Topic: CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded NVIDIA Maxwell / Pascal kernels. - page 924. (Read 2347659 times)

THanks so much, This is really handy

How to show gpu temp and fan speed in output. Can't find the flag in readme, but saw it at scryptr pic ?

I could buy it, but my quark kernals are more profitable at the moment.

unfortunately - this is the way it works as a reality ...

i may be wrong about the 'community' - but im certainly not wrong about the good people that DO - and not complain ... the ones that say tanx - in their own way - whatever that may be ...

sad but true - there will always be the leechers and complainers ... but there will always be the flipside - and those that want to help ...

unfortunately at this stage - it seems the public / private miner situation is the way to go ...

im still pushing forward with what little i can do on my end ... and any help that i can get - to give help to the devs will be appreciated ( im talking about coding and expertise and ideas and advice ) ...

my way of saying tanx for all your work - is building a foundation that i ( and hopefully most ) will use as ONE of the avenues to donate ...

its not the best - but its something ... and its only the beginning ...

#crysx

i agree with the parasitic ecosystem .. and also agree that mining ( or donating in any other way ) to a singular dev 'may' not be the best way of doing this - rather should be an OPTION ... so good point ...

but ive already seen that coming ... which is why ive been working on the new server for donation ... its a rotational mining system ...

it mines ( via algo ) for a limited time to one dev and moves on for the same amount of time to another and so on ...

this means that all the devs have mining time 24 / 7 ... the dilemma here is - which devs are collaborating with who? ... or do we do a wheeling system for all devs that are on the list ( which i think is an unfair way ) ... or do we give the community the choice of devs they want to donate hash to - on an individual level - and they create their own dev list to donate to ... or do we leave it to the devs to decide which list of devs get listed together? ...

there are many aspects to this - and one that has been considered very carefully ... looking at all options ...

btw - i wasnt kidding about the cards ... i was merely stipulating that if the possibility arose to do so - would that be a viable option ...

you seem to like that option ... am i correct? ...

djm34 - i dont pose a question unless i have a motive behind it ... products are not a 'too good to be true' scenario because they too are in the plans of the project i have been working on ...

my history is long and my experience is dense ... part of which - i owned three retail stores and a wholesale distribution ( and service ) center for computer products - including cabling - components - parts ...

its all gone now ( for personal reasons ) - but the contacts are all still there ... so the plans are there to integrate many things into this project of mine ... all under the granite umbrella ..

the modules for this project are coming together - but slowly ... after all - i can only do so much at a time ...

the point is - if product is what would incentivise you and other devs ... then maybe thats the way to go ... if btc is - then that is another way ... if that is what it takes - then that is an option we need to look at ...

#crysx

Emphasis mine. Sadly, that is just the way it is (not all miners, but certainly the majority).

No t-nelson. The way a donation works, is that I am the one saying: Thank you, just saying it through bits and bytes of magic internet money (I think there was even an altcoin by this name  ). The more developers contribute, the more fun and toys for all of us miners with Nivida cards (sidenote: I'm not even using this fork or ever solo'ing).

You do have my number already, right? 

oh... crowdfunding... like having the card in 2 years...  
I think I misinterpreted what you were saying, I thought you wanted to offer us a card... (yeah... that was too good to be true)
also considering the size of your farm this would clearly make sense (3 digits gpu farm) ... but hey never mind...  

Actually your problem with funding us, is that you want to put all the dev in competition like for your mining donation system
directed at some dev rather than other one (while new development usually comes from integrating stuff, developed by others... )
So as long as you will put dev in competition, then there is no chance for us to collaborate... because again I end up with that question, why would I release new stuff if only sp gets anything  (when he gets anything... ) for the time I spent...

imo, much closer to a parasitic ecosystem than a symbiosis one...

hmmm - ok ...

and would that be a nice incentive for all devs? ... ( sp? pallas? tnelson? wolf0? others i havent mentioned? ) ...

if so - could we all crowdfund to get these products for these optimizations? ... ie - we all pitch in for the next big optimizations ...

if not product - crowdfund in btc so you can buy the products in your own country? ...

would that be incentive enough? ...

#crysx

I mean for one deal it could be a way (as long as I don't have to pay for the shipping and the card hasn't been beaten to death), price tag for a 980ti is around 3~4btc
so it sounds like a rather decent offer... (not like the '0.001btc' beer, which actually doesn't even buy a beer in my country  )

people wants us to optimize for their cards, but usually we still have to buy the card ourselves... so...

i dont understand djm34 ...

does this mean you want a 980ti for your optimized code? ... ...

or are you saying that private work is the way to go? ...

edit - i responded before you finished the edit ... ...

so product swap would be a good way? ... really? ...

#crysx

I'd be happy to receive one (you would get my newer kernels)

so what is the result of all this? ...

all the miners that come out will be far from 'good'? ... or just good and the private ones better ( which is the case now ) ? ...

im curious as to whether there is a valid way to put more incentive in the hands of the devs - or many ways to ...

obviously selling private miners is one way - and making sure the miners are always at least 3 steps ahead of the public ones ...

but are there any ways that you would work with? ...

and no - its not always about making money ... i know many people who have done things like this and worked very hard for the sheer pleasure of it - the accomplishment of the task at hand - as it were ...

but i must admit - the vast majority of reasons behind any of the work is for money ... im just saying its not always - and not all of us are driven that way ...

#crysx

then you are a fool (sorry to say...)  
and a big one for not realizing that your releasing model is flawed and will never get you any money...

fun fact: satisfying your fan base goes in total opposite direction with making money

ps: may-be I should start selling my kernel to you 

hmm... it just shows that making 3 releases per day and begging for donation for each of them is kind of stupid...
and seriously what kind of donation are you really expecting for a 50khash/s increase (what advertise each of your release, I let you do the proper math for that...)

At some point you'll get to your sense and start releasing only when you have a significant increase and have tested your release. (Releasing untested broken crap is not acceptable even at an amateurish level... and not checking properly what you copy and paste from my release and asking other to fix it for you either (which is the main reason why you got broken solo mining  )

Of course, sharing something with public will never give you as much money as selling it private, especially if it is a "money making machine".

And making improvements for public doesn't benefit public so much. The fact almost everyone is forgetting that once some coder releases 2x speedup of certain algorithm, then global hashrate will go up by 2x thus making your profit as a miner (almost) the same as before. The only benefit for all miners is to slightly reduce the gap between the ones using public miners and the ones using private faster miners.

Therefore, global interest of all miners to support developers doing open optimizations is very low, as they gain almost nothing from all these improvements.

If I was specialized for GPU optimizations, I would sell them in private as well. After all, we are all here because of money making, aren't we?

there is no argument there sp ... that is completely fair ... and to be honest - completely up to you ... you ( collectively ) are the devs and its all your own work - you can do what you want with it ...

what im asking is what can we do to get more people in the community to donate and share more of their btc and hashtime? ...

i ( and many others ) will help with what that 'thing' or number of 'things' that need to be done ...

i just need more ideas ...

need to think more about what can be done ...

#crysx

I have spent a year on this in my sparetime to learn how to program the GPU. Wolf0 has been modding kernals since 2013. He started opensource, and then found out he could make a living out of it and stopped sharing..  
I will continue as before, release some small improvements to the public and keep some for myself. But one day I might quit my job as a C# programmer and do this fulltime..

it is ... and much tanx for that ...

but i see the issue AND am trying to do something about it ... same with quite a few others in the community ...

im asking these questions because they are questions that will determine the future of what will be the donation system ...

is this not a step forward to putting more money in devs pockets? ... or have some other sort of incentive? ...

is it all about the btc? ... or is there another motive? ... i would like ot know because if there is something WE can do about it - WE will ...

i come from a corporate environment - and the majority of the corporates backstab and underhand to get what they need ... this is NOT corporate ... and if there is a way of making it a more viable environment for you ( devs ) for the community as a whole - then we need to find a way ... admittedly - 0.02btc is a small amount - but its probably what the donors had to give ...

i can give that a few hours of mining with thefarm ( and i have many a time ) - and if everyone mined together - we would see that sort of figure in a few minutes ...

what im saying is that without some idea of what needs to be done - i ( and those that are the doers - donors and other devs alike ) are shooting in the dark as to what can be done to improve the situation ...

is there a better way? .. if so - what? ...

there is only so much i can do sp - especially on the 'open market' to help ...

unless we pay privately for a dev to maximize the kernel proficiency - and that would mean no one wins but the dev and the farm involved ...

if thats the way things are moving - then thats what is going to happen ...

what can be done to entice more donations? ...

maybe send you another 980ti as a donation? ... maybe to all the devs? ... ...

#crysx

750ti: 3MHASH
960: 4,7MHASH
970: 8.1MHASH
980: 10MHASH
980ti: 12.8MHASH

The quark  hashrate rate is going up isn't it? Little bit bether in every release.
I have got 0.02BTC in donations for release 69, and DJM34 is complaining.