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legendary
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April 28, 2017, 12:02:56 PM
#18
Hi everyone

What a bombshell we have right now.

I haven't decided how I am going to present it yet.

But the evidence is really not disputable at all.

Two major kind of cheating going on nitrogen:  super users, and collusion.

Pretty much everyone knew with the weak security that and high stakes that it was inevitable.  And it has happened.

I will show the statistical evidence next week but for now, I will probably take your money out while you can cause when shit hits the fan and I post this thread on 2plus2, it will get very very ugly for nitrogen



Hey,

If you have evidence regarding collusion or multi-accounting in our poker room we would encourage you to share this with our support team ([email protected]). They would appreciate the help and immediately follow up with an investigation of those accounts.

Thanks,
Cal


legendary
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April 28, 2017, 10:03:22 AM
#17
I do not think they cheating - the only problem sites like this have are bots.
If they had bots, I would definitely consider that cheating. Bots always outplay real players in the long run, so it isn't fair.
I do like to see OP's statistical analysis, there's little point in making a thread like this without providing the proof with it.

The fact that it's a newbie account also doesn't promise much good.
hero member
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April 28, 2017, 09:50:47 AM
#16
to be honest I've always wondered why people would play med or high stakes in nitrogen
don't get me wrong , nitrogen is one of the best and most trusted sites when it comes to sportsbetting but their poker room isn't that good and you can easily have a better experience playing at other sites

but so far there is no proof , I will wait for the evidence

Yes. Let's wait for the evidence before we make our own conclusion.

@Red-Apple
can you please elaborate what you say about statistical evidence? I want to understand how this cannot be a good evidence that they are cheating playing customers.

@OP
much better to present the evidence right now. Its hard to accused someone, specially FJ, they have already built a reputation among crypto gamblers.

Just my .2BTC
legendary
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April 28, 2017, 09:24:41 AM
#15
to be honest I've always wondered why people would play med or high stakes in nitrogen
don't get me wrong , nitrogen is one of the best and most trusted sites when it comes to sportsbetting but their poker room isn't that good and you can easily have a better experience playing at other sites

but so far there is no proof , I will wait for the evidence
hero member
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April 28, 2017, 08:16:19 AM
#14
this is the problem that i have been talking about in all the online card games. it is impossible to make them fair, there will always be doubt at the very best about their honesty and whether they are cheating or not. and worst case scenario (the most common also) they are cheating to make more money and there usually is no easy way of proving it.

I will show the statistical evidence next week but for now, I will probably take your money out while you can cause when shit hits the fan and I post this thread on 2plus2, it will get very very ugly for nitrogen

if "statistical evidence" is what i think it is, i have to say it is not much of an evidence! you need hard proof not statistics.
sr. member
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April 28, 2017, 07:19:59 AM
#13
This is some serious allegation against Nitrogen. I think the OP has some serious evidence. But it remains to be seen. But the looks of it, it seems this kind of "cheating" has been going on seen. I haven't played on Nitrogen Poker Room so I really have no idea if they are cheating. Nitrogen credibility and trust are on the line here. So they better be ready to answer all the allegations.
hero member
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April 28, 2017, 06:47:52 AM
#12
I haven't played on the poker rooms of nitrogen, but I don't think they would allow anyone to have superuser and get away with it. It's either someone was able to hack it, because I don't think nitrogen will risk their reputation for this since they have so much users already. Collusion cannot be prevented though, since this is a player related thing.
legendary
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Shuffle.com
April 28, 2017, 12:59:45 AM
#11
If PaypalforBTC is talking about player collusion in Nitrogen's poker tables then yes, I could see it happening.  Even Pokerstars have caught Chinese players colluding and not only that, there are bot rings exploiting the system too.  But super users?  I'm not too sure about that.  If ever someone could prove it, then that would be a disgrace.
I think it's already happening on nitrogen's poker because I sometimes see users crying about it on nitrogen's chat and the other poker player said he was "playing" with his fellow classmates in the same table. There are some users that already reported this kind of problem but i'm not sure if it's already taken care of.
hero member
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April 28, 2017, 12:53:15 AM
#10
Hi everyone

What a bombshell we have right now.

I haven't decided how I am going to present it yet.

But the evidence is really not disputable at all.

Two major kind of cheating going on nitrogen:  super users, and collusion.

Pretty much everyone knew with the weak security that and high stakes that it was inevitable.  And it has happened.

I will show the statistical evidence next week but for now, I will probably take your money out while you can cause when shit hits the fan and I post this thread on 2plus2, it will get very very ugly for nitrogen



hm i think the owner should fix the security and if there is a bug, i think its need attention from the owner because its related with all members in that site. did you trying to contact the owner or their support system? what did they tells you? if the owner really thinking and wants to give the best to their members, i am sure that they will listen suggestion from someone and fix the hole/bug or anything if necessary. i hope this will not happen again in future so we still playing with safe on that site.
legendary
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April 28, 2017, 12:43:16 AM
#9
The fact is - every casino would damage hisself. Easy money if u let everything goes right. No company would risk to be a cheater.
If i would be the company owner i wouldnt risk at all my reputation just on that mistake.It will surely ruin the business.It would really damage his self.For Op theres an Scam accusation thread if you are really serious on showing the bombshell to public.
sr. member
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April 28, 2017, 12:26:28 AM
#8
The fact is - every casino would damage hisself. Easy money if u let everything goes right. No company would risk to be a cheater.
legendary
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Life, Love and Laughter...
April 28, 2017, 12:09:59 AM
#7
If PaypalforBTC is talking about player collusion in Nitrogen's poker tables then yes, I could see it happening.  Even Pokerstars have caught Chinese players colluding and not only that, there are bot rings exploiting the system too.  But super users?  I'm not too sure about that.  If ever someone could prove it, then that would be a disgrace.
sr. member
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April 27, 2017, 11:39:03 PM
#6
I do not think they cheating - the only problem sites like this have are bots.
hero member
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Merit: 502
April 27, 2017, 11:29:06 PM
#5
Happened to me before every hands i have in poker always lose, Even if i get Full House King i still lose with Full House Ace and it happened when we are both raising big amount of bitcoin, When i lost on that hand i just said its ok because it was a nice fight. I always sit in 1 on 1 table.
legendary
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Merit: 1000
April 27, 2017, 10:44:31 PM
#4
Yes, their blackjack and poker are both questionable. I have stopped playing there. There used to be a time someone posted the history of hands, and everytime he lost a hand, the hand history was not visible. But since it wasn't obvious proof it was ignored on the forum.
hero member
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newbie
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April 27, 2017, 04:36:18 PM
#2
Also.. a little advice for now. If you do continue to play in the poker room, stay away from those sitting alone in the 2/4+ PLO Games.

Very sad that a legit book has to resort to this.
newbie
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Merit: 0
April 27, 2017, 04:20:54 PM
#1
Hi everyone

What a bombshell we have right now.

I haven't decided how I am going to present it yet.

But the evidence is really not disputable at all.

Two major kind of cheating going on nitrogen:  super users, and collusion.

Pretty much everyone knew with the weak security that and high stakes that it was inevitable.  And it has happened.

I will show the statistical evidence next week but for now, I will probably take your money out while you can cause when shit hits the fan and I post this thread on 2plus2, it will get very very ugly for nitrogen

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