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Topic: ChainProfit.com - 27+ BTC Paid | 140% Return | Running over four months now - page 23. (Read 28740 times)

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legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1002
!! HODL !!
Crazy Ponzi.... Nice name!

The only people investing in a PONZI will be the CRAZY ones!

That's why it is called CrazyPonzi !! Grin
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 501
I like your game concept, but in order to keep the ball rolling, the last person should get a reward instead of just being a loser, also the return must be kept low, 110% - 150% is enough

I'd rather like to see a longer time span variance, e.g. 6hr-48hr.
legendary
Activity: 1662
Merit: 1050
I like your game concept, but in order to keep the ball rolling, the last person should get a reward instead of just being a loser, also the return must be kept low, 110% - 150% is enough

I'd like to see it reaching 200% sometimes... makes things spicy Wink
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
I like your game concept, but in order to keep the ball rolling, the last person should get a reward instead of just being a loser, also the return must be kept low, 110% - 150% is enough
full member
Activity: 128
Merit: 100
so u're asking with other words, how can we know when scammer will run ? u cant ...this is not gambling ... its stupidity ...

Sure it is gambling, you are gambling on the site behaving fairly.   I think odds can be calculated, but the calculations are very complex and well beyond simple math.     

Anyway, any gambling site can be "hacked" at any moment.   Many have especially in the altcoin world.   Can you be sure none of those weren't the same, that is the operator just ran off with the money?

True..security is the key for all gambling based sites.. How secure is your site?

Contrary to the current Ponzi Games, you have to sign up and login in www.CrazyPonzi.com. The withdrawals are manual, but will be made daily so that one can withdraw even before a round finish. Implementation of manual withdrawal has made this site secure against hot wallet hack.

Fine. First of all I like your design & the concept. It is at least unique and not copy-cat of other Ponzi Games.

But how do you make profit ? Why will you run the game if you can not make profit ?

I think this...

Hello... After taking the community feedback about how a transparent Ponzi Game should be, I have built a demo version of the game. It is now available at www.CrazyPonzi.com. As it is a demo, you can not deposit or withdraw any bitcoin for now, but you can play. To play, we are giving 1 BTC of play money at each sign up. Please note that, it is not withdrawable and before we launch our operation, we will make all balances to Zero. The site is still under development. But, for the sake ease in testing the demo, I am stating the rules over here...

1. Every round starts with a random investment by the system between 0.0005 BTC to 0.005 BTC.

2. Every round has a random return % between 110% to 200%.

3. Every round has a random investment window between 1 Hour to 10 Hour, within which a new player should invest. As soon as a new player invest, the countdown clock restarts again.

4. Every next player's invest will payout its previous investor and hence only the last person looses.

5. System will take 1% on every return. That is where system gets profitable.

6. Once the withdrawal is allowed, a player can withdraw his earning even before the round is over. Withdrawal will take place once in every day.

I have tried to cover all the points that are coming to my mind for now. If any part of the game is not clear to you, please do ask out. I'll update the site's FAQ with your Qs.
legendary
Activity: 1662
Merit: 1050
so u're asking with other words, how can we know when scammer will run ? u cant ...this is not gambling ... its stupidity ...

Sure it is gambling, you are gambling on the site behaving fairly.   I think odds can be calculated, but the calculations are very complex and well beyond simple math.     

Anyway, any gambling site can be "hacked" at any moment.   Many have especially in the altcoin world.   Can you be sure none of those weren't the same, that is the operator just ran off with the money?

True..security is the key for all gambling based sites.. How secure is your site?

Contrary to the current Ponzi Games, you have to sign up and login in www.CrazyPonzi.com. The withdrawals are manual, but will be made daily so that one can withdraw even before a round finish. Implementation of manual withdrawal has made this site secure against hot wallet hack.

Fine. First of all I like your design & the concept. It is at least unique and not copy-cat of other Ponzi Games.

But how do you make profit ? Why will you run the game if you can not make profit ?
full member
Activity: 689
Merit: 102
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2. Every round has a random return % between 110% to 200%.
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4. Every next player's invest will payout its previous investor and hence only the last person looses.

I dont understand #4 here I think. Lets say its a 200% round (which should double). If we further assume Fixed deposit amounts:

#1 invests 1 - bankroll is 1
#2 invests 1 - bankroll is 2, #1 gets paid 2
#3 invests 1 - bankroll is 1, #2 gets paid 2, where does the missing 1 BTC come from?

No. The system is not like that. As I have mentioned in point 4, the next person should always pay the previous person's payout. So, your example with 200% return will look like as follows...

#1 invests 1 - bankroll is 1
#2 invests 2 - bankroll is 2, #1 gets paid 2
#3 invests 4 - bankroll is 4, #2 gets paid 4


4. "Every next player's invest will payout its previous investor and hence only the last person looses."
Untrue.
This statement is only true if you substitute the word 'level' for the words 'player', 'investor' and 'person'.
As each level must, by definition, be 2x as big in value in order to pay the level above, this is an application of MLM to this "game" where the # are levels, not individual people.
As the value of each level doubles, then the lower levels obviously consist of more and more individuals who are likely to lose everything if their level is the last.

To say "only the last person loses" is untrue and deliberately misleading, the sort of lies the MLM industry tells all the time..

4. "Every next player's invest will payout its previous investor and hence only the last person looses."
True.

One single investor/player/person, however you identify an entity participating in the game, will have to pay double of the previous player, if the round return is 200%. 2x bigger payment is not constituted of multiple player's contribution. For a 200% round every player must pay 200% of the previous player, otherwise they will not be able to play. You call it MLM/Ponzi is up to you, but at the end of the day it is a game, where rules are clear from the beginning. And yes, only the last person loses is absolutely true. Please play in www.CrazyPonzi.com with the 1BTC non-withdrawable play money and provide me the Bet IDs where multiple players have lost in a single round.
legendary
Activity: 1932
Merit: 1737
"Common rogue from Russia with a bare ass."
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2. Every round has a random return % between 110% to 200%.
-snip-
4. Every next player's invest will payout its previous investor and hence only the last person looses.

I dont understand #4 here I think. Lets say its a 200% round (which should double). If we further assume Fixed deposit amounts:

#1 invests 1 - bankroll is 1
#2 invests 1 - bankroll is 2, #1 gets paid 2
#3 invests 1 - bankroll is 1, #2 gets paid 2, where does the missing 1 BTC come from?

No. The system is not like that. As I have mentioned in point 4, the next person should always pay the previous person's payout. So, your example with 200% return will look like as follows...

#1 invests 1 - bankroll is 1
#2 invests 2 - bankroll is 2, #1 gets paid 2
#3 invests 4 - bankroll is 4, #2 gets paid 4


4. "Every next player's invest will payout its previous investor and hence only the last person looses."
Untrue.
This statement is only true if you substitute the word 'level' for the words 'player', 'investor' and 'person'.
As each level must, by definition, be 2x as big in value in order to pay the level above, this is an application of MLM to this "game" where the # are levels, not individual people.
As the value of each level doubles, then the lower levels obviously consist of more and more individuals who are likely to lose everything if their level is the last.

To say "only the last person loses" is untrue and deliberately misleading, the sort of lies the MLM industry tells all the time..
full member
Activity: 689
Merit: 102
so u're asking with other words, how can we know when scammer will run ? u cant ...this is not gambling ... its stupidity ...

Sure it is gambling, you are gambling on the site behaving fairly.   I think odds can be calculated, but the calculations are very complex and well beyond simple math.     

Anyway, any gambling site can be "hacked" at any moment.   Many have especially in the altcoin world.   Can you be sure none of those weren't the same, that is the operator just ran off with the money?

True..security is the key for all gambling based sites.. How secure is your site?

Contrary to the current Ponzi Games, you have to sign up and login in www.CrazyPonzi.com. The withdrawals are manual, but will be made daily so that one can withdraw even before a round finish. Implementation of manual withdrawal has made this site secure against hot wallet hack.
full member
Activity: 689
Merit: 102
-snip-
2. Every round has a random return % between 110% to 200%.
-snip-
4. Every next player's invest will payout its previous investor and hence only the last person looses.

I dont understand #4 here I think. Lets say its a 200% round (which should double). If we further assume Fixed deposit amounts:

#1 invests 1 - bankroll is 1
#2 invests 1 - bankroll is 2, #1 gets paid 2
#3 invests 1 - bankroll is 1, #2 gets paid 2, where does the missing 1 BTC come from?

No. The system is not like that. As I have mentioned in point 4, the next person should always pay the previous person's payout. So, your example with 200% return will look like as follows...

#1 invests 1 - bankroll is 1
#2 invests 2 - bankroll is 2, #1 gets paid 2
#3 invests 4 - bankroll is 4, #2 gets paid 4

You may also follow/participate in the current round that is going on at www.CrazyPonzi.com. May be things will be clearer then. Please feel free to ask any more Q if you have...
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 1081
#SWGT CERTIK Audited
so u're asking with other words, how can we know when scammer will run ? u cant ...this is not gambling ... its stupidity ...

Sure it is gambling, you are gambling on the site behaving fairly.   I think odds can be calculated, but the calculations are very complex and well beyond simple math.     

Anyway, any gambling site can be "hacked" at any moment.   Many have especially in the altcoin world.   Can you be sure none of those weren't the same, that is the operator just ran off with the money?

True..security is the key for all gambling based sites.. How secure is your site?
copper member
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1528
No I dont escrow anymore.
-snip-
2. Every round has a random return % between 110% to 200%.
-snip-
4. Every next player's invest will payout its previous investor and hence only the last person looses.

I dont understand #4 here I think. Lets say its a 200% round (which should double). If we further assume Fixed deposit amounts:

#1 invests 1 - bankroll is 1
#2 invests 1 - bankroll is 2, #1 gets paid 2
#3 invests 1 - bankroll is 1, #2 gets paid 2, where does the missing 1 BTC come from?
full member
Activity: 689
Merit: 102


there is always a risk and please dont say that you dont cheat, because we all know sooner or later your ponzi game will be dying and you will prolly shut down your site and take the leftover from your game

Apart from the leftover, ponzis owners are known to take the last few deposits . As they know, that that is the only way for them to profit.

Please check point 5 of the above post. I have explicit profit mechanism inside the game itself. Please try out the demo at www.crazyponzi.com and let me know your feedback. Its free to try...
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 100


there is always a risk and please dont say that you dont cheat, because we all know sooner or later your ponzi game will be dying and you will prolly shut down your site and take the leftover from your game

Apart from the leftover, ponzis owners are known to take the last few deposits . As they know, that that is the only way for them to profit.
full member
Activity: 689
Merit: 102
Hello... After taking the community feedback about how a transparent Ponzi Game should be, I have built a demo version of the game. It is now available at www.CrazyPonzi.com. As it is a demo, you can not deposit or withdraw any bitcoin for now, but you can play. To play, we are giving 1 BTC of play money at each sign up. Please note that, it is not withdrawable and before we launch our operation, we will make all balances to Zero. The site is still under development. But, for the sake ease in testing the demo, I am stating the rules over here...

1. Every round starts with a random investment by the system between 0.0005 BTC to 0.005 BTC.

2. Every round has a random return % between 110% to 200%.

3. Every round has a random investment window between 1 Hour to 10 Hour, within which a new player should invest. As soon as a new player invest, the countdown clock restarts again.

4. Every next player's invest will payout its previous investor and hence only the last person looses.

5. System will take 1% on every return. That is where system gets profitable.

6. Once the withdrawal is allowed, a player can withdraw his earning even before the round is over. Withdrawal will take place once in every day.

I have tried to cover all the points that are coming to my mind for now. If any part of the game is not clear to you, please do ask out. I'll update the site's FAQ with your Qs.
legendary
Activity: 1064
Merit: 1000
Every scammer says so...

Tell me how it could be better?  There is an inherent level of risk in any game of change, but given you know how it will impact you, there is no better game.

That is the point. In any kind of bitcoin business, there is a risk involved for the customer. If a merchant/service provider is saying, there is no risk, he/she is simply lying and should be avoided.

Did I miss something?  When did I say there was no risk.  All I said was that the risk was as minimal as could be expected.

You said that you have come up with a perfect "Ponzi Game".

I have.  There is no way for me (the operator) to cheat. 

there is always a risk and please dont say that you dont cheat, because we all know sooner or later your ponzi game will be dying and you will prolly shut down your site and take the leftover from your game
jr. member
Activity: 95
Merit: 1
Every scammer says so...

Tell me how it could be better?  There is an inherent level of risk in any game of change, but given you know how it will impact you, there is no better game.

That is the point. In any kind of bitcoin business, there is a risk involved for the customer. If a merchant/service provider is saying, there is no risk, he/she is simply lying and should be avoided.

Did I miss something?  When did I say there was no risk.  All I said was that the risk was as minimal as could be expected.

You said that you have come up with a perfect "Ponzi Game".

I have.  There is no way for me (the operator) to cheat. 
jr. member
Activity: 95
Merit: 1
don't lose your time there is no way to have a perfect ponzi game the risk always 80% in all ponzi

I have already done it with the http://theponzigames.com, but would you care to explain to me how it is that you believe there is a 80% risk in my game?
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
don't lose your time there is no way to have a perfect ponzi game the risk always 80% in all ponzi
legendary
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Merit: 1234
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