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Topic: CEX.IO Suspends Cloud Mining............. - page 4. (Read 7715 times)

hero member
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January 16, 2015, 08:34:24 AM
#61
now bitcoin prize is 210 dolar
if we can see over 250 dolar, mining will be profitable again
i hope we can see..
i lose profit cex and hashnest in same time Sad

What was the price when cex stopped its cloud mining operations? I think they will definitely offer cloud mining when the price is 300$

it was 230 USD.

many other big miners stopped their activity and cash out the Bitcoin. the boat is sinking  Embarrassed

There are rumors the reason bitcoin took this huge plummet is off of BFL. They had to sell off their bitcoin to fiat to pay their customers in a lawsuit. Guess what they still have over 90,000 btc left to dump. It seems bitcoin rebounds above 200 mark so thats good to know.

I am not entirely convinced about this explanation. The truth may lie in a few people dumping large amounts for various reasons : those who stole the gox coins or the stamp coins or during an other hack.
legendary
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We are the champions of the night
January 15, 2015, 08:27:45 PM
#60
now bitcoin prize is 210 dolar
if we can see over 250 dolar, mining will be profitable again
i hope we can see..
i lose profit cex and hashnest in same time Sad

What was the price when cex stopped its cloud mining operations? I think they will definitely offer cloud mining when the price is 300$

it was 230 USD.

many other big miners stopped their activity and cash out the Bitcoin. the boat is sinking  Embarrassed

There are rumors the reason bitcoin took this huge plummet is off of BFL. They had to sell off their bitcoin to fiat to pay their customers in a lawsuit. Guess what they still have over 90,000 btc left to dump. It seems bitcoin rebounds above 200 mark so thats good to know.
Combine that with the Stamp robbery and it's no wonder the price is going down Sad
newbie
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January 15, 2015, 07:35:22 PM
#59
is it all based on the recent price drop? they dont see a profit or something.
legendary
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January 15, 2015, 06:58:22 PM
#58
now bitcoin prize is 210 dolar
if we can see over 250 dolar, mining will be profitable again
i hope we can see..
i lose profit cex and hashnest in same time Sad

What was the price when cex stopped its cloud mining operations? I think they will definitely offer cloud mining when the price is 300$

it was 230 USD.

many other big miners stopped their activity and cash out the Bitcoin. the boat is sinking  Embarrassed

There are rumors the reason bitcoin took this huge plummet is off of BFL. They had to sell off their bitcoin to fiat to pay their customers in a lawsuit. Guess what they still have over 90,000 btc left to dump. It seems bitcoin rebounds above 200 mark so thats good to know.
legendary
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We are the champions of the night
January 15, 2015, 06:54:06 PM
#57
wait why the hell would they stop? i dont even understand what the heck is going on.. is it all based on difficulty?
The miners they have now aren't making enough to cover the power cost after the price drop since they're mostly older ones. 
newbie
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January 15, 2015, 06:50:10 PM
#56
wait why the hell would they stop? i dont even understand what the heck is going on.. is it all based on difficulty?
legendary
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January 15, 2015, 12:20:19 PM
#55
now bitcoin prize is 210 dolar
if we can see over 250 dolar, mining will be profitable again
i hope we can see..
i lose profit cex and hashnest in same time Sad

What was the price when cex stopped its cloud mining operations? I think they will definitely offer cloud mining when the price is 300$

it was 230 USD.

many other big miners stopped their activity and cash out the Bitcoin. the boat is sinking  Embarrassed
hero member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 500
January 15, 2015, 08:51:49 AM
#54
now bitcoin prize is 210 dolar
if we can see over 250 dolar, mining will be profitable again
i hope we can see..
i lose profit cex and hashnest in same time Sad

What was the price when cex stopped its cloud mining operations? I think they will definitely offer cloud mining when the price is 300$
legendary
Activity: 826
Merit: 1004
January 15, 2015, 06:31:19 AM
#53
I think it's troubling they couldn't be bothered with upgrading their hardware as time went along.
At one time they gave an option to buy their mining hardware but I don't see that now. Their hardware was old a year ago and I didn't see any newer efficient hardware being installed.
They honestly didn't get a ROI and than some on their cloud operation?


Why would that be troubling? Cloud mining gets you a fixed amount of hashing power just like buying a miner gets you a fixed amount of hashing power. If you're running a physical miner then at some point, electricity costs will be greater than mining income. The same is true of cloud mining. If you bought a physical miner and it became unprofitable would you expect the seller to send you a new, more efficient miner free of charge? No, you wouldn't, so why would you expect a cloud mining service provider to upgrade their cloud mining contracts free of charge.

Its a sign that they may have been fractional reserve mining because BTC hasn't dropped that low where it is unprofitable to pay for electricity. Rather than popping like other cloud mining services they simply suspend payouts due to increased maintenance costs.

"Cloud mining services" that go pop are not cloud mining services at all - they're ponzis. If you look at the few legitimate services, they all have have a "stop mining clause" for when maintenance fees are greater than mining income. Anyone mining for a profit would turn their miners off under such conditions. It's simply common sense.

If it's so much trouble to keep things going then why are there other cloud mining companies that are doing just fine? Doesn't add up, but oh well, I didn't like cex.io much either, seems to me a case of poor management of their funds if they're truly having difficulties.

There are only 2 legitimate cloud mining services left in the game - ASICMiner's AMHash and BitFury's Bit-x. All the others are ponzis and therefore have no hardware costs to recuperate and no maintenance fees to pay. Hashnest has become unprofitable. Bit-x became unprofitable but they reduced their maintenance fees by 33% to keep themselves in the game.

cloud mining (ALL OF IT) has always been a ponzi.  

No equipment, no mining, just promises of forever payouts.

things can't sustain when demand drops and overall price is not rising.

ASICMiner, BitFury, Bitmain and KNC all offer cloud mining services. None of them offer "forever" payouts. Perhaps you should look at some of the legitimate services from the manufacturers instead of the ponzis.

cloud mining is almost dead. maybe some chinesse to still mining Smiley

Both ASICMiner and BitFury run their own cloud mining services and both companies will have ~0.2 J/Gh ASIC very soon. In the coming months, you'll undoubtedly see those ASICs power new cloud mining services. I'll be very surprised if Spondoolies don't get in on the action too.

Cloud mining isn't dead, it's about to explode now that most manufacturers are running their own services.
full member
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January 15, 2015, 06:29:03 AM
#52
now bitcoin prize is 210 dolar
if we can see over 250 dolar, mining will be profitable again
i hope we can see..
i lose profit cex and hashnest in same time Sad
hero member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 500
January 15, 2015, 06:00:58 AM
#51
fistlu cex stop mining
and today hashnest stop mining too
i dont think they will start minin again..
cloud mining will die..
This may be a good opportunity to buy up a lot of shares of cex's GHs cheaply. The price will eventually rebound high enough so that it would be profitable for owners of GHs to turn them back on and the difficulty seems to be stabilizing somewhat. This is especially true if you have some bitcoin that you can afford to have be tied up for several months

The difficulty may be stabilizing because cex.io is stopping cloud mining. If the price of BTC will go to 300$ again soon, they will resume mining and the price per GHS will go back to 0.0013 or more per GHS for a more than 100% profit in BTC.
legendary
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January 15, 2015, 05:38:49 AM
#50
If it's so much trouble to keep things going then why are there other cloud mining companies that are doing just fine? Doesn't add up, but oh well, I didn't like cex.io much either, seems to me a case of poor management of their funds if they're truly having difficulties.

Other cloud mining companies are not "doing just fine."  EG, Cointerra, GMP, and PETA are dead.  Even AM and 100TH are down to paying the occasional dust dividend.

Lethn may be the dumbest Legendary member of this forum.  He spews idiotic, demonstrably incorrect crap like this all the time.
hero member
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January 15, 2015, 05:31:14 AM
#49
fistlu cex stop mining
and today hashnest stop mining too
i dont think they will start minin again..
cloud mining will die..
This may be a good opportunity to buy up a lot of shares of cex's GHs cheaply. The price will eventually rebound high enough so that it would be profitable for owners of GHs to turn them back on and the difficulty seems to be stabilizing somewhat. This is especially true if you have some bitcoin that you can afford to have be tied up for several months
this is not cheap by any means. the other place has it at  a similar price, and they are plugged in. still paying out.
It looks like they are trading at $0.11 right now. Compare that to the roughly $0.3289 per gh/s that an s3 costs (plus the cost of a PSU). Granted an s3 is probably going to be more efficient but the cost per gh/s is much higher
sr. member
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Merit: 250
January 15, 2015, 02:36:35 AM
#48
fistlu cex stop mining
and today hashnest stop mining too
i dont think they will start minin again..
cloud mining will die..
This may be a good opportunity to buy up a lot of shares of cex's GHs cheaply. The price will eventually rebound high enough so that it would be profitable for owners of GHs to turn them back on and the difficulty seems to be stabilizing somewhat. This is especially true if you have some bitcoin that you can afford to have be tied up for several months
this is not cheap by any means. the other place has it at  a similar price, and they are plugged in. still paying out.
legendary
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January 15, 2015, 02:29:24 AM
#47
How can they stop mining and hashrate increases again.

This is fucking insane.

because they arent actually mining? just saying they are then buying the coin to pay people, not sure.
sr. member
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January 14, 2015, 11:33:08 PM
#46
How can they stop mining and hashrate increases again.

This is fucking insane.
They are still mining for themselves, just officially stopped, so they don't have to pay their customers.
The price of BTC will go up again and they know it.
legendary
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January 14, 2015, 10:34:52 PM
#45
cloud mining is almost dead. maybe some chinesse to still mining Smiley
hero member
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Merit: 1000
January 14, 2015, 08:32:57 PM
#44
fistlu cex stop mining
and today hashnest stop mining too
i dont think they will start minin again..
cloud mining will die..
This may be a good opportunity to buy up a lot of shares of cex's GHs cheaply. The price will eventually rebound high enough so that it would be profitable for owners of GHs to turn them back on and the difficulty seems to be stabilizing somewhat. This is especially true if you have some bitcoin that you can afford to have be tied up for several months
hero member
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January 14, 2015, 05:15:57 PM
#43
How can they stop mining and hashrate increases again.

This is fucking insane.
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
January 14, 2015, 05:37:52 AM
#42
fistlu cex stop mining
and today hashnest stop mining too
i dont think they will start minin again..
cloud mining will die..
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