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Topic: CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded NVIDIA Maxwell / Pascal kernels. - page 956. (Read 2347664 times)

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New 1.5.66 version downloaded from https://github.com/sp-hash/ccminer/releases/download/1.5.66/release66.7z is showing 1.5.65 (ccminer.exe -V)...
legendary
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i think its time to step up to a 980ti and have a look at how this thing works .. is it better? ...  and im not asking about the hashrate Tongue ...
#crysx

Looking at the BIOS of that card it has an absolute maximum of 366W power consumption limit if I'm reading it correctly which aligns perfectly with a techpowerup review.
Of course that's with some crazy synthetic test like FurMark and the usual peak consumption is about 300W. But even that is a lot.

I think these bigger cards are all about scaling; they get somewhat inefficient hash per watt at full speed but get pretty great if you decrease the power target like I found with the 970 a while back (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11636995).
With downvolting it could be much more significant but I haven't tried it. So on one hand low profit margins warrants efficiency with lower power target but then the initial card price is too much but from another point of view if the profit margins were to increase in the future pushing the cards to hash as fast as they can would be more profitable. Also, different prices; in my case with the prices I'm presented with it doesn't worth it for me to go for anything above 970s.

Yup you can gain efficiency by lowering the TDP slider. However you lose hashrate and clockspeed doing it to the point where it's not even worth buying the bigger cards anymore. Running a 970 at 960 speeds is kinda pointless.

I wouldn't use wood near any electronic equipment, unless the insurance agent is a friend of yours ;-)
(In event of fire, regardless how much care you took, the insurance will not pay if they know you used wood)

To each his own I guess but I'm absolutely confident the wood wouldn't make any difference that aluminum would in case of major failure.

Yeah I use wood too. Wood has a pretty high point of catching fire. It's a great insulator against electricity and heat up till that point.
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legendary
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I know - but it's not good enough. There's two or three different methods I have thought of to optimize this - looks like this one is just all right.
280X is doing in excess of 7.6MH/s.
My 970 is doing 9.85MHASH with the opensource kernal. And the 980 around 12 I think. Not tested. And I have removed the shfl instruction from the djm34's implementation, so you can try to convert it to opencl. he-he
I don't need ideas for improvements - I've got PLENTY to try. I need more time and energy lol

yes, I think DJM34 did a full rewrite to reach the number he has now. I am only increasing the hashrate in small steps.
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legendary
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Another binary:

- Faster lyra2v2 on gtx 750ti (+5%)
- Faster quark. (Pallas)
- Fixed crash in the whirlpoolx algo on linux(T Nelson)
- Other stability fixes by T Nelson.
- Fixed broken hash in cuda 7.0 (x11) (but cuda 7 is slower)

1.5.66(sp-MOD) is available here: (07-09-2015)

https://github.com/sp-hash/ccminer/releases/

The sourcecode is available here:

https://github.com/sp-hash/ccminer
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I know - but it's not good enough. There's two or three different methods I have thought of to optimize this - looks like this one is just all right.
280X is doing in excess of 7.6MH/s.

My 970 is doing 9.85MHASH with the opensource kernal. And the 980 around 12 I think. Not tested. And I have removed the shfl instruction from the djm34's implementation, so you can try to convert it to opencl. he-he

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legendary
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The 980ti is doing 15.7 MHASH with the opensource kernal. core@1270 mhz mem 1600
980Ti? Well, I was going to compare 290X to 980, but since I recently flashed my Fury to unlock the extra CUs (nothing wrong with them, lucky me) - I've got an air-cooled Fury X to compare with 980Ti.
It does a little over 15.5MH/s peak, but can fluctuate to around 15.2MH/s - I'll leave Freya running to get a nice average.

Pretty good when the opensource kernal is doing 4MHASH on the r9 280x
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- Put a big dumb house fan in front of it and blow on the entire rig - simple, efficient, really ugly

This is what the scrypt miners did with their 6x 280x rigs.. X11,quark and lyra2v2 use less memory and power, so not so much heat is generated.
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legendary
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Djm34 posted this pic:

His private kernal is doing 15,4MHASH on the 980


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legendary
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The 980ti is doing 15.7 MHASH with the opensource kernal. core@1270 mhz mem 1600
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legendary
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I have submitted now. I was unable to find the right launch config for the 970, so this optimalization is just for the 750ti.

With tpb52=9  and the 50 kernal the 970  was just abit slower. But I had to case in the code and run seperate code for compute 52 devices.
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Hijacking SP_'s thread again (sorry), but you guys started it ;-)

I just finished filling my rig up with 750Tis (Gigabyte, 4 windforce OC, 2 LP) and I'm starting to see interesting heat patterns: the cards on the left suck air from the back of their neighbor and are significantly hotter. I can guess which card is where just by looking at the temperatures and fan speeds... The windforce are handling it like champs (hottest at 57°C), but the LP are struggling (hottest at 68°). I put some case fans I had laying around on top of the cards, which brought them to 50/60, but I'd like a cleaner solution.

I'm contemplating 3 options and I'd like your input on which you think is the best one, or even a different one:
- Build a larger rig so I can spread the cards more (3cm between cards on the current one) - not sure it would change much: the cards don't dissipate enough to create a real convection movement between them
- Put a big dumb house fan in front of it and blow on the entire rig - simple, efficient, really ugly
- Encase the rig and control the air movement by letting air enter at the bottom and extracting it at the top with standard computer fans (I'm thinking 5*140mm, directly above the cards) - interesting from an engineering standpoint, would even allow me to filter the intakes to limit dust buildup. But aerodynamics are hard, especially when there's a big mess of cables in the middle...

What do you think?
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I have a 200KHASH lyra improvement ready for the 750ti. (+5%)
but it is slower on the 970. Need to tweak it some more
Great!
If i can help, just ask.

In the optimalization i use half of the registers and more level1 cache. Will submit soon.
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I have a 200KHASH lyra improvement ready for the 750ti. (+5%)

but it is slower on the 970. Need to tweak it some more

Great!
If i can help, just ask.
legendary
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I saw couple of guys mentioned here PCIe port multipliers.
Does anybody have a first hand experience with them?
I tried this one: http://www.amazon.com/PCI-E-Express-Port-Riser-Switch/dp/B00TR01QJ8
and it didn't work for me (Win8.1x64 ASRock Fatal1ty Z87 Killer 7xPCIe) so I ended up returning the switch/port-multiplier.
The goal was to have a 10x GPU miner but I had to settle with a 7x GPU one.

I have one, it is a 1x PCIe slot to 4x 1x PCIe slot multiplier.  It worked in one of my motherboards.  I was able to mine script with CudaMiner and a GTX 520 (21kh/s) in the motherboard, and a GTX 550ti (90kh/s) and a 9800+ GTX (14kh/s) on the multiplier.  Unfortunately, I have not been able to get any cards of the 700 series to work with it, nor any AMD cards.  I may experiment some more, but it was sent with no documentation, and I have small expectations.  The adapter that you linked appears to be the same model that I have, or very similar.

If you look, there is a manufacturer of these items that tailored their product specifically for GPUs and mining.  The price, however, is much higher.

--scryptr
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I have a 200KHASH lyra improvement ready for the 750ti. (+5%)

but it is slower on the 970. Need to tweak it some more
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I saw couple of guys mentioned here PCIe port multipliers.
Does anybody have a first hand experience with them?
I tried this one: http://www.amazon.com/PCI-E-Express-Port-Riser-Switch/dp/B00TR01QJ8
and it didn't work for me (Win8.1x64 ASRock Fatal1ty Z87 Killer 7xPCIe) so I ended up returning the switch/port-multiplier.
The goal was to have a 10x GPU miner but I had to settle with a 7x GPU one.
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the reason i dont use them is purely because there have been a LOT of issues with these boards and the onboard power connection ...
through various forums ( uncluding the asrock one - which doesnt have much to do with the mining arena any longer ) the boards have been brought up as being a way of warming your house by means of fire rather than hot air ... apparently that if the sockets and cables supply dont get the power they require for any reason - they ignite in the worse cases ... the least cases ( which is the common one ) is that they burnout your cards or the board itself ...
If yours are running well - then kudos mate Smiley ...

If you use this board with 6 non powered risers, it's very important to blug in the extra 2 power slots I marked in the picture. It can also be good to add a couple of cards with a 6pin power connector.

I would not use unpowered risers in any case. There's just no good reason to run 450W through the MB
if it can be avoided.

I haven't found a power spec on molex connectors but the adapters that came with my GPU mapped
2 molex connectors to 1 8 pin PCIe power connector. 2 extra molex connectors on the MB to power 6
slots just doesn't seem adequate.

MOLEX to PCIe ADAPTER--

If you have anything bigger than a 750ti, the 2-MOLEX to 1-PCIe adapters are dangerous.  I used one to power an AMD 280x and it melted.       --scryptr
and make sure it is a "one rail" psu with only one line otherwise cable/power usage won't be sufficient... (molex/sata are mostly to power hdd/fans...)
legendary
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the reason i dont use them is purely because there have been a LOT of issues with these boards and the onboard power connection ...
through various forums ( uncluding the asrock one - which doesnt have much to do with the mining arena any longer ) the boards have been brought up as being a way of warming your house by means of fire rather than hot air ... apparently that if the sockets and cables supply dont get the power they require for any reason - they ignite in the worse cases ... the least cases ( which is the common one ) is that they burnout your cards or the board itself ...
If yours are running well - then kudos mate Smiley ...

If you use this board with 6 non powered risers, it's very important to blug in the extra 2 power slots I marked in the picture. It can also be good to add a couple of cards with a 6pin power connector.

I would not use unpowered risers in any case. There's just no good reason to run 450W through the MB
if it can be avoided.

I haven't found a power spec on molex connectors but the adapters that came with my GPU mapped
2 molex connectors to 1 8 pin PCIe power connector. 2 extra molex connectors on the MB to power 6
slots just doesn't seem adequate.

MOLEX to PCIe ADAPTER--

If you have anything bigger than a 750ti, the 2-MOLEX to 1-PCIe adapters are dangerous.  I used one to power an AMD 280x and it melted.       --scryptr
legendary
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the reason i dont use them is purely because there have been a LOT of issues with these boards and the onboard power connection ...
through various forums ( uncluding the asrock one - which doesnt have much to do with the mining arena any longer ) the boards have been brought up as being a way of warming your house by means of fire rather than hot air ... apparently that if the sockets and cables supply dont get the power they require for any reason - they ignite in the worse cases ... the least cases ( which is the common one ) is that they burnout your cards or the board itself ...
If yours are running well - then kudos mate Smiley ...

If you use this board with 6 non powered risers, it's very important to blug in the extra 2 power slots I marked in the picture. It can also be good to add a couple of cards with a 6pin power connector.

I would not use unpowered risers in any case. There's just no good reason to run 450W through the MB
if it can be avoided.

I haven't found a power spec on molex connectors but the adapters that came with my GPU mapped
2 molex connectors to 1 8 pin PCIe power connector. 2 extra molex connectors on the MB to power 6
slots just doesn't seem adequate.
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i think its time to step up to a 980ti and have a look at how this thing works .. is it better? ...  and im not asking about the hashrate Tongue ...
#crysx

I am happy with my card but it has 2 8 pin pci power connectors and can draw as much as 250-300W. Quark is hashing at 26,7 and x11 13 Mhash.

thats nice ... but the draw seems to be huge ...

i have been looking at the gigabyte g1 gaming card ... its a beast ...

http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5472#ov ...

factory oc with BETTER cooling - though the twin 8pin connector will be an issue with the psu selection ... maybe need to redesign the frame specifically for this card - as it will take two large 1500W psu ...

big issue with this is that to buy 6 of these cards in one hit is a wallet suicide - when each card sells here at almost $1200.00AUD ...

BUT - the one machine would generate more hashrate than 3 / 4 of thefarms hashrate ...

ill have to decide what needs to be done soon ... i dont want to buy one card at a time - so that doesnt leave me with many options ...

see what happens - the power draw is the main conern here ...

tanx ...

#crysx


I went with the reference design, as that gives the best power draw. Even the reference ACX's have 1 6-pin and 1 8-pin pci-e connector.

One thing I've learnt is the extra juice doesn't really help at all.

I'm doing 30 mh/s on one of my ti's and 29 mh/s on the other (Quark). 1481 Mhz and 1477 Mhz respectively.
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