Topic: Cheating thru using dual of account in signature campaign (Read 1395 times)

I partially agree with you. But you have to understand that if a person finds dirt on hua_hui, hua_hui should in this case provide reverse evidence. He didn't. But overall, hua_hui is a very good Manager and it is very frustrating to see when people with this status are engaged in fraud. I still can't believe it...

no worry about the fishcoin. the same thing happened for policypal network twitter campaign. i was also given the stakes but i removed my stakes when i do the checking before i submitted to the dev team. the first line is usually just a trial entry by the way to test the form. Stakes was auto given by the bots and double check has not yet been done. you can see that those tagged in the signature campaign has not yet been updated too.

in addition, someone added a lot of fakes followers to my account so my account dont pass the twitteraudit even though i have done some clean up. you can also see that the number of followers does not tally. and i do not take part in any twitter bounty by the way.

I am actually impressed by the amount of alts one user can actively use, I am even more impressed about the time one single person has to dedicate to post in the forum and fulfil the weekly bounty requirements.
Do not forget about twitter and other media!

Wait...


hua_hui will receive full stakes even if not a single report has been submitted.
No retweets can be seen here: https://twitter.com/Namelessname1
Unless he/she deleted all his/her reports and retweets before stakes are distributed (which would grant zero tokens).
I'd love to check the other alts / other campaigns.

I would have to say 95% of the time, using the same wallet address directly or indirectly indicate a singular bounty hunters using multiple identity. So having the same wallet address is usually highly suspected as abusing bounties.

It is also similar to buying or accounts. Buying and selling of accounts does not go against the law but it is deem not appropriate behaviour in bitcointalk so that is why it is these account got red trusts.


Not trying to defend for myself but in my real life,
- I use the same bank account as my mother and another bank account with my wife. The jointed bank account with my mother is created since when i was young and because it is so integrate to my life, it is quite hard not to use this account. In fact, i try to go to bank to request the removal of my mother but the bank say cant. On the other hand, my bank account with my wife is for certain purpose, and i also do have bank account on my own.
- Salaries credited to one account? Yes and no. When i am only having a main job, of course yes cause of standard catered super salary program which even the companies also taking it up. After i got diff sources of income, i do have different account for different income.
- Not for me but yes for some of the people who is more financial savy in my country. There is a government scheme that allows us to top up our parent 'government fund' and as such able to gain the interest from there. So i do know of some financial advisors do suggest to park $$ in parents fund.

Do you use the same bank account as your wife, family or friends?
Do you receive all your salaries to one account?
Do you hold your money in your fathers/mothers/wifes/childs/friends/cousins/uncles/whatever wallet?

Yes, that's also my thinking, especially if they're related to one another, like husband and wife, or any member of a family... it's common they're using same address. Don't know if there's written forum rule here that prohibits using same wallet address.

I see that marlboroza and don hilary's alt are earning their positions on DT2 by doing right for this community. kudos guys. I might tag you both with some green if you keep at what you are doing. I am sincerely thankful to you both.

That is correct.

I see 3 groups here. One is account misterbigg and his alt accounts, second is account hawkings and his alt accounts and third is you and your alt accounts.

You are linked to accounts lorrylore, namelessname and few other accounts, you abused your own bounty campaign and probably more bounties(I didn't look into this...yet.).

According to what ACVinegar post, I believe misterbigg is not link to me.

If i can generate so much money from bounty, i wont be working as bounty manager. However, I would really love to learn from you on how to scout these people out cause there are times i do have my suspicious on participants but i dont have enough proof to ban them. Overall, we are always worried that people will go fud the ico for mistakes like these.

I am just aware of this thread because of the red trust. Thanks for highlighting it to me.

I would like to do my own clarification.  First i would like to inform more about this company called Blockfolks.
Blockfolks "provides professional community engagement and other high value services for blockchain projects. As cryptocurrency investors ourselves, we know that maintaining investor confidence is crucial to the success of any project.
We have immense experience with multiple aspects of the ICO market, ranging from community management to marketing and even blockchain development. With our community management service alone, you can remove the need to train experienced community leaders from scratch entirely and leave your public relations in the hands of qualified and trained community leaders." (quote from their website)
- You can go to https://blockfolks.com/ to find out more details about Blockfolks.
- Evidence of work: If you were in one of their project's telegram, you can see that Blockfolks is having a team running the telegram community management of ICO projects on 24/7.
- They have a physical office and they can be reached through different media to meet up.
- Reputable ICOs had done their due diligence so to having these ICO on their website as projects shows a lot about the company.

Having said that, this is my stories come in.
I am just a normal member in bitcointalk who just happen to get into bitcoin early. I was mainly joining btc signature campaign to earn some btc along the way as i surf bitcointalk for information. There was not a lot of place with bitcoin information during years ago. It was last year 2017 around mid, that i got to know of more crypto enthu through telegram. A handful of them eventually setup their own company and became known as Blockfolks. They are the one who convince me to get into alt coin. I started with
0x9b7b46e87708ab66ab917129fc109b5f9ea313f0 and then subsequently my 2nd eth add is 0x5829AFDc06EA5de1364B3c43367562BA67ed83ad.

However, things start to change when I was engaged by Blockfolks to help out with ICO projects. So I was supposedly to be paid but i would also need to pay a % of commission back to Blockfolks. I did learnt from some practices here that you can get some loans in return of giving them the signature payout. So instead of having to fork out a portion of my payment, I discuss with Blockfolks and they agreed to accept tokens as payment if i overpaid them. That time, iirc spectre signature campaign is by fixed payment (not staking) so i told them how much worth of tokens they would get and by when. I registered my spectre.ai with my 0x5829AFDc06EA5de1364B3c43367562BA67ed83ad and halfway through, i gave Blockfolks this eth add along with its private key. All the evidence should support my statement, like
- the timing i join spectre
- the timing i get my first bounty project management
- the projects that i managed is also projects shown in blockfolks website.
So subsequently, i no longer have controlled over 0x5829AFDc06EA5de1364B3c43367562BA67ed83ad. It is all belong to Blockfolks now. I am still owning my original eth add.


As for lorylore, he has been my acquaintance and i am one to recommend him to get into bitcointalk. I do recommend a few people to get into bitcoin + bitcointalk but none of them made it for long except for him. However, despite saying so, we are not close and we hardly interact for years. It was only recently whereby i reach out to him for job offers. Having tied to Blockfolks, I am discourage to take up offers from another companies. I introduce him to https://icomms.tech/ (who approach me) to help them manage their bounties. As you can see, his topics created are bounties for ICO that tallies with the website projects. In order to make a profit out of this referral, i charge lorylore and of course, he would choose the method of using signature campaign to repay me and that is why he registered with my eth add. I remembered i took quite an effort to convince him to try out alt coin bounty. The timing when he switch from btc signature (iirc it is from a casino btc signature) to alt coin sgianture (for repayment of my commission) times nicely with the start of his project bounty management. And it is quite distinct of how the different structure of the two companies ran their ico services. (mine is alt coin bounty with signature + twitter while iirc, his is mainly btc signature + airdrop)

As for why lorylore join the PolicyPal campaign with Blockfolks eth add, I have no idea what arrange they have but i also have no right to ask them so. All i check is that lorylore did put on the signature code and post the necessary amount of post each week. We did not communicate after the referral and receiving my appcoins tokens for my commission.

It seems there is major shenanigans going on here.

Fishcoin (lol) bounty:



All vortexz, bgibso01, kosaet, Scooby903 and misterbigg have been linked together and tagged by Lauda (see feedback). They're all permabanned for some reason as well apart from vortexz and Scooby903:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/kosaet-260222 kosaet
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/misterbigg-25463 misterbigg
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bgibso01-150231 bgibso01
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/vortexz-100941     vortexz
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/scooby903-97501     Scooby903


misterbigg was linked to hua_hui by ACVinegar above and lorylore is linked to hua_hai by marlboroza above. It wouldn't surprise me if most of the accounts on his campaigns are alts of his and I'm sure more can be found via addresses if anyone wants to look into that.


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More abuses from fishcoin:

The user hawkins is tied to several others here:


Icecube45 is linked to a few other accounts via TwitchySeal's feedback:

Not sure why the accounts haven't been tagged yet. I went ahead and negged hua_hui and all his other accounts. This is definitely not something that should be condoned, especially when one has a rule against it.

What a shitshow.

These users should probably be looked into further. It's probably only the tip of the Iceberg to be honest and I'm sure there more shenanigans going on with hua_hui's campaigns, not to mention they are very badly run full of spammers and bots etc. The account is linked to a few more below and one that has seemingly not paid loans:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/huahui-332981

Lol..this guy deserves negative trust.

Original account Aderiho Bitjones with wallet address of 17jivibLT1RnzHxZY9AeAVBUPccZTfwAEV was joined in "CellBlocks SIG and Avatar Campaign" together with their alt accounts coinbitrade with wallet address of 176TBB3BKDfxLcE55GUaFpNUKAhuSSnQyw

As reference it was reported for many times but still, they were allowed to join in signature campaign and they cannot get any sanction or negative trust. Proof that this is reported were shown on those link below:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32429312

High rank isn't the problem, if you go around this forum you can see there are so many Legendary accounts tagged. Maybe DT member or Mod are waiting for something or trying to catch a big fish ). Maybe there are still more account related to these accounts and they're working to find them out.

Woah, that is clear evidence against him and his alt account joining in one signature campaign and the sad thing he is abused his profession being a manager how could it be.

Then I saw also he did not have a negative trust, it looks like unfair to others here, that's not a good example especially for other members that newcomers here. I keep my eyes open on this if what will be the reactions other DT members. Let's wait.

Why these accounts still no red tagged it is because of their ranked? If these account is low rank i think it was easy to tagged as bounty cheater right! It is obvious that this user violates the rules of this forum but still he can continue his shady work because the account is still clean.

Of course, I didn't mean you create this topic to destroy these accounts, I'm also trying to find out cheater in this forum. I mean other lower rank accounts are trying to apply in the same bounty campaign with the same ETH address with other higher rank accounts did it. Don't worry, If hilarious confirmed that they're alts, I think no need to discuss about this case anymore ). Cause these alts account will be tagged soon.