ChangeNow.io (Evercode Lab) - Scam. Illegally holding of 100 BCH (11 bitcoins). - page 7.

ni23457

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Quote from: OpenCryptoSystem on September 28, 2018, 05:25:23 PM

Small part' ? They keep 70k $$ right?

Right, just small part of full amount of exchange

Quote from: OpenCryptoSystem on September 28, 2018, 05:25:23 PM

How u was confused by changefully ?

changelly changefully changenow - what's the difference? They are just St. Petersburg family

Quote from: OpenCryptoSystem on September 28, 2018, 05:25:23 PM

If you.made this 70k with ur work and knowledge with something then you would never lose this like that.

Where are such wise and insightful people born? I'm even ashamed Grin

OpenCryptoSystem

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Quote from: ni23457 on September 28, 2018, 04:23:29 PM

Quote from: OpenCryptoSystem on September 28, 2018, 04:08:58 PM

can be so stupid to trust so big money and lose everything.

Quote from: ni23457 on July 07, 2018, 01:38:49 PM

Q: Why 100 BCH?
A: It was only a first small part and I confused them with Changelly

But at that time I did not even suspect that in fact ChangeNOW is just a part of Changelly Grin

Small part' ? They keep 70k $$ right?
So its not small.
How u was confused by changefully ?
They are different names.
If you.made this 70k with ur work and knowledge with something then you would never lose this like that.

U got this money by luck this is only way guys like you get it and lose.

I can tell you not even only 20k $$ holders will not risk like this.

ni23457

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Quote from: OpenCryptoSystem on September 28, 2018, 04:08:58 PM

can be so stupid to trust so big money and lose everything.

Quote from: ni23457 on July 07, 2018, 01:38:49 PM

Q: Why 100 BCH?
A: It was only a first small part and I confused them with Changelly

But at that time I did not even suspect that in fact ChangeNOW is just a part of Changelly Grin

OpenCryptoSystem

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Quote from: JollyGood on September 27, 2018, 05:49:13 PM

Quote from: ni23457 on September 27, 2018, 05:31:08 PM

And they realized that lying about their fear of Europol (if they return my coins) will not work and decided to just disappear from here.

In other words Polina_changeNOW claimed that changeNOW would get in to trouble for breaking AML laws if they returned your crypto to you !

Polina_changeNOW also failed to explain what they have been doing with your crypto for over 3 months.

We all know these are low-life scammers and criminals. Everybody please stay away from changenow, atomic swaps wallet, changelly and evercode as they are all interconnected scammers playing games with selective scamming.

How its possible that person who has about 11bch coins can be so stupid to trust so big money and lose everything.
Even if they pay back why take even risk ??
I was looking their website changenow i did not see anything there wich will make me trust this company.

I love to see how it will end i will keep looking.
I have learned a lot just to watching this changenow case.

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Quote from: ni23457 on September 27, 2018, 05:31:08 PM

And they realized that lying about their fear of Europol (if they return my coins) will not work and decided to just disappear from here.

In other words Polina_changeNOW claimed that changeNOW would get in to trouble for breaking AML laws if they returned your crypto to you !

Polina_changeNOW also failed to explain what they have been doing with your crypto for over 3 months.

We all know these are low-life scammers and criminals. Everybody please stay away from changenow, atomic swaps wallet, changelly and evercode as they are all interconnected scammers playing games with selective scamming.

ni23457

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How cynical it is
ChangeNOW Last Active: September 13, 2018, 09:36:46 AM
Polina_ChangeNOW Last Active: September 23, 2018, 07:35:02 PM

They realized that it's impossible to fool this forum anymore and just forgot about it. But they will continue to fool people elsewhere.

I remind you that recently they talked about the refund and they were looking for "legal" ways to deny me in it.

Quote from: Polina_ChangeNOW on September 14, 2018, 11:37:04 AM

As for the refund - we will refund the OP as soon as we have legal grounds for that. We really hope that this situation is resolved as soon as possible.

But later it became known that

Quote from: ni23457 on September 21, 2018, 10:03:23 AM

At the same time, I was a customer of Changelly and have whitelisted account there and exchanged hundreds of bitcoins in recent months without any kind of KYC. (it's funny but they gave me whitelisted account after ChangeNOW's scam!) The fact is that I have 5-year-old crystal clear coins, so it never aroused suspicion from anyone.

And they realized that lying about their fear of Europol (if they return my coins) will not work and decided to just disappear from here.

Bazinga442

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Quote from: Vizefog on September 25, 2018, 06:41:24 AM

I'm lost in guesses, what will be the next thread about changenow? You will blame them for the tragedy 11.09.2001?

It's unbelievably disrespectful to say that. I hope you get kicked outta here soon.

Vizefog

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Quote from: JollyGood on September 25, 2018, 05:23:22 AM

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Yeah, dude, I'm not believe that you just follow all the threads ni23457. This can work if the person first saw this thread, but since I follow it from the beginning, I see you under every message. LOL

Quote from: JollyGood on September 25, 2018, 05:23:22 AM

I think several other projects have been classed as massive scams. The 110 BCH the OP has stolen from these scamming thieves at chnagenow is very bad but it is not the biggest scam.

Your words sound like a child. Ni23457, I recognized you in the style of communication, man. Each message = caution. Very funny. I think the only thing that is worth keeping on distance is your flow of shit about exchange. I'm lost in guesses, what will be the next thread about changenow? You will blame them for the tragedy 11.09.2001?

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Quote from: VOSZ777 on September 24, 2018, 08:02:24 PM

Damn, this is probably the biggest scam in the bitcointalk history. Hope they return your funds fella!

I think several other projects have been classed as massive scams. The 110 BCH the OP has stolen from these scamming thieves at chnagenow is very bad but it is not the biggest scam.

Changenow froze the trade and then blamed it on Changelly saying they asked for ID verification but Changelly denied this in their post yesterday.

Please stay away from changenow, atomic swaps wallet, evercode their associated businesses.

Vizefog

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Quote from: matej krkic on September 25, 2018, 02:49:41 AM

Wow. Just found that this acc is yet another bought by ni23457:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/account-dealers-in-need-of-red-paint-4693722

Lol

Of course, this confirms my conjecture that ni23457 conducts an unfair game. I think I will not be mistaken in assuming that this guy has long been living in this forum under different names, conducting fraud. This is the secret of his unwillingness to show us his wallet. I found an article about the actions of this guy. https://medium.com/@arennathan9/changenow-scam-or-review-how-ni23457-blackmails-the-exchange-978c483ef81a

ni23457, if you consider exchanging illegal - go to court, and do not litter the forum with your cheap "investigations". I found your message

Quote from: ni23457 on September 23, 2018, 06:14:32 AM

Quote from: pirashki on September 23, 2018, 06:09:43 AM

Just got bored of watching some pointless threads.

Pointless? These threads are about stealing of $70 000. How much money did you earn in your entire life?

Oh, you are just their bounty hunter, I found you in the spreadsheet. Unfortunately those people whom you protect do not perceive you as a person https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bounty-now-token-by-changenow-closed-rewards-shipped-4470601

Explain, how could you know what is the last message from Norinma? After all, you do not follow what he writes, and claimed that he has nothing to do with you? Why are you referring to him? It's funny, now prove that it's not you created the thread from ALT, accusing the exchange of postponement of the listing. You are very stupid!!

matej krkic

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Quote from: barrystark on September 16, 2018, 03:43:42 PM

I just saw the advertisement and I just read the whole topic ( The 21 pages) ,one thing is very very supicious to me : Why the OP doesn't want to fulfil the KYC process ?
Seriously,if it was me, I would have sent any document to get this huge amount of money back ...
But I can understand OP, there are a lot of horror stories about stolen documents...

OP : If you think you have done nothing wrong, Go to Russia, if you are powerful, the police will investigate this case seriously
If Changenow is involved in illegal activites, they will be sent to the gulag

Wow. Just found that this acc is yet another bought by ni23457:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/account-dealers-in-need-of-red-paint-4693722

Lol

VOSZ777

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Damn, this is probably the biggest scam in the bitcointalk history. Hope they return your funds fella!

JollyGood

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Quote from: Bazinga442 on September 24, 2018, 12:53:27 PM

Since you are so in love with trust ratings, what do you say about these:

Changenow.io TRUST RATINGS

Polina_ChangeNOW's TRUST RATINGS

Sorry I have certain users on IGNORE so to avoid the nonsense. I saw your reply about people mentioning my trust.

Thank you Wink

Bazinga442

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Quote from: matej krkic on September 21, 2018, 03:56:46 AM

Nobody was interested and nobody (except scammer ni23457 and his shills) will be interested after my post about your trust, scam troll Grin

Wishful thinking or deluded?

Quote from: matej krkic on September 20, 2018, 06:57:09 AM

Let's take a look at JollyGood's trust:

Since you are so in love with trust ratings, what do you say about these:

Changenow.io TRUST RATINGS

Polina_ChangeNOW's TRUST RATINGS

JollyGood

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Quote from: Malam90 on September 24, 2018, 12:01:23 PM

A lot of Scams projects are coming recently to cheat and steal people's valuable investment assets. We should be careful about this. A special thank to you for knowing this project about scam.

These seem to a different type of scam, they seem to operate as legitimate businesses but their aim is to get enough business going then selective scam customers. Everybody needs to be vigilant of these scams.

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A lot of Scams projects are coming recently to cheat and steal people's valuable investment assets. We should be careful about this. A special thank to you for knowing this project about scam.

JollyGood

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Where has Polina_ChangeNOW vanished to?

Nearly 3 months since they scammed the OP they still have not resolved this "issue" that they created when they selective scammed.

They selective scammed the wrong person because he exposed them for the scamming thieves that we all now know.

User44a

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Quote from: User44a on September 17, 2018, 07:10:54 AM

Quote from: User44a on September 14, 2018, 11:46:26 AM

Quote from: Polina_ChangeNOW on September 14, 2018, 11:37:04 AM

As for the refund - we will refund the OP as soon as we have legal grounds for that. We really hope that this situation is resolved as soon as possible.

There is not a single law preventing you from sending the money back to OP unless you are absolutely certain they were involved in a crime. In that case they would have to be turned over to the agency investigating that particular crime and not held by you.
What legal grounds are you talking about? @Polina_ChangeNOW

@Polina_ChangeNOW - Would you mind to take the time and reply, please?

Thank you very much!

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Quote from: OpenCryptoSystem on September 17, 2018, 05:37:08 PM

Quote from: matej krkic on September 17, 2018, 08:30:28 AM

Quote from: OpenCryptoSystem on September 17, 2018, 08:19:09 AM

Lol:D

OP lost 11bch and he still got money to place add about scam warning??
And still have time everyday to chat here?
Looks like this guy has a lot money.

Maybe his some well known business men ?
Who knows lol Cheesy

Maybe he is Donald Trump himself ?

I guess he is connected to voyagerapp scam. After I mentioned here that one of ni23457's shill is closely connected to voyagerapp, their site went down and all the messages in their threads were deleted.

Moreover their scam ico was held in may-june. And the transaction of OP was stopped by changenow in june. So my guess is that they have stopped money of scammed investors.

Quote from: JollyGood on September 17, 2018, 08:28:04 AM

Quote from: matej krkic on September 17, 2018, 08:21:45 AM

> What is stopping you from posting here asking why changenow are not replying to my request?

Hm...Do you ask me? I have no clue why somebody here don't answer your questions. Maybe because of the weekends, maybe because forum is not a messenger and people are not online 24/7 Huh

I am asking why you are not posting to changenow asking them to provide the details requested.

Because you've already done that. You are asking good questions, chenganow representative is answering you, you have a good conversation. Why should I ask the same questions? Grin

Now i undestood OP might be involved in some serious crimes? Like ico exit scam ?
Bitcointalk.org simply not place for criminals !!
Now im scared...im together in same forum with some dangerous money lounder and criminal.
Bitcointalk should be for honest crypto business people only. Criminals should be in jail not here terrorising honest people

You have - 4 negative , you are definitly one of the most dangerous here...

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Few of those who consider OP a hero who "exposed fraudsters," closely followed the course of events. I recall that this "fighter with scammers" sent a fake ID twice, which he tries not to mention, like his shills, which spread nonsense on the Internet. His "investigation" is an empty sound. All information about the exchange is on the Internet, but what we know about OP. NOTHING!!! Who is this mysterious guy who does not want to show at least a transaction?

This is very suspicious for me from the beginning! He could not send a fake, but demand a coin back. But he twice tested the fate, so it is pointless to call the exchange of fraudsters.

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