Topic: CENTRA Founders Starting Another Shady ICO - Phantom Core? - page 3. (Read 628 times)
Whether it's a scam or not, better to just stay away from this one. The risk is too high, not worth it
I better look for another, because there are many other projects for investment, because as we all know, Centra is a scam project. and all those involved in it will be difficult to launch new projects because of their previous history. so is better to stay away
What I find more galling is the fact that they are trying to raise another fund for something similar. They have to do right by the community - especially if their intention is honorable.
The saddest part about this is some loyal followers that never dumped their Centra scamtokens are going to support this to try to salvage their original investment. Pitiful all the way around.
Indeed, they are the sad losers.
The more info and questions about possible scam project - the better! Please spread the word across the forums! I hate how Centra scammed all supporters and investors...
I better look for another, because there are many other projects for investment, because as we all know, Centra is a scam project. and all those involved in it will be difficult to launch new projects because of their previous history. so is better to stay away
The saddest part about this is some loyal followers that never dumped their Centra scamtokens are going to support this to try to salvage their original investment. Pitiful all the way around.
Thay may be true because scammers never stop, as there is still little chance for them before regulation they come again.
This is in violation of several laws already. You can't be indicted for one crime and go off starting another operation that looks like the crime you're being indicted for - even if you have to pay legal fees...That reminds me, which celebrity would they be getting on board now?
If a person was accused as scammed he or she should clear his or her name first that their project was like this and like that before they will be involve in a new one, this project of them is surely just to scam and try to gather money...
Thay may be true because scammers never stop, as there is still little chance for them before regulation they come again.
It seems to me that they couldn't wait the moment they posted bail or whatever and stopped being a flight risk and allowed to go on the internet again they started working on another project, aka this one.
You would think being business minded it would make sense to wait until the SEC case is over and "hopefully" for them won. If they lose and go to jail then what happens to their shady phantom project?
Thay may be true because scammers never stop, as there is still little chance for them before regulation they come again.
I've been presented with evidence that Centra founders - or at least the developers behind it - have started another ICO that bears certain similarities with CTR and may or may not be a scam. The OP has requested that I present their evidence here and is willing to supply screenshots if necessary to back up their claim. Below is their original post
Follow the rest of the saga from the OP here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/centra-ctr-scam-founders-arrested-3248839
Hey everyone,
just sharing/warning people to stay clear of phantom.org as it will only make you lose money and time. I'd hate to see another group of people get tricked and over time get screwed hard.
Website: https://alpha.phantom.org/
subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Phantomcore/
Telegram: https://t.me/PhantomCore
Twitter: https://twitter.com/PhantomDotOrg
Background history:
Read:
https://www.crowdfundinsider.com/2018/05/133775-report-centra-tech-founders-plead-not-guilty-in-alleged-fraud-ico/
https://bitcoinist.com/centra-tech-indicted-60-mill-ico-fraud/
So why is this a scam?
Technically it isn't just yet. However you do the math. If founders of an ico that has been built on false statements and deception ran by people who had no prior blockchain exp and were basically just trying stuff out and not really knowing what they were doing was legal or better yet knew they were breaking rules but thought it was worth it... I wouldn't trust these guys to be able to make anything durable.
Can I read their side of the events?
Yea prior to launching this new venture of them they created this medium blog post sharing their side of the events: Dear Centra Community — Let the Truth be known
Clearly it has been well formulated and from reading it you almost feel sorry for them. :p Words can be powerful tool.
So why you so certain?
The first ico I worked for was centra as a volunteer. I was not informed nor had I access to what the founders were up to or if what they shared of info was true or false. I was just "a guy" learning ico's and trying to do my job and gain exp. However I wasn't blind either. Without knowing for sure i did feel that the founders were a bit shady in their actions, communiction towards us mods and in how they conducted themselves in private in the mod room. I had no real proof to be fully convinced so I just did my job, quit and moved to the next ico project. Months later centra got hit with a SEC investigation and stuff went ballistic and I knew at that point all my suspicions were not wrong.
On top of that they are already lying to the people right now and deleting/censoring like they did on Centra.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Phantomcore/comments/951j9u/yes_phantom_is_launching_soon_ask_me_anything/
Sam Sharma and Robert Farkas and most likely other founding members are actually involved on this and are (the real owners). The idea that a spin off group (the devs are owners aka board members) not controlled or in the pocket off the centra founders is 10%. Just ridiculous.
You could twist this into them being victims in this story of the us government; but if they did their jobs and token sale right then they wouldn't have had any issue that put them, investors and centra into ruin.
Phantom Transparency Report
The idea that they are really transparent and being honest to their supposed community is such a big joke. If they were really transparent they would not lie to their members or delete and censor like unprofessional mad people.
just sharing/warning people to stay clear of phantom.org as it will only make you lose money and time. I'd hate to see another group of people get tricked and over time get screwed hard.
Website: https://alpha.phantom.org/
subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Phantomcore/
Telegram: https://t.me/PhantomCore
Twitter: https://twitter.com/PhantomDotOrg
Background history:
Read:
https://www.crowdfundinsider.com/2018/05/133775-report-centra-tech-founders-plead-not-guilty-in-alleged-fraud-ico/
https://bitcoinist.com/centra-tech-indicted-60-mill-ico-fraud/
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THE CENTRA TECH FRAUD
Sorhab Sharma, Raymond Trapani, and Robert Farkas, the three co-founders of Centra Tech allegedly tried to defraud investors via a token sale. They were all arrested in April 2018 and charged with the same crimes. Commenting on the indictment, Deputy U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York, Robert Khuzami said that:
Sorhab Sharma, Raymond Trapani, and Robert Farkas, the three co-founders of Centra Tech allegedly tried to defraud investors via a token sale. They were all arrested in April 2018 and charged with the same crimes. Commenting on the indictment, Deputy U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York, Robert Khuzami said that:
So why is this a scam?
Technically it isn't just yet. However you do the math. If founders of an ico that has been built on false statements and deception ran by people who had no prior blockchain exp and were basically just trying stuff out and not really knowing what they were doing was legal or better yet knew they were breaking rules but thought it was worth it... I wouldn't trust these guys to be able to make anything durable.
Can I read their side of the events?
Yea prior to launching this new venture of them they created this medium blog post sharing their side of the events: Dear Centra Community — Let the Truth be known
Clearly it has been well formulated and from reading it you almost feel sorry for them. :p Words can be powerful tool.
So why you so certain?
The first ico I worked for was centra as a volunteer. I was not informed nor had I access to what the founders were up to or if what they shared of info was true or false. I was just "a guy" learning ico's and trying to do my job and gain exp. However I wasn't blind either. Without knowing for sure i did feel that the founders were a bit shady in their actions, communiction towards us mods and in how they conducted themselves in private in the mod room. I had no real proof to be fully convinced so I just did my job, quit and moved to the next ico project. Months later centra got hit with a SEC investigation and stuff went ballistic and I knew at that point all my suspicions were not wrong.
On top of that they are already lying to the people right now and deleting/censoring like they did on Centra.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Phantomcore/comments/951j9u/yes_phantom_is_launching_soon_ask_me_anything/
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Hi Markerone,
The team members are mainly the developers of the project from Centra and new developers, we are working to make a public announcement of whose going to be involved this week as the Foundation is not going to have a specific owner just board members since this is an open-source project.
We are contacting exchanges and in the process to figure out how to get the credits done appropriately.
Thank you.
The team members are mainly the developers of the project from Centra and new developers, we are working to make a public announcement of whose going to be involved this week as the Foundation is not going to have a specific owner just board members since this is an open-source project.
We are contacting exchanges and in the process to figure out how to get the credits done appropriately.
Thank you.
Sam Sharma and Robert Farkas and most likely other founding members are actually involved on this and are (the real owners). The idea that a spin off group (the devs are owners aka board members) not controlled or in the pocket off the centra founders is 10%. Just ridiculous.
You could twist this into them being victims in this story of the us government; but if they did their jobs and token sale right then they wouldn't have had any issue that put them, investors and centra into ruin.
Phantom Transparency Report
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Every week we plan to post our Phantom Transparency Report to go over the details of development and other updates we want to share with our community
The idea that they are really transparent and being honest to their supposed community is such a big joke. If they were really transparent they would not lie to their members or delete and censor like unprofessional mad people.
Follow the rest of the saga from the OP here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/centra-ctr-scam-founders-arrested-3248839
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