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January 25, 2023, 04:22:47 AM
Anonymous matters and the lottery are indeed something that cannot be separated. When a customer wins a lottery at a lottery bet, there are shadows around him stalking him, whether it's a bad person, a relative, maybe even his own family.
back to the topic of the cousin who deceived him, it can be said that it is quite sad with the attitude of his cousin who was entrusted with money, that he deliberately destroyed other people's trust in him, especially regarding money which is sensitive in nature.
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January 25, 2023, 03:59:15 AM
This is really a sad story and the most painful part was the chester was her cousin and this things are really making the world turn soar and it now seems no one is to be trusted.
I'm sure no one can really point fingers at the casino because I'm sure they might paid out all the winnigs to the cheating cousin before making such publications because they should be aware of the consequences of publishing wrong information if they didn't make tye full payout.
I hope this also serves as a lesson to the general public and I didn't click on the link to read the full message as I already got pissed off reading the qouted message already.
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January 25, 2023, 03:29:01 AM
The valuable lesson that can be learned from the story above is that if you want to remain anonymous for your lottery winnings, do it yourself, and don't entrust money-related matters to other people (even if that person is someone close to you)
You can stay anonymous if you're not the one who will personally claim the prize. The risk is, it's hard to trust someone (even your own family) when it comes to money because they can deceive you, just like what happened in this situation. So if you're too concern on your privacy then before you gamble, think of what casino is suited for you to remain anonymous even you happen to win a huge amount.
Well, maybe we just have to choose family members who are honest and can hold the trust we give them.
Beyond that, never give too much trust when it comes to money unless the people we choose really can keep the trust we give.
We can ask the casino to keep our identity as winners secret so we can take the winnings safely.
And the casino can do it for our own safety and they might even help security personnel escort us to our house or directly to the bank to deposit the winnings.
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January 25, 2023, 12:53:19 AM
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The DA’s office said the victim asked Argueta to claim the prize on his behalf to remain anonymous, promising $50,000 of the prize.

Argueta, who lived in Virginia at the time, agreed to claim the prize on the victim’s behalf and drove to New York to receive the winnings.

At the time, though, the New York State Gaming Commission was not accepting winning tickets in person, so Argueta mailed the ticket to the commission on Nov. 13, 202, instead.

Within weeks, Argueta reportedly went to deliver the NYS Lottery paperwork to her cousin, which said the price winnings totaled $20,000. Along with the paperwork, she handed her cousin an envelope with $13,436 in cash, and said the rest was held for taxes.

The victim found a press release from the NYS Lottery website saying Argueta claimed the $1 million prize and received a lump-sum payout of $537,440 after taxes, the DA’s office said.

The DA added that the victim called Argueta, who said she did not have any more money and if continued to call her, she would take legal action. In May 2022, Argueta forfeited $317,857.13 in winnings from her bank account, which were returned to the victim.

[1] https://nypost.com/2023/01/22/texas-woman-pleads-guilty-to-stealing-cousins-1-million-winning-scratch-off-ticket/

The valuable lesson that can be learned from the story above is that if you want to remain anonymous for your lottery winnings, do it yourself, and don't entrust money-related matters to other people (even if that person is someone close to you)

if i were am victim, i will not reconcile with that cheating cousin, unless she returns all my winnings that she has used, how about you?
in real life money is a very dangerous item, money can break family, relatives, close friends. so dealing with big money should be done alone rather than handing it over to friends or relatives, that would be a different story.

I think it's also worth gambling or betting on online gambling when anonymity will be more maintained on online gambling platforms. I mean when betting on online gambling we may be asked for KYC and maybe some people know us or know when we win big but only certain people know and we can take care of it ourselves when there are problems.
it's different from direct gambling, when we bet, many people will see us, and when we win big, many people will know and of course there will be many who claim to be good friends in a nutshell because they know it's big money. so that later there will be many who claim to be relatives or claim to be close friends when holding a lot of money and in the end they will be deceived.

after reading the article above, I wonder why he didn't just take care of it himself instead of having to involve other people and end up being conned. very sad.
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January 24, 2023, 10:32:54 PM
The valuable lesson that can be learned from the story above is that if you want to remain anonymous for your lottery winnings, do it yourself, and don't entrust money-related matters to other people (even if that person is someone close to you)
You can stay anonymous if you're not the one who will personally claim the prize. The risk is, it's hard to trust someone (even your own family) when it comes to money because they can deceive you, just like what happened in this situation. So if you're too concern on your privacy then before you gamble, think of what casino is suited for you to remain anonymous even you happen to win a huge amount.

if i were am victim, i will not reconcile with that cheating cousin, unless she returns all my winnings that she has used, how about you?
Same thoughts. If she will return the money (even 80% of it) I will reconcile to her. I'm also at fault for entrusting my prize to my cousin to claim it on my behalf, just because I want to remain anonymous so i'm also to blame here why i'm in this mess.
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January 24, 2023, 10:32:23 PM
#99
Collect your winnings yourself. Never trust anyone especially when it comes to money because money reveals and individual's true self.
I know it is very risky to collect such huge sum without security, but this is what should be done by any lottery.
Even if the person in this story did not have close friend, i would advise that you should never tell your winnings to anyone.
this is the lesson surely both of them learned the hard way, one is the owner of the money trusting his cousin to take the money for him , and His cousin that become a cheater because being entrusted with the amount.

they will now learn this and never to do the same thing and a very valuable lesson to take , and also for all of us here not only in gambling but in all money matter things.
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January 24, 2023, 09:17:35 PM
#98
One million dollars, really?
Around half of that after taxes.

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Who in the world would ever consider to trust that amount of money to anyone like that?
You cannot blame those who are extremely worried about their security.

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I would have asked the people behind the lottery and the regulators simply not to put my personal information out there (regarding this prize).
Rules and regulations regarding this differ from state to state so you cannot just say that when you're in a jurisdiction where they're allowed to publish your information.

The real winner in the OP bought a ticket in New York and it appears that the state doesn't allow winners to claim anonymously.
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January 24, 2023, 09:05:28 PM
#97
When it comes to money, don't trust anybody no matter how close the person is to you don't trust him or her when you are dealing with money even if the person is your blood. The victim is kind of funny to me, why will you win that huge amount of money then you will send someone to claim the money for you. If am the victim I will never reconcile even if I receive my full payment back, someone that can scam me with that huge amount of money can not be given second chance.
We know who our family members are and which ones we can trust when dealing with money because by frequently communicating with them, we can know the character of each family member. But indeed, when it comes to money, even family members can betray the trust we give. Perhaps the victim was a person who was so afraid to accept money in public that he sent someone who was his family in the hopes of holding onto their trust in administering and receiving payments. But everything happened and I don't think that person can pay the money in full.
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January 24, 2023, 08:13:17 PM
#96
One million dollars, really?
Who in the world would ever consider to trust that amount of money to anyone like that? I would have asked the people behind the lottery and the regulators simply not to put my personal information out there (regarding this prize).

This one of those cases that serves as a reminder, there is only one person who we can trust the bulk of our money to: ourselves. In theory that is why closed source wallets are to be avoided.
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January 24, 2023, 06:58:33 PM
#95

Feel bad for people here that this story leads to them not trusting their own family haha.

I'm glad that I am surrounded by trusted people. Not bragging but I already entrust worth million pesos to my own family when I started to construct and build our own house. That was even in the year when people need money, yes it's 2020 when the pandemic hits the world, and so is our country. But no one in my circle of the family did some sh*t to me even though I'm not focusing on monitoring it but just taking care of the financial part. I know the amount I mentioned is not that much compared to the winnings in this topic but sorry, I do trust my family even if I won a jackpot lottery and ask them to claim it on my behalf.

But seriously, I won't bother to think of that first. I'd rather hope that someday I will win big in a jackpot lottery before thinking that situation where not to trust close relatives in money. That was easy to solve lol.
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January 24, 2023, 06:42:27 PM
#94
When it comes to money, don't trust anybody no matter how close the person is to you don't trust him or her when you are dealing with money even if the person is your blood. The victim is kind of funny to me, why will you win that huge amount of money then you will send someone to claim the money for you. If am the victim I will never reconcile even if I receive my full payment back, someone that can scam me with that huge amount of money can not be given second chance.
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January 24, 2023, 05:56:13 PM
#93
The valuable lesson that can be learned from the story above is that if you want to remain anonymous for your lottery winnings, do it yourself, and don't entrust money-related matters to other people (even if that person is someone close to you)

if i were am victim, i will not reconcile with that cheating cousin, unless she returns all my winnings that she has used, how about you?

I think the victim was dumb and ignorant on two counts:

First, as you yourself said... it is necessary for everyone to place and redeem their own bets.
unfortunately with the bureaucracy and pressure that governments are putting on top of crypto casinos, this is practically impossible to do due to the KYC requirements that sites are required to carry out.

Second.... even in a traditional lottery, there were correct ways to be represented by someone in "security", this would involve a well-drafted and registered contract with a guarantee of goods and strict punishments in case of non-compliance.
Obviously privacy would be affected, but even so it would be restricted to the few people who have the duty to guarantee this secrecy by law.

Anyway, that's why I place low bets, I don't think I'll ever run the risk of winning a big fortune Cheesy
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January 24, 2023, 04:45:02 PM
#92
Collect your winnings yourself. Never trust anyone especially when it comes to money because money reveals and individual's true self.
I know it is very risky to collect such huge sum without security, but this is what should be done by any lottery.
Even if the person in this story did not have close friend, i would advise that you should never tell your winnings to anyone.
You would really got shocked if ever you do see that the ones you had entrusted would just basically the ones who would really be running off those funds which it isnt really that shocking even from those early
times of man where there are ones who are really that cant be able to control their greed for money.

Greed is the main reason on why relations do really wrecked up and there are people who arent really that good on controlling themselves when it comes to this and this is why
its never been that ideal on trusting someone.

We do have different treatment though but this is where people do mostly tend to abuse our kindness and our trust.
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January 24, 2023, 04:13:25 PM
#91
Collect your winnings yourself. Never trust anyone especially when it comes to money because money reveals and individual's true self.
I know it is very risky to collect such huge sum without security, but this is what should be done by any lottery.
Even if the person in this story did not have close friend, i would advise that you should never tell your winnings to anyone.
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January 24, 2023, 04:06:08 PM
#90
I think she deserves her comeuppance. You don't toy with people's trust, let alone a close relative. because that bond can never be topped by any price. Although honestly speaking the victim's at fault here too. not blaming them for trusting a close relative but then again this is millions of dollars in lottery winnings we are talking about.
I agree. It takes a great deal of trust to hand over a substantial quantity of money to another person, particularly after a life-changing event like a lottery victory. Keep in mind that even our closest loved ones might be tempted to put themselves first when it comes to money. The cousin obviously made a big mistake by letting her other cousin collect the reward on her behalf.

It's also worth noting that, in many jurisdictions, lottery winners may choose to remain anonymous if they so want. A trust or limited liability company might be established to receive the award on behalf of the recipient. For people concerned about identity theft and other forms of fraud, this may be a viable solution. If you win a substantial sum of money, you should go to a lawyer or financial expert first to make sure you claim it the right way.
Indeed. When it comes to money, treat everyone as your enemy. That's what it looks like nowadays.
It's my money and I wouldn't entrust that to anybody. I'll claim it and will still remain anonymous despite that concern about anonymity.

When its come to my money, I wouldn't allow anyone to be trusted with it especially if it's a huge amount of money that I've won.

I wouldn't be lazy not to take it and will even be quick to take it.
I can see the victim being at fault in this part of the story so I agree with you. You can never be too trusting of people regardless of blood or whatever affiliation. People nowadays would trade you for a hotdog so you have to really be on the lookout, especially for life-changing events like these.
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January 24, 2023, 04:04:45 PM
#89
I'm glad they managed to resolve this case and the thief got punished.
It's really and unfortunate situation when family members steal from each other. On one hand you're being taught to trust your family because if you can't trust them you've got nothing left, on the other, you should be weary of the dangers and always build trust over time. I don't know how many financial interactions these two had with each other, but I wouldn't trust a family member that doesn't share a strong bond with me with that amount of money. They'd first have to prove themselves with smaller things over time.
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January 24, 2023, 03:50:58 PM
#88


The valuable lesson that can be learned from the story above is that if you want to remain anonymous for your lottery winnings, do it yourself, and don't entrust money-related matters to other people (even if that person is someone close to you)

if i were am victim, i will not reconcile with that cheating cousin, unless she returns all my winnings that she has used, how about you?

You would never believe things like this happen in real-life until you read the news. The initial reaction is shock, then followed by disgust. Because how could you do this to another human. And not just anybody but family. Greed- the love of money has destroyed so many relationships. How can you even start to build trust if there ever is a reconciliation? Well, everyone should be careful out there. Keep your winnings to yourself that's the best way to not become heartbroken.
Once trust is broken then it could never bring things back and this is in fact the reality and its true that there are lots of relationships had been broken down due to greed or trust that had been shattered on which

there are really people who doesnt mind off if ever they would really be breaking someones trust just because of money and its even if your family or relatives.When it comes to jackpot wins and claiming time then

no matter how busy you are then its impossible that you couldn't really be able to allocate some time for you to claim such money? You are just lazy to do so? Its not something
a solid reason for you to skip out.
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January 24, 2023, 01:09:01 PM
#87
Of course, this is cheating, and both parties are going to suffer as both are victims in my opinion.

I mean you trusted your cousin, that is your blood, then later you found out that he cheated on you for whatever reasons. It's really devastated because you don't understand how the hell can he do that to you. You put everything on him, and just because of money, he suddenly change and became a cheater? And probably too that family will not be the same again.
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January 24, 2023, 01:04:37 PM
#86
if i were am victim, i will not reconcile with that cheating cousin, unless she returns all my winnings that she has used, how about you?
If I read the story that your convey, of course your remind l of one of the sayings, which states.
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"Money is like love, it slowly and painfully kills those who hold it, and turns on those who set it on others.

That's money & greed.
If  that lottery win happened to me, my cousin tried to trick me, I would obviously be angry at his behavior, I would prefer if he asked for a few dollars from the lottery win, rather than cheating, of course I was angry with him because he thought I was his brother and didn't respect me.

But from this story, a sentence of 16-48 months, I think, is enough to convict him, because money can be found elsewhere, but he is still a cousin, but in the future, of course, I will consider it. that is if something happens relationship with him again, especially in terms of money.
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January 24, 2023, 12:26:29 PM
#85


The valuable lesson that can be learned from the story above is that if you want to remain anonymous for your lottery winnings, do it yourself, and don't entrust money-related matters to other people (even if that person is someone close to you)

if i were am victim, i will not reconcile with that cheating cousin, unless she returns all my winnings that she has used, how about you?

You would never believe things like this happen in real-life until you read the news. The initial reaction is shock, then followed by disgust. Because how could you do this to another human. And not just anybody but family. Greed- the love of money has destroyed so many relationships. How can you even start to build trust if there ever is a reconciliation? Well, everyone should be careful out there. Keep your winnings to yourself that's the best way to not become heartbroken.
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