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legendary
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@scryptr, are you saying it's still better to solomine?

VTC MINING--

It is best to solomine if you have the hash power and the patience to await irregular payout times.  Mining VTC at a reliable pool will cost 1% or 2% for pool maintenance, but will payout on a regular basis.

Both mining efforts currently pay better than 0.50 BTC per Gh/s per day.  VTC mining at 100Mh/s will net about 300 VTC/day, and the have a value of .066 BTC at today's market rates.  That is better than a 0.05 BTC payout for the same hash rate on multipool.  Mining at a different hash rate is proportional, and I see this validated in my VTC earnings.

I mine at GMC, without problems that have been mentioned in this thread.       --scryptr
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legendary
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Team Black developer

Would you care to explain? What's wrong with arbitrage?

I would agree that renting on Nicehash hasn't been attractive lately but that just means that mining is. Nicehash is also
the only place you can mine and know exactly what you will be paid. The are no issues with luck, orphans, exchange risk, etc.

Edit: Mining is attractive on some algos, but not lyra2v2. This would seem a good opportunity for arbitrage (this is
essentially what SP pointed out) but the volume is too low for any real price competition among renters.

It pushes competition out of the market. That's why Neoscrypt is always about 50% below what you can get from mining the coins or using a real multipool.
Not everyone has the software, it's in a select few hands. It's not widespread, there is essentially no competition for a arbitrage bot. Even with the Nicehash bot that is publicly available it's not tweakable enough for the average person to use and it's relatively useless. So anyone that actually tries to use Nicehash eventually gets discouraged and stops using it, it just leaves the handful of arbitrage bots that keep the price artificially low.
Only exception to that is fixed orders.

I tried Nicehash once. Mined qubit. The profit on the coin I mined was around 1btc/ghash, and nicehash was only renting out for 0.2BTC.
I placed an order, and a bot came.
I placed a new order, and a bot came.
...
pushed the price to 0.7BTC and a bot came.

Then I just left my orders on the site, and some days/weeks later when the profit was gone, I could mine for 0.7BTC/GHASH and my return was around 0.3BTC /GHASH (a loss of arounc 0.4BTC/GHASH)

legendary
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Merit: 1024

After 30 hours of mining I've got around 16($0.96) Vertcoins a day per 750ti (recalculated to 24h average))   (p2pool.pl with --diff 2

Nicehash is currently paying around $0.41 per 750ti per day.

So someone is renting your hashrate and make money... Smiley


Yeah, Nicehash has arbitrage bots that control everything. You can't rent hash there and make money unless you do fixed rentals and a lot of algos don't have that. You start ratcheting up the price, they do too, until it reaches maximum, then they resest back down to the bottom, do it all over again.

Thats why Nicehash is one of the last places you want to sell your hashrate if you can avoid it. It's basically the trash bin for mining as you're feeding an entirely different swarm of bots. I'm pretty sure it'd be a lot more competitive if they made it so you couldn't automate transactions.

Would you care to explain? What's wrong with arbitrage?

I would agree that renting on Nicehash hasn't been attractive lately but that just means that mining is. Nicehash is also
the only place you can mine and know exactly what you will be paid. The are no issues with luck, orphans, exchange risk, etc.

Edit: Mining is attractive on some algos, but not lyra2v2. This would seem a good opportunity for arbitrage (this is
essentially what SP pointed out) but the volume is too low for any real price competition among renters.

It pushes competition out of the market. That's why Neoscrypt is always about 50% below what you can get from mining the coins or using a real multipool.

Not everyone has the software, it's in a select few hands. It's not widespread, there is essentially no competition for a arbitrage bot. Even with the Nicehash bot that is publicly available it's not tweakable enough for the average person to use and it's relatively useless. So anyone that actually tries to use Nicehash eventually gets discouraged and stops using it, it just leaves the handful of arbitrage bots that keep the price artificially low.

Only exception to that is fixed orders.
sr. member
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@scryptr, are you saying it's still better to solomine?
legendary
Activity: 1797
Merit: 1028
VTC MATH--

If I had 100Mh/s hashing power, at the current difficulty (329), I could earn about 305 VTC/day.  This is worth about 0.064 BTC for a days hashing.  Numbers are from the CoinWarz calculator, and match, proportionally, my current VTC payout.

NiceHash is paying ~0.50 BTC/Gh/s per day for mining VTC on their site.  100Mh/s is 1/10 of 1Gh/s, so a miner would earn about .0.050 BTC/day hashing away for a BTC payout.

~0.50 BTC/GH/s per day is the BEST PAYING algo on Nicehash at the moment.  For Cuda miners, VTC beats Quark, because 0.29BTC/Gh/s per day for a 750ti mining at 6.5Mh/s winds up paying less than 0.50/BTC/Gh/s than a 750ti mining VTC at 4.4Mh/s.  Or, look at the math:

        0.29 * 6.5 Mh/s is equal to X * 4.4 Mh/s 
       .29*6.5  =  X *4.4

rearrange:
       
       X= (.29*6.5)/4.4
       X= .428

Or, any price better than 0.428 BTC/Gh/s per day for VTC is the best payout for CUDA hashing rates.  But, mining for VTC will give the miner a better payout per VTC market value today, about 0.064 BTC per 100Mh/s after exchanging the vertcoin at .00022 BTC per VTC.

I tried mining on NiceHash just now, and will be returning to GMC after I post this.  I DID have to use the "--diff 2" command flag to get proper poolside rates on NiceHash.  And, I don't have 100Mh/s of hashing power in my rigs, I just picked a round number.       --scryptr

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legendary
Activity: 2954
Merit: 1087
Team Black developer
I have tested p2pool.pl. It took many hours to reach the correct hashrate, and payouts are small. The miner pool is changing the difficulty all the time and it leads to lost hashes. reject rate is pretty high.. I think solomining is the best option here.
predicted payout 1 750ti:
$1.43 per day for one 750ti @ 4.3 MHASH
actual payout: (8 hours mining (24h payout is estimated)
$0.3 per day
After 30 hours of mining I've got around 16($0.96) Vertcoins a day per 750ti (recalculated to 24h average))   (p2pool.pl with --diff 2
Nicehash is currently paying around $0.41 per 750ti per day.
So someone is renting your hashrate and make money... Smiley
Note that the difficulty has raised from around 230 to 282 (+10.9%) in 24 hours and the next payouts will be smaller.

The vertcoin diff is now 330 and the total Net hashrate is 9.76 GHASH

I've mined 188 Vertcoins in 58 hours. (6 750ti's) (25MHASH) around $11

13,42 Vertcoins's per 750ti per day the profit is dropping
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legendary
Activity: 2954
Merit: 1087
Team Black developer
Hello sp
how can I log to syslog like the previous miners? -S does not work --syslog does not work Sad
thanks

use ccminer ...... and >das.log

to log the output to file
legendary
Activity: 1797
Merit: 1028
would it be technically possible to mine eth with ccminer (or sgminer for the matter)?
looks to be very profitable and VTC diff is going higher and higher (while price is stable).

ETH COIN--

There is a lot of hype behind this coin.  The link for the official bitcoin thread is here:

          https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-ethereum-welcome-to-the-beginning-428589

The coin should be worth more in the near future.  Whether it will stabilize at a higher value is speculation.  I am downloading the blockchain to the wallet right now, and will try the CUDA miner that was developed for the coin, v 1.0, pre-compiled.  The source code is available on github, a coder like yourself might improve on that work.

The Crypto-Coin Mining Blog has posted a how-to that is more clear than other descriptions.  The link was posted in this thread at least twice today.       --scryptr

sr. member
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You need to add -diff 2 to double the hashrate on nicehash. I could hardcode it in the miner, but then my fork will have a different setting than the official miner from Djm34
thank you sp, it looks better now Smiley
sr. member
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GTX 960 HASH RATE--

I get 6Mh/s on my GTX 960 with a mild overclock (+140/+280); I mine on Give-Me-Coins.com (GMC).  My GTX 960 pulls in about 30 coins a day mining by itself on GMC.  Local and pool hashrates agree with no --diff setting.

--scryptr
this is the cheapest gtx960 i've found, it's a gigabyte at 1059 mhz (overclocking makes it unstable), intensity is at default...
legendary
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I minded a few Eth blocks but abandoned it after the dump and looking at it again the same cudaminer fork with the same config is only doing ~1.7 mh/s instead of 8.1 mhs per 750 Ti on all of my machines. I'm completely perplexed.
do you know where is that fork, can't find anything... they dumped all internet in their release...
hero member
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Hello sp
how can I log to syslog like the previous miners? -S does not work --syslog does not work Sad
thanks
sr. member
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Merit: 250
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I minded a few Eth blocks but abandoned it after the dump and looking at it again the same cudaminer fork with the same config is only doing ~1.7 mh/s instead of 8.1 mhs per 750 Ti on all of my machines. I'm completely perplexed.
{quote from ETH forum:
salvas Posts: 1Member ✭
 5:37PM
750ti win7,64 benchmark 8mh but the pool or solo i have only 1,7mh why.}

I am inclined to ETH if I could get 8MH/s.
sr. member
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wow. just got home and checked the verter pool stats, and am horrified.  With 6x 750ti each hashing around 4200 kH/s, the pool reported a max total hash for me of around one card!  Only 10 coins today!  Gonna try solo for a while
legendary
Activity: 1797
Merit: 1028
what a waste...  Huh

GTX 960 HASH RATE--

I get 6Mh/s on my GTX 960 with a mild overclock (+140/+280); I mine on Give-Me-Coins.com (GMC).  My GTX 960 pulls in about 30 coins a day mining by itself on GMC.  Local and pool hashrates agree with no --diff setting.

--scryptr
My 750 Ti's pull in roughly 4Mh/s (ccminer side, so ~2MH/s nicehash side) without overclock (intensity 19.4, not sure what the default is... 15? is that the same as 960?  must be reading the code wrong?). Might want to play with intensities, along with overclock.

VTC INTENSITY--

I can't go over "-i 19" on my rigs.  If I use XIntensity, the top is about "-X 31" and it doesn't perform as well as an Intensity of "-i 19".  My 750ti cards get about 4.4Mh/s, my 960 cards about 5.9-6Mh/s, and my 970 cards about 8.9Mh/s.  Most of my cards run under Linux, so I can't easily overclock them.  Others get 10Mh/s on a 970.

--scryptr
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legendary
Activity: 2954
Merit: 1087
Team Black developer


what a waste...  Huh

You need to add -diff 2 to double the hashrate on nicehash. I could hardcode it in the miner, but then my fork will have a different setting than the official miner from Djm34
member
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what a waste...  Huh

GTX 960 HASH RATE--

I get 6Mh/s on my GTX 960 with a mild overclock (+140/+280); I mine on Give-Me-Coins.com (GMC).  My GTX 960 pulls in about 30 coins a day mining by itself on GMC.  Local and pool hashrates agree with no --diff setting.

--scryptr
My 750 Ti's pull in roughly 4Mh/s (ccminer side, so ~2MH/s nicehash side) without overclock (intensity 19.4, not sure what the default is... 15? is that the same as 960?  must be reading the code wrong?). Might want to play with intensities, along with overclock.
legendary
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Merit: 1051
ICO? Not even once.
I minded a few Eth blocks but abandoned it after the dump and looking at it again the same cudaminer fork with the same config is only doing ~1.7 mh/s instead of 8.1 mhs per 750 Ti on all of my machines. I'm completely perplexed.
legendary
Activity: 1797
Merit: 1028



what a waste...  Huh

GTX 960 HASH RATE--

I get 6Mh/s on my GTX 960 with a mild overclock (+140/+280); I mine on Give-Me-Coins.com (GMC).  My GTX 960 pulls in about 30 coins a day mining by itself on GMC.  Local and pool hashrates agree with no --diff setting.

--scryptr
sr. member
Activity: 329
Merit: 250



what a waste...  Huh
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