hardly anything we can do at this point.
It's the free will of employers to provide help for their employees, there's no rules of laws that engaged them to comply in doing this kind works though it's a human desire to help if there's a excess from your own pockets. For now lets just believe that from this ongoing crisis more people will show interest in helping others especially those business owners who have good reserves of money to help the people who works for them.
You have a point, but they are showing no humanity towards their employees. If I were a worker in those casinos who didn't give any help, I might just leave and find another company that would care with their employees.

Giving what they want is very little to the casino because they are earning a huge profit daily. But giving full salary is not good better to provide what they need . Or half of their salary daily in the casino because right now are in the situation that we need need each other.
I hope the decision of the casino owner will help their workers and help them and others too.
Other casino companies were able to help their employees but others can't. Though it's not necessary for them to give help, I just feel bad for the workers because unlike those rich company employers, they don't know the struggle of finding enough money to survive the whole lockdown period.

Offline casino entrepreneurs surely confused about this...
Paying employee salaries is a worker's obligation according to the wage and labor agreement but the current conditions are different. Workers do not work, as usual, not paying a full salary is the best solution imo.
With no work no pay setup employers are not obliged to pay their employees though the situations / crisis force everything stop both employees and employers are not prepared to this situations, helping is also not prohibited and if you are caring with those people who are in need of your help employers will give something if ever they can't provide the whole amount they can still give or provide something just to survived.
Employers are really not obliged to pay their workers when they don't work, but workers didn't even want this to happen. They can still help their employees without harming or risking the fund of the companies. Perhaps they can find other ways to help them. I think a loan would also do.
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That's why it's very recommended to always have a side hustle even before the pandemic most employers have been doing this kind of thing to their employees. Just like in wayfair they've laid off over 500 workers just to hire new workers that accepts lower salary.

So these situations does not only occur in casino workers but also other businesses.
Though this is another story but yeah thats inhumane mate because kicking old employees with high salary and changing with another set of low paying people is against the rules of humanity.
and at any cost Employer is the one who must help their own people and not to make them suffer ,because Business is not only relying on proprietor but also with the effort and skills of employees.
legendary
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Although it's awful that some successful casino owners and management forget to protect and help their employees who helped them to become successful, some casino owners were able to send help and give their employees the salary they need. Perhaps they don't care about their employees' financial struggle because they have a lot of money, and they can survive the whole lockdown with that money.

It's their responsibility to give them a salary even if the business is closed. They should be prepared in times like this, and for sure they have an emergency fund to provide their employees. It's only a simple sacrifice for the employees who have been working for them every day.

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this kind of thing was to be expected that some employers will help their employee and some won't whether we like it or not employers are not obligated or not their responsibility to provide salary if the business is closed. but only a matter of morality if they will help their employees and those who don't help their employees will likely lose a lot of faith from their workers after this crisis over. to be honest, knowing that this is in America. their local government shouldn't have a problem providing necessities to the citizens.
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That's why it's very recommended to always have a side hustle even before the pandemic most employers have been doing this kind of thing to their employees. Just like in wayfair they've laid off over 500 workers just to hire new workers that accepts lower salary.

So these situations does not only occur in casino workers but also other businesses.

Smart people will understand that those who are joining now even in future they would be removed the way others have being removed before them . So either this guys will leave before it and overall when their is no stability in retention somewhere down the line it will have impact how small or big is unknown . That is why loyalty pays for people who are their from long time .
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Offline casino entrepreneurs surely confused about this...
Paying employee salaries is a worker's obligation according to the wage and labor agreement but the current conditions are different. Workers do not work, as usual, not paying a full salary is the best solution imo.
With no work no pay setup employers are not obliged to pay their employees though the situations / crisis force everything stop both employees and employers are not prepared to this situations, helping is also not prohibited and if you are caring with those people who are in need of your help employers will give something if ever they can't provide the whole amount they can still give or provide something just to survived.
For sure that their management didn't foresee this kind of scenario, there are many people who losses their job not only physical casinos. Most of the small entrepreneurs are the one who are really affected because of the pandemic. The government should help their citizens especially those poorest lf the poor. The casinos employees should also received payments from their management in order for them to have money that they can use to spend in necessary things like food and water.
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That's why it's very recommended to always have a side hustle even before the pandemic most employers have been doing this kind of thing to their employees. Just like in wayfair they've laid off over 500 workers just to hire new workers that accepts lower salary.

So these situations does not only occur in casino workers but also other businesses.
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Offline casino entrepreneurs surely confused about this...
Paying employee salaries is a worker's obligation according to the wage and labor agreement but the current conditions are different. Workers do not work, as usual, not paying a full salary is the best solution imo.
With no work no pay setup employers are not obliged to pay their employees though the situations / crisis force everything stop both employees and employers are not prepared to this situations, helping is also not prohibited and if you are caring with those people who are in need of your help employers will give something if ever they can't provide the whole amount they can still give or provide something just to survived.
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Offline casino entrepreneurs surely confused about this...
Paying employee salaries is a worker's obligation according to the wage and labor agreement but the current conditions are different. Workers do not work, as usual, not paying a full salary is the best solution imo.
$1200 amount is not enough for everyone but it is normal for daily food and needs. Maybe governments will restrict the companies to fire the employees due to the recent lockdown but the support should be kept for covering the needs of people. For keeping the minimum impact of the global recession, the workers should look for passive income, unfortunately.
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Offline casino entrepreneurs surely confused about this...
Paying employee salaries is a worker's obligation according to the wage and labor agreement but the current conditions are different. Workers do not work, as usual, not paying a full salary is the best solution imo.
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I've seen so many companies like this, that they value much more the money than their employees, which is pretty ironic. First of, they can't make money that much without their employees, therefore they must treat them as a family, if they want their business to grow more. The problem about rich people is that they don't care anymore about other people, hence, they only care for their selves and money.

The sad truth is, even in situation like this, they always think about their money, how would they grow it even more. They're not thinking that if this pandemic continue to spread even more, they will also get infected and die, guess what, their money won't save them, they can't also take it to their funeral.

It may not be all companies are like on what you are portraying but with my experience, my company is one of those company that is hesitant to extend help to it's employees. Casinos and all other companies are not different during this time of crisis, they are all affected. As i've said on my previous post that it companies would help their employees, this would make them more loyal to them and would help them recover the loses they incurred once this pandemic is over. We all know that this is the government's responsibility but knowing the extent of the problem, the government can't do it alone specially in the developing countries.
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Nobody would have expected that a pandemic like this would hit us so hard so quickly. To be honest, nobody was prepared for such a thing.
It's not just about casinos and it's employees but every industry is facing this troublesome situation.
It depends on the owners if they can afford to pay their employees or not. We can't blame the owners too since they will have to pay the bills and bare the loss anyway. It's good that despite this situation, there are some owners who are paying their employees but only prayers can help the rest.
There's no obligation here by the owners, but the government has.
Employees should ask help to the government instead, in fact US have printed trillions as a budget to face this pandemic, as a tax payer, we have to right to seek help from the government and even these casino owners as they themselves are tax payers as well.

Your right!

Casino owners doesnt really have that obligation but they can at least give out some small help but its still their own choice though.
In times like these then government would really have that responsibility when it comes to support in times of crisis but its quite
understandable that they cant give out support like forever since we know that budget arent really that vast on supporting
millions of had been affected. Budget will surely plummet no matter how big it is.
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Nobody would have expected that a pandemic like this would hit us so hard so quickly. To be honest, nobody was prepared for such a thing.
It's not just about casinos and it's employees but every industry is facing this troublesome situation.
It depends on the owners if they can afford to pay their employees or not. We can't blame the owners too since they will have to pay the bills and bare the loss anyway. It's good that despite this situation, there are some owners who are paying their employees but only prayers can help the rest.
There's no obligation here by the owners, but the government has.
Employees should ask help to the government instead, in fact US have printed trillions as a budget to face this pandemic, as a tax payer, we have to right to seek help from the government and even these casino owners as they themselves are tax payers as well.


Good point. I agree with you at some parts, but let me add a bit. In this times of calamities, most of the non-essential establishments were closed and essential establishments were prioritized to be maintained open. Casino is one of those non-essential establishment, hence during the span time of community quarantine and lockdown, they won't also generate income.

Work from home policy was suggested to every company, but this can't be applied to casino enterprises. Therefore, their employees won't have salary the entire lockdown. Yes, the owners technically have no obligations to their employees not being able to work during this pandemic, that's why they also don't have the responsibility to shoulder their salaries. However, compassion over their employees could be applied. They could use some of their fund (especially those big time casinos) to give their employees some money just to get by. They could also give the money allotted for Chirstmas bonus earlier so they won't have to shoulder the salary technically speaking.

But I must say, the most responsible during this time to give the people the money they need is the government since they have billions of fund allocatted especially in times of crisis. Yes, you're definitely right that we have all the right to ask for help since everyone of us are tax payers. We fund whatever projects they have, therefore they must use these to protect us. They are responsible to give relief goods as well as cash aids to their constituents so these people, especially no work, no pay, could survive.
I heard that government is going to pay half of the salary for every worker and the remaining should be paid by companies, not sure is this legit or not but this seems good idea and people can spread the bare value here.
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Nobody would have expected that a pandemic like this would hit us so hard so quickly. To be honest, nobody was prepared for such a thing.
It's not just about casinos and it's employees but every industry is facing this troublesome situation.
It depends on the owners if they can afford to pay their employees or not. We can't blame the owners too since they will have to pay the bills and bare the loss anyway. It's good that despite this situation, there are some owners who are paying their employees but only prayers can help the rest.
There's no obligation here by the owners, but the government has.
Employees should ask help to the government instead, in fact US have printed trillions as a budget to face this pandemic, as a tax payer, we have to right to seek help from the government and even these casino owners as they themselves are tax payers as well.


Good point. I agree with you at some parts, but let me add a bit. In this times of calamities, most of the non-essential establishments were closed and essential establishments were prioritized to be maintained open. Casino is one of those non-essential establishment, hence during the span time of community quarantine and lockdown, they won't also generate income.

Work from home policy was suggested to every company, but this can't be applied to casino enterprises. Therefore, their employees won't have salary the entire lockdown. Yes, the owners technically have no obligations to their employees not being able to work during this pandemic, that's why they also don't have the responsibility to shoulder their salaries. However, compassion over their employees could be applied. They could use some of their fund (especially those big time casinos) to give their employees some money just to get by. They could also give the money allotted for Chirstmas bonus earlier so they won't have to shoulder the salary technically speaking.

But I must say, the most responsible during this time to give the people the money they need is the government since they have billions of fund allocatted especially in times of crisis. Yes, you're definitely right that we have all the right to ask for help since everyone of us are tax payers. We fund whatever projects they have, therefore they must use these to protect us. They are responsible to give relief goods as well as cash aids to their constituents so these people, especially no work, no pay, could survive.
sr. member
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I've seen so many companies like this, that they value much more the money than their employees, which is pretty ironic. First of, they can't make money that much without their employees, therefore they must treat them as a family, if they want their business to grow more. The problem about rich people is that they don't care anymore about other people, hence, they only care for their selves and money.

The sad truth is, even in situation like this, they always think about their money, how would they grow it even more. They're not thinking that if this pandemic continue to spread even more, they will also get infected and die, guess what, their money won't save them, they can't also take it to their funeral.
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Workers work hard all year long and the owners make a lot of money all year long. At this moment of danger, all the factory/Casino owners have to help the workers with some money. Too many workers have lost their jobs, and factory/Casino owners have left without paying them, It should not be done at all.
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People around the world now are crying for help and this is not the Government,Employers nor Employees fault this is a Crisis and everyone should bare with this,we need to at least tighten our Belts for a while.

we must not live like what our normal ways because this will not save us from Hell.let us just spend smaller than half of our usual days.
the problem is People tend to just ask for help but don't just help their self.

But of course we Know casinos that has a tons of money inside and it is simple for them to help thousand employees if they want.
Yeah most of the time we just spend our money daily we just have a bad habit of spending our money and have the thinking that we are still going to earn soon and not even considering to invest or save money for the future, and then crisis like this a pandemic virus arrived so were like no jobs and earnings at all now you're asking for a salary because you don't even save for this moment.

I'm not saying all of them are irresponsible there are still people that just no saving because they have children or family. For sure the casino might consider giving help but for sure that would not be enough to sustain them.
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Nobody would have expected that a pandemic like this would hit us so hard so quickly. To be honest, nobody was prepared for such a thing.
It's not just about casinos and it's employees but every industry is facing this troublesome situation.
It depends on the owners if they can afford to pay their employees or not. We can't blame the owners too since they will have to pay the bills and bare the loss anyway. It's good that despite this situation, there are some owners who are paying their employees but only prayers can help the rest.
There's no obligation here by the owners, but the government has.
Employees should ask help to the government instead, in fact US have printed trillions as a budget to face this pandemic, as a tax payer, we have to right to seek help from the government and even these casino owners as they themselves are tax payers as well.
Every government is doing its job for its citizen, as much as they can, there are just countries that is hardly unattainable due to some facts. I see nothing wrong with employees asking for consideration with their company to provide them something useful in times like this like cash assistance, food and water and company owner should consider them too not only as their worker but as a human too. We are all tax payers, every one should be viewed equally by the government but you cannot take the fact that there are people who is paying more tax than somebody.
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Nobody would have expected that a pandemic like this would hit us so hard so quickly. To be honest, nobody was prepared for such a thing.
It's not just about casinos and it's employees but every industry is facing this troublesome situation.
It depends on the owners if they can afford to pay their employees or not. We can't blame the owners too since they will have to pay the bills and bare the loss anyway. It's good that despite this situation, there are some owners who are paying their employees but only prayers can help the rest.
There's no obligation here by the owners, but the government has.
Employees should ask help to the government instead, in fact US have printed trillions as a budget to face this pandemic, as a tax payer, we have to right to seek help from the government and even these casino owners as they themselves are tax payers as well.
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