Central Bank of Poland paid a 1,000,000 subscriber youtuber to FUD cryptos

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Quote from: alyssa85 on February 21, 2018, 09:31:20 AM

Quote from: pinkflower on February 20, 2018, 10:34:37 PM

Did they pay in BTC? I would like to help FUD cryptocurrencies too if they did lol.

Anyhow, theres nothing to worry about. BTC and some altcoins have become so resilient, that its now impossible for them to stop.

Its like their Pandora'x Box. It would be better for them to start adopting it.

I think the Youtuber got Polish Zlotys - poor chap, he was scammed!

lol is that Poland's national currency? It would be better for him to get paid in Paypal dollars or Amazon gift cards to sell in the forum's market place.

No offense to Poland, but I have not seen a foreign money exchanger deal with Zlotys before.

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Quote from: pereira4 on February 20, 2018, 01:42:35 PM

Quote from: Mometaskers on February 19, 2018, 09:42:20 PM

LOL look like Poland can into crypto! Grin

I wonder how much they managed to buy cheaply because of this and if it was worth the money they shelled out on that guy.

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You can find this website https://uwazajnakryptowaluty.pl related to this hashtag. Central Bank of Poland has admitted that ‘it carried out a campaign on the issue of virtual currencies in social media’. Poland’s Central Bank and FCA portrays digital currencies as risky investment without having any guarantee which are not even classified as electronic money.

Well at least they didn't try to deny it. They should be forced to disclose how much they spent on this campaign though, people have to know where their money is going.

This is huge news, the implications are just too big. I can't believe this is the only thread I've seen on these news, this should be on a sticky thread to remember how governments are already trying to manipulate the opinion of people to stop the fiat leak.

And then I have to hear how complete morons want to make the blocks huge when that would only make Bitcoin less censorship resistant.

Bitcoin is under attack on the media and on the technical side with the forking scammers. Stay alert.

May i have more tech info on this?
Any source i can dig into?
Thanks

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Quote from: pereira4 on February 20, 2018, 01:42:35 PM

Quote from: Mometaskers on February 19, 2018, 09:42:20 PM

LOL look like Poland can into crypto! Grin

I wonder how much they managed to buy cheaply because of this and if it was worth the money they shelled out on that guy.

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You can find this website https://uwazajnakryptowaluty.pl related to this hashtag. Central Bank of Poland has admitted that ‘it carried out a campaign on the issue of virtual currencies in social media’. Poland’s Central Bank and FCA portrays digital currencies as risky investment without having any guarantee which are not even classified as electronic money.

Well at least they didn't try to deny it. They should be forced to disclose how much they spent on this campaign though, people have to know where their money is going.

This is huge news, the implications are just too big. I can't believe this is the only thread I've seen on these news, this should be on a sticky thread to remember how governments are already trying to manipulate the opinion of people to stop the fiat leak.

And then I have to hear how complete morons want to make the blocks huge when that would only make Bitcoin less censorship resistant.

Bitcoin is under attack on the media and on the technical side with the forking scammers. Stay alert.

I actually managed to find one more thread after reading this. Can't say much about the tech side because I'm more a casual hodler who don't even run Core. I'm more concerned about governments manipulating the price to hoard cheap btc. What are they planning to do with that? Would they "exchange" that for their own fiat to boost the treasury? Would they use that for currency wars against other countries? Or are they simply planning to stockpile that as insurance should the day that fiat obsoletes come?

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As expected,IMO this is what likely an inevitable situation due to bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies fast growth,price and abundant population of its users,not just by a certain country but nationwide.
Central bank of poland really did a wise move by spreading such news and leaving some crypto users no choice and sell their bitcoin.Amazing that they would go that far and spend lots of money for the thing that they hard to accept or legalize.

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lately i m just thinking that a lot of members in this forum is paying by the government just to spread humor and hoax news
FUDing to make investors have a second though just like those bias media having a wrongly exposure about crypto currency

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Quote from: TorbjornE on February 21, 2018, 05:33:25 AM

They can be understood. Inflation of the national currency of the national state is the same tax (by the way, the tax on the poor). A deflationary crypto currency of the bitcoin type allows it not to pay if people store their savings in it.

The use of crypto coins to prevent inflation is a good idea that countries should adopt in the financial management of their country. Nowadays, quite a few countries have started to seriously study the blockchain technology and its application in management. You can see that Venezuela is issuing its own crypto copper and is being traded at par with one barrel of oil.

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Quote from: dothebeats on February 21, 2018, 03:49:32 PM

A huge news, and it could be a reason why people sold loads of bitcoin during the crash since the heavy FUDding came from our friends at the government agencies themselves. Also, the mysterious buyer of BTC at almost a billion dollars could be them, though the buyer is still unknown to these days. It is not new that the government are behind some massive manipulations in our society, but manipulating something that they're largely opposing is not normal. They maybe in it for personal monetary gains (obvious reason) but who knows what could they be planning behind the scenes? The move by the Central Bank of Poland is something you can call awkward yet smart at the same time. Many people lost their money in the process but many people also gained on other people's tears.

When i do read up this news the first thing comes to my mind about that mysterious individual who did bought millions of dollars worth of bitcoin which might really have the possibility or the chance that they are the ones who purchases those coins but well as being said we arent sure if they are the ones or not butt really having this kind of movement do signifies that government do always jump into opportunities on where they can able to make money.They might showing bad faces into public about opposing crypto but behind it they are doing their secret motive.

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A huge news, and it could be a reason why people sold loads of bitcoin during the crash since the heavy FUDding came from our friends at the government agencies themselves. Also, the mysterious buyer of BTC at almost a billion dollars could be them, though the buyer is still unknown to these days. It is not new that the government are behind some massive manipulations in our society, but manipulating something that they're largely opposing is not normal. They maybe in it for personal monetary gains (obvious reason) but who knows what could they be planning behind the scenes? The move by the Central Bank of Poland is something you can call awkward yet smart at the same time. Many people lost their money in the process but many people also gained on other people's tears.

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If that guy lost his money because of the crypto investment that means he is stupid

) so it was a lie. But seems that he got back some from the bank, lol. Seems that the banks are really afraid on the cryptos so this could prove a good thing for us.

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Sadly, this is not surprising. There is a lot of money thrown at those who spread lies and misinformation. On the flipside those who made an effort to educate or inform the public on what the right policies to support are, such as Martin Luther King Jr. or Malcom X are attacked mercilessly by the establishment. Many of the viewpoints and perspectives presented by the media are designed to influence people into supporting policies which are worst for their own self interests.

Being against crypto currencies and bitcoin is what is worst for the public and for humanity and so there will undoubtedly be large sums of money thrown behind encouraging people to support those campaigns. Just as there are large sums of money thrown behind support of other campaigns which are bad for communities, families and the publics own self interest.

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Quote from: pereira4 on February 19, 2018, 02:37:47 PM

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Marcin Dubiel – Polish Youtuber who has around one million subscribers was offered with a payment of approximately $30,000 (over 90 000 zl) by the Central Bank of Poland. In exchange Youtuber had to cooperate with Polish Financial Supervision Authority and was asked to display cryptocurrencies from negative side without letting viewers know about payment for such ‘advertising’.

The conspiracy is now confirmed. Governments are spreading fake news everywhere in order to stop the fiat leak into bitcoin and other cryptos. They don't want their citizens to be holding big amounts of bitcoin since when the time comes they will not be able to steal their saving accounts. Read the full story here:

http://www.cryptovibes.com/crypto-news/youtuber-was-paid-by-polish-bank-to-slander-crpytocurrencies/

There are leaked documents confirming this is real.

I wouldn't be surprised the 400 million buy order was from some government buying cheap coins after FUDding the market.

That is why the crypto currencies enthusiasts should be wise. Governments and elites has never what crypto currencies to be and we should understand this in other to know our reality. Governments are the one spreading fud and putting bitcoin and other coins in bad light in other for the populace to disregard the freedom that crypto currency come with.

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Quote from: pereira4 on February 19, 2018, 02:37:47 PM

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Marcin Dubiel – Polish Youtuber who has around one million subscribers was offered with a payment of approximately $30,000 (over 90 000 zl) by the Central Bank of Poland. In exchange Youtuber had to cooperate with Polish Financial Supervision Authority and was asked to display cryptocurrencies from negative side without letting viewers know about payment for such ‘advertising’.

The conspiracy is now confirmed. Governments are spreading fake news everywhere in order to stop the fiat leak into bitcoin and other cryptos. They don't want their citizens to be holding big amounts of bitcoin since when the time comes they will not be able to steal their saving accounts. Read the full story here:

http://www.cryptovibes.com/crypto-news/youtuber-was-paid-by-polish-bank-to-slander-crpytocurrencies/

There are leaked documents confirming this is real.

I wouldn't be surprised the 400 million buy order was from some government buying cheap coins after FUDding the market.

News like this are really not new because all of every negative reports that goes around about the entire crypto market, started from somewhere and sometimes even sponsored and leaked to the media by giving them incentives to ensure the topic remain the most talked about for days until the effect they wanted is achieved. But they won't referred to it as FUD rather they call it PR activities or media and advertising expenses.

While I won't agree that the FUD is for sponsors to drive down the price so they can buy, that is not necessarily the case because we have seen competitors sponsoring advert against each other and not even promoting their own product only for the objective of ensuring that the competitor's product is not marketable and that is what I see going on here but unfortunately for them, we know better and all of sponsored posts is never permanent.

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Quote from: cynical on February 21, 2018, 09:52:18 AM

Quote from: alyssa85 on February 20, 2018, 10:19:45 PM

Quote from: pereira4 on February 20, 2018, 01:42:35 PM

This is huge news, the implications are just too big. I can't believe this is the only thread I've seen on these news, this should be on a sticky thread to remember how governments are already trying to manipulate the opinion of people to stop the fiat leak.

And then I have to hear how complete morons want to make the blocks huge when that would only make Bitcoin less censorship resistant.

Bitcoin is under attack on the media and on the technical side with the forking scammers. Stay alert.

It's not really huge news. Poland is just a small ex communist country that is quite poor. Most Poles haven't adopted bitcoin, most of them don't have enough money to invest. Lets face it, even if they were successful in deteriing people, it makes no difference to bitcoin's price.

Bitcoin's future will be decided in the financial capitals of the world - the US, the UK, Switzerland and Singapore. If those countries adopt bitcoin (and it looks like they are all legalising it), then it's unstoppable. And the reason they're adopting it is because they see a future in being the financial capitals that allow crypto, as opposed to the oppressed countries that have banned it.

Poland, dont write them off - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Poland

The economy of Poland is the eighth largest economy in the European Union
as of 2017 the Polish economy has been growing steadily for the past 26 years, a record high in the EU
Poland is classified as high-income economy by World Bank

This report shows that the banks are afraid, enough to fork out $30,000.
how was the $30,000 approved?
how far up did the approval go I wonder?
ECB?
Another question arises, how many more banks have done this?

Turns out that youtuber was not the only one, so it was more than $30,000 most likely, they paid tons of polish youtubers, see here:

https://www.ccn.com/polands-central-bank-admits-sponsoring-smear-campaign-cryptocurrencies/

Im sure ALL big youtubers in Poland that made FUD-ish videos during that period were part of the smear campaign. Very sad!

Keep your eyes open because this is only the beginning. If Poland can do it, imagine what the US Government can do with their budget. They could pay huge 10+ million subscriber youtubers to start a FUDfest. Do not believe youtubers, they are clueless rich kids.

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Well no matter how you look at this...it's getting funnier and funnier ...
People won't stop believing in fake news and everyone else won't stop spreading it..
Also if they were paying that much to the YouTuber then one must realize that they for sure made profit more than that...
Looks like now everyone's seeing cryptos as a source of income by spreading fake news buying at low n selling at high.

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Quote from: OROBTC on February 21, 2018, 10:28:32 AM

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Generally speaking, if enough “experts” and MainStream Media/.govs/investment banks launch these sorts of campaigns, that is a sign to take the other side of the bet... In this case, BTC is likely a buy.

Goldman-Sachs typically makes bad calls to screw their muppet customers in a similar way. Other prominent investment pros are similar (they make bad calls). The lesson here? Think for yourself!

You have to think that the main reason for many of them to attack bitcoin is because they're afraid of it and they don't want it to succeed. If large banks and governments are afraid of bitcoin then that only shows the potential behind it.

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Generally speaking, if enough “experts” and MainStream Media/.govs/investment banks launch these sorts of campaigns, that is a sign to take the other side of the bet... In this case, BTC is likely a buy.

Goldman-Sachs typically makes bad calls to screw their muppet customers in a similar way. Other prominent investment pros are similar (they make bad calls). The lesson here? Think for yourself!

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Quote from: alyssa85 on February 20, 2018, 10:19:45 PM

Quote from: pereira4 on February 20, 2018, 01:42:35 PM

This is huge news, the implications are just too big. I can't believe this is the only thread I've seen on these news, this should be on a sticky thread to remember how governments are already trying to manipulate the opinion of people to stop the fiat leak.

And then I have to hear how complete morons want to make the blocks huge when that would only make Bitcoin less censorship resistant.

Bitcoin is under attack on the media and on the technical side with the forking scammers. Stay alert.

It's not really huge news. Poland is just a small ex communist country that is quite poor. Most Poles haven't adopted bitcoin, most of them don't have enough money to invest. Lets face it, even if they were successful in deteriing people, it makes no difference to bitcoin's price.

Bitcoin's future will be decided in the financial capitals of the world - the US, the UK, Switzerland and Singapore. If those countries adopt bitcoin (and it looks like they are all legalising it), then it's unstoppable. And the reason they're adopting it is because they see a future in being the financial capitals that allow crypto, as opposed to the oppressed countries that have banned it.

Poland, dont write them off - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Poland

The economy of Poland is the eighth largest economy in the European Union
as of 2017 the Polish economy has been growing steadily for the past 26 years, a record high in the EU
Poland is classified as high-income economy by World Bank

This report shows that the banks are afraid, enough to fork out $30,000.
how was the $30,000 approved?
how far up did the approval go I wonder?
ECB?
Another question arises, how many more banks have done this?

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Quote from: pinkflower on February 20, 2018, 10:34:37 PM

Did they pay in BTC? I would like to help FUD cryptocurrencies too if they did lol.

Anyhow, theres nothing to worry about. BTC and some altcoins have become so resilient, that its now impossible for them to stop.

Its like their Pandora'x Box. It would be better for them to start adopting it.

I think the Youtuber got Polish Zlotys - poor chap, he was scammed!

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Quote from: buytheeffinD on February 20, 2018, 02:29:17 PM

Quote from: pereira4 on February 20, 2018, 01:42:35 PM

Quote from: Mometaskers on February 19, 2018, 09:42:20 PM

LOL look like Poland can into crypto! Grin

I wonder how much they managed to buy cheaply because of this and if it was worth the money they shelled out on that guy.

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You can find this website https://uwazajnakryptowaluty.pl related to this hashtag. Central Bank of Poland has admitted that ‘it carried out a campaign on the issue of virtual currencies in social media’. Poland’s Central Bank and FCA portrays digital currencies as risky investment without having any guarantee which are not even classified as electronic money.

Well at least they didn't try to deny it. They should be forced to disclose how much they spent on this campaign though, people have to know where their money is going.

This is huge news, the implications are just too big. I can't believe this is the only thread I've seen on these news, this should be on a sticky thread to remember how governments are already trying to manipulate the opinion of people to stop the fiat leak.

And then I have to hear how complete morons want to make the blocks huge when that would only make Bitcoin less censorship resistant.

Bitcoin is under attack on the media and on the technical side with the forking scammers. Stay alert.

The implications are big but I don't think they are what everybody currently thinks about it. On the face of it this looks negative but if you look closely it is actually a huge positive. Ask yourself why would a government try and stop something like blockchain and bitcoin? Simple, because they are scared and fear it they try and take it down any way they can. Another analogy I can give to paint this picture is if your girlfriend is upset when you do something stupid (that is good!) because she cares and wants to figure it out, if she gives no fucks then that is bad (either you are useless or not enough to care about). The very fact that governments care and are willing to go to these lengths means we got something good here boys!

Who told you that the government is afraid of Bitcoin? Bitcoin won’t smell the next day if the governments decides to tackle it, I’m serious. What you see is just a few, low level country governments kicking against Bitcoin. If all government supports the idea of stopping Bitcoin, I believe it will be over by now. But some of them are interested and uses it to attract more income into their country.

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As I already argued in another thread this news can probably be at least
partly explained by the fact that Poland is an extremely religious country that has
become even more conservative under the current government.

Making a paid FUD video is just in line with other videos against stuff like trading,
online gambling or other activities that are not endorsed by a country that is growing
more conservative.

They want people to work hard for a wage that they can heavily tax instead of gambling
huge money on the price movements of cryptocurrency.

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