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Topic: Charlie Shrem, the Vice Chairman of Bitcoin Foundation Arrested (Read 5227 times)

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Seems like they have a pretty good case for money laundering, those emails say a lot.

You mean the ones where Mr. Shrem says they should be okay because they are following the rules?
No, the ones where Shrem is giving advice on how to structure cash deposits to avoid suspicion.
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Hoist the Colours

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25919482

Looks like Mr. Shrem wasn't directly involved in something illegal. He is guilty for not notifying the Gov. about a suspicious buying of coins on bitinstant whatever that means.

He was:
http://rt.com/usa/bitcoin-operator-exchange-arrested-257/
(rt provides a link to the official statement from the justice department)

facing 25 years in a small room with a toilet and a desk (if lucky).

25 years!!!!! and they give child molesters 8 years. What the hell.
legendary
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Sine secretum non libertas
Seems like they have a pretty good case for money laundering, those emails say a lot.

You mean the ones where Mr. Shrem says they should be okay because they are following the rules?
sr. member
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Seems like they have a pretty good case for money laundering, those emails say a lot.
legendary
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imagine charly s. was trading apples. they busted him because:

he traded apples for dollars with someone,

who allegedly sold those apples to others,

who allegedly used apples to score drugs.



the feds are testing levels of support of the bitcoin community. if they get away with this, they own us. every bitcoin can be traced around some corners to silkroad. you are all criminals because some other people like getting high.  Roll Eyes
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Although this news seems bearish at first glance, it's actually quite bullish for bitcoin. The FBI/DEA have drawn the line in the sand and are pursuing folks who are engaging or supporting the sale of illegal drugs using bitcoins. They look at bitcoin as a morally nuetral technology that can have many different purposes, just like the internet. They'll crack down on drug use and bitcoin will look even better once it is less associated with illegal activities.

Right, so point 14. e. of the charges states "Bitcoins are not inherently illegal and have known legitimate uses, but they are also known to be used to facilitate illicit transactions and to launder criminal proceeds, given the ease with which they can be used to move money anonymously."
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Yeah the same thing happed after SR got busted so I guess we're up to da moon, right?

Neither, probably gonna chill here a bit, as we've been doing. Until gox farts its last fart or the chinapocalypse(tm) happens.

When that 30$ bubble popped, it was only one US senator who demanded to shut bitcoin down. Six months falling prices and BTC lost 90%.

Now we are facing multiple armageddons.


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The criminal complaint says that Shrem, in addition to knowing that Faiella's business was funneling money into Silk Road, also used Silk Road himself to buy drugs, including marijuana-infused brownies.

lol charlie, I feel so sorry for you.

If it were cocaine, he would be a reliable businessman.

tststs
legendary
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I think there'll be a few more arrests of this nature to come.

It'll be slightly ironic that some of the biggest holders of Bitcoin have been massively enriched and subsequently come under a level of scrutiny that they never counted on.

I guess back in 2010-11 it would've felt like your own private playground where regular laws didn't particularly matter. They do when your platform starts to go global.
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marijuana-infused brownies.

Wow. That sounds dangerous. What kind of lab does one need to infuse brownies with marijuana?

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The criminal complaint says that Shrem, in addition to knowing that Faiella's business was funneling money into Silk Road, also used Silk Road himself to buy drugs, including marijuana-infused brownies.

lol charlie, I feel so sorry for you.

The children can once again sleep soundly in America.



From the Wired article:

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2014/01/bitcoin-exchangers-arrested/

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Faiella, concerned that BitInstant planned to keep $4,000 he had already deposited to purchase Bitcoins, threatened to contact the feds to report BitInstant. Shrem wrote back threatening to report Faiella for operating an unlicensed money exchange on Silk Road.

But authorities say Shrem then contacted Faiella privately and instructed him in how he could continue to use BitInstant surreptitiously. Although Faiella’s email address was banned from being used to conduct transactions at BitInstant, Shrem told him to simply use a different email address to secretly bypass the ban.

Ouch.
sr. member
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From the Wired article:

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2014/01/bitcoin-exchangers-arrested/

Quote from: Wired
Faiella, concerned that BitInstant planned to keep $4,000 he had already deposited to purchase Bitcoins, threatened to contact the feds to report BitInstant. Shrem wrote back threatening to report Faiella for operating an unlicensed money exchange on Silk Road.

But authorities say Shrem then contacted Faiella privately and instructed him in how he could continue to use BitInstant surreptitiously. Although Faiella’s email address was banned from being used to conduct transactions at BitInstant, Shrem told him to simply use a different email address to secretly bypass the ban.

legendary
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The criminal complaint says that Shrem, in addition to knowing that Faiella's business was funneling money into Silk Road, also used Silk Road himself to buy drugs, including marijuana-infused brownies.

lol charlie, I feel so sorry for you.
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Yeah the same thing happed after SR got busted so I guess we're up to da moon, right?

Neither, probably gonna chill here a bit, as we've been doing. Until gox farts its last fart or the chinapocalypse(tm) happens.
legendary
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Yeah the same thing happed after SR got busted so I guess we're up to da moon, right?

It looks like people aren't ready to make a major move in either direction. I'm sure the TA gurus know where we are headed though!
legendary
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Let me ask you something, why the hell is bitcoin tanking after such an announcement if we have this entire economy behind it?

"Tanking"

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

"GOLD SLAMMED AS IT MOVES $5"

well 10% in a few minutes is pretty serious, even for us.

~6.25%, from which it's recovered to ~1.5%. Yawn.

lol gox.
legendary
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Yeah the same thing happed after SR got busted so I guess we're up to da moon, right?
hero member
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Let me ask you something, why the hell is bitcoin tanking after such an announcement if we have this entire economy behind it?

"Tanking"

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

"GOLD SLAMMED AS IT MOVES $5"

well 10% in a few minutes is pretty serious, even for us.

~6.25%, from which it's recovered to ~1.5%. Yawn.
legendary
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Let me ask you something, why the hell is bitcoin tanking after such an announcement if we have this entire economy behind it?

"Tanking"

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

"GOLD SLAMMED AS IT MOVES $5"

well 10% in a few minutes is pretty serious, even for us.

I can look back less than a month and see bigger moves for no apparent reason.

This thing isn't going to be stable for decades.
legendary
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Marketing manager - GO MP
Let me ask you something, why the hell is bitcoin tanking after such an announcement if we have this entire economy behind it?

"Tanking"

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

"GOLD SLAMMED AS IT MOVES $5"

well 10% in a few minutes is pretty serious, even for us.
hero member
Activity: 1302
Merit: 502
Let me ask you something, why the hell is bitcoin tanking after such an announcement if we have this entire economy behind it?

"Tanking"

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

"GOLD SLAMMED AS IT MOVES $5"
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