Topic: Check out RainbowKun's article to see if forums really need depth knowledge. - page 2. (Read 1075 times)

his thoughts aim around many posts of
"what if there was another bretton woods" to then launch his narrative into bitcoin being a "one world currency" replacing not just all fiats. but also all governments.

but one deep thought he has missed
governments only done bretton woods for their own selfish need to gaining power..
they didnt do it for the betterment of citizens. nor did they do it to make them less powerful

no government would make a law that would make them jobless

so yea, in the end rainbow needs to learn more about what bitcoin is, does and can do. without venturing into the philosophical, dreamstate of wishful thinking

• Philosophy always seems to be able to inspire thinking and open a deeper level of wisdom. Seeing your explanation, I seem to be more looking forward to the content he will publish later, although I personally think his content is ideal and does not reflect reality.
• I also look forward to seeing more views about him, which will give birth to more different views.
  In history, various countries are looking for different ways to apply to their own country's development and reform. They are all born out of discussion and debate. The way to verify the future is to create a new world in continuous thinking ~ debate ~ practice.

RainbowKun's topics are looong. They are interesting but not to everyone's taste. The average forum user wouldn't know what to respond after reading one of his articles. I read the first two pieces that were recommended in OP. They are very philosophical and contain an abundance of facts and figures. Although a lot of what he says is his own thinking and point of view, I noticed he doesn't link to any sources or references that would explain the dates facts he. At least not in the 2 threads I read. I am not accusing RainbowKun of anything and it would be a shame if he left or was forced to leave.

@RainbowKun
If you are writing all that from your own memory, congratulations to you. If not, please consider adding some references because there is a lot of data there.   

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The Btcvilla guy seems to make headlines everywhere he goes. I see that you you noticed him as well.

Check out these gems of his from the other day:

The 2nd part came soon after:

rainbowkun has atleast shown that he has put some thought into his articles before writing it. but its more philosophical rather than matter of fact.

more "bitcoin should be a one world reserve currency" in about 5 posts i seen of his. as one example of his mindset.

you can tell he has put some sitting back and thinking time, and then some time to write them. but as a newbie he has still alot to learn about bitcoin.
i have corrected a few misconceptions he has made and he has adapted a few things. but he is still in the learning process.

nothing wrong with opinion pieces of philosophy. but trying to write them out as if they are bitcoin matter of facts is a different story. he is still too early in his learning to be trying 'matter of fact' stuff

he is getting there. and i probably would give him merit in future. but just parts of his articles still rub me the wrong way and remind me that he is still a newbie. so not yet at a point of winning merit.
(one article said bitcoin first, blockchain second. .. another article said the opposite way round.. another article said its a database. ..  i had to correct him by saying its a ledger not a database. as ledgers have more meaning and better definition of structure and function)
there are other examples where he still does not get the full concept of bitcoin, and just seems too philosophical like he is trying to hype promote bitcoin to newbies without realising for people to be on this forum they have already been though the promotion part to have found and joined the forum.

i have nothing against the deep thought stuff. and its this that makes me half want to award him merit as its surprising to come from a newbie. but he still lacks something which just ends up with me holding back from awarding merit.

nothing against anyone giving merit to him for the little snippits of detail he does get right. but overall. still not always all right as a whole post. so he has some more learning to do.

i think he needs to spend a couple more months asking questions before making posts pretending to give answers. .. he just isnt quite yet there to be giving out 'matter of fact' style articles.

You're doing fine...

It seems like it can only help?
People are discussing on the threads, which is a good sign.
There are probably more kinds of styles possible, but it seems successful as is.

You are right, I actually planned to add two positive options at first, but in order to avoid promotion suspicion, I only added two neutral options.

The question itself is not to discuss the quality of RainbowKUN’s posts, but to discuss whether the forum requires in-depth knowledge through this matter.

But thank you for your reminder, based on your suggestions. I might add a positive option.

So you are a big man hidden behind the novice account?

That is to say you are developing a project? wow, will you do it on bitcointalk? Do I have the opportunity to participate in private sale or donate?

Yes, according to my observation, many newbies now only post their own questions, and when others reply and answer them, they get no response, or even a thanks. It’s always good to have your own independent thinking.

Looking forward to your new article.

• 1.After reading such a long article, I was sweating and felt that if I didn't take notes, I would forget it after reading it. There are too many theoretical things. I think a lot of what he said is right. He has strong writing skills, strong logic, and very provocative articles. Maybe he has published books, but I always think he is very idealistic.
• 2.I think who he is and what he does, whether he has made any achievements in the blockchain industry, is not very important, and there is no crown to enter the forum and allow us to read his thoughts. I think it is more valuable. He said that the super-sovereign currency, I am very excited after reading it, if it is realized, it is really Bitcoin that has changed the world.
• 3.I think logical imagination is wonderful, but the most wonderful thing is to give practice. This is causality. I really want to see what he has to do besides writing articles, and then see if what he did is in line with his ideas.
  I am a realist, but I really like articles that give me room for imagination.

There is also a very important point.I think that many readers of the forum have limited cognitive abilities, and they are not uninterested in his articles, but they have not yet reached the ability to fully understand his ideas.

I am a newcomer, I don’t feel like you, I just feel that my knowledge reserve is too little, and there are too many posts in the forum, so I don’t know how to start, I can only read some fresh posts, so I still get a lot of rewards. I feel that my cognition has improved a lot after reading, but if you ask me where I have improved, but I have no good reason. Perhaps the author's text is more concise and better, or some realistic examples are given. Does everyone feel the same? Looking forward to seeing the author's specific experiences and stories.

First of all, I would like to thank MV1986 and kxwhalexk for recommending my article, and also to ETFbitcoin, Lucius, The Pharmacist, Poker Player, mk4, lovesmayfamilis, Aliceooo78, Charles-Tim, kaggie, these friends for discussing this post. My energy this month has basically been devoted to writing articles. I really didn't expect that I would be discussed here today. At the same time, the number of merits I currently have is really limited, and I can only express my gratitude with one merit per person. Because of my limited energy, I still continue to write articles, and I will not reply to others one by one. I mainly make a collective reply in this reply from kaggie.



First of all, thank you kaggie, your writing skills are really good. Through your rewriting, the readability of this text has improved a lot, you are very good. Here I will also explain my personal situation. Because my mother tongue is not English, I usually write out the ideas I want to express in my mother tongue first, and then translate them into English. Some thoughts may be lost in the process of translation. I am now working hard to improve my English level, as much as possible so that the thought of the article is not lost in the process of translation. At the same time, in the follow-up, I will also improve my typesetting ability and try my best to improve the readability of the article by optimizing the typesetting.




Thank you very much kaggie for raising these questions. I will summarize and reply to these questions raised by kaggie. In fact, many answers have been included in my previous articles. For more details, please see my first article published on July 1:  Bitcoin is not just a currency, but represents a new human civilization.

1. First of all, I am a newbie on the bicointalk forum, but not a newbie on the blockchain. I have very rich experience in the blockchain industry, and I also have a high reputation in our homeland. I used to be a community leader of a community-based exchange. At that time, we were Binance’s biggest competitor. This project is world-famous. But because of some reasons from the founder of the project, we failed in the process of competing with Binance. At the right time in the future, I will tell the story that happened that year.

2. For the past four years, I have been doing deep learning on Bitcoin. As I learn more about Bitcoin, the more I feel the greatness of Bitcoin. In my opinion, Bitcoin is definitely not just a technology or a currency. Bitcoin represents a brand new thought. When the thought of ​​Bitcoin continues to spread around the world, Bitcoin will create a new kind of human civilization. This is my most basic view of Bitcoin. In the process of learning about Bitcoin, I gradually became a true believer of Bitcoin.

3. I think Bitcoin will create a new kind of human civilization, which covers knowledge of almost all human subjects, not only computer science, mathematics, economics, monetary science, game theory, psychology, law, but also physics , Chemistry, sociology, anthropology, etc., and even religion and philosophy. For the past four years, I have been trying to understand Bitcoin's transformation of human society from different disciplines. Because of this, I say that Bitcoin will create a new kind of human civilization. At that time, my thinking was fragmented. Many thoughts were forgotten in the blink of an eye. Therefore, I decided to record all these thoughts, form words, and output them in the form of articles. Such fragmented information can form systematic knowledge.

4. There are more and more Bitcoin believers all over the world. They are constantly preaching for Bitcoin, especially the Bitcointalk forum, which has gathered the most Bitcoin believers in the world. However, at present, everyone's research on Bitcoin is still limited to the fields of technology and currency, and rarely involves the fields of social science, culture, philosophy, and even religion. The articles I am writing now are mainly to trigger some thinking outside of Bitcoin technology. These philosophical thoughts are more of my judgments on the future development of Bitcoin. They are fundamentally different from technical articles. The technicality must be accurate, without any ambiguity. And the thinking of these philosophical articles will never have a standard answer. People with different knowledge backgrounds must understand differently. But whether there is a standard answer or not, let me first put forward the things that may happen in the future. You can express your opinions on the basis of these questions.

5. Every time I write an article, I try to put forward an independent point of view as much as possible, and then describe my thinking process of this point of view, and finally draw my conclusions. As a result, the number of words in each of my articles will be very large, and even many places appear very verbose, forming a wall of words. As a result, most people have no patience to read all the text, and feel that these are nonsense and worthless. But as far as I am concerned, I still find it very valuable. Because every article records the process of my independent thinking. I am not simply making a conclusion. It is very simple to come up with a conclusion. The most important thing is that I recorded the process of reaching this conclusion. When these articles meet people who are really interested in them, they will read the process of drawing conclusions and compare them with their own conclusions. Finally, I was inspired in the process of communication. At the same time, and more importantly, I will carefully read the information that everyone responds, and improve my conclusions through everyone's feedback, and ultimately improve my own knowledge system.

6. I know that these articles of mine will not be welcomed by most people. Because they have a lot of words, they are even very verbose, and some parts require deep thinking, and most people can't even read them. But I think these are not important. Writing these articles, the first thing I learned the most was myself. I let the fragmented information form a systematic knowledge, so that my own knowledge system has been substantially improved. At the same time, I firmly believe that these articles of mine are very vital. They don’t lose value as quickly as news. Most of my articles are predictions about the future of Bitcoin, and many of them are my philosophical thinking. Five years later, even ten years later, people will still see them and get inspiration from them. Therefore, I wrote them down today and let them serve as historical witnesses to the development of Bitcoin. At the same time, these views will definitely be opposed by many people, because everyone's knowledge reserves are different, and their understanding of the future of Bitcoin must be different. There is no standard answer here. I believe that 10 years from now, history will give some comments on these articles.

7. Why is my writing frequency so high? I have produced more than 20 independent articles throughout July. Because I have very limited time now. In a month, I will devote all my energy to the DAO and DeFi project that I have been preparing for more than three years. At present, throughout July or even August, during these two months, all my energy has been devoted to the writing of the article. Writing an independent opinion article a day is really a very big challenge for me. It consumes almost all of my time and energy every day. But if I don't record all my views on Bitcoin in these two months, when my project really starts, I won't have any energy to continue writing articles. So I gave up all other work in the past two months and only focused on deep thinking about Bitcoin. Write as much text as possible to record my understanding of Bitcoin. Time is really precious to me.

8. I came to bitcointalk to write,  I never asked for merit. I didn't even know the role of merit at the beginning. I don't need to make money through merit. I am not short of money myself. At the same time, I personally own the world's top blockchain development team, and they are all very good development engineers. I have many ways to make money in the crypto world. In the past month, my daily rhythm was basically writing, publishing, and then replying to some posts. This takes up almost all of my energy. I currently don't have any extra energy to read posts or rules in other sections of the forum. I just want to do my best to record all my thoughts on these bitcoins and output them. Of course, in this process, I will also meet many like-minded friends. By then, if you want to participate in my project together, you are also welcome to give me various suggestions. Because I believe that the crypto world must be community-based, and we need to rely on the power of the community to build together.

9. Each of my articles has its own logic, but they combine to form a more complete logic. Everything is to show that Bitcoin will build a new human civilization. And my future career will also revolve around this point. Give all my energy to Bitcoin. This is my core philosophy. In the future, I will also combine these articles into a book, which will be published by a publishing house, translated into different languages, and distributed in different countries. I hope that every ordinary person can understand these words written by me. This is also the reason why the text is often verbose. I try to use as detailed text as possible to explain the process of drawing a conclusion, so that in the future even people with very limited knowledge can understand what I want to express. This is part of my sermon on Bitcoin.

Finally, thank you again for all your friends’ suggestions, whether it is encouraging establishment or critical suggestions, I accept them humbly. Because of continuous communication with everyone, my own cognitive level has also improved significantly. This is the greatest wealth that these writings have brought to me. Thanks again!

I see RainbowKun's posts and topics on the forum. The user is very productive to make topics and they are usually very wordy. I see the user spent time for topics and put efforts into them.

Many smerits were sent to RainbowKun's topics and posts but it does not a mark that those topics are high quality. Sometimes merit sources need to empty their sources and they can sent smerits more than usual as well as sending to give new members motivation to keep up good contributions.

Good contributions don't mean high quality.

Rainbowkun is good poster his thread are really helpful to anyone here in forum I read some post of rainbowkun and I really amaze of his articles so I suggest to give him a merit cause his thread is meritable thread

This topic is a little bit biased..

Three poll options are about possible negative qualities of the articles, whilst the other three are about how the forum or reader supposedly sucks. Where's the neutral or good options?

The title, "to see if forums really need depth knowledge", presents the assumption that these articles are comprehensive.
The poll options seem to put the blame more on the user, rather than the quality of these articles. There aren't a directly positive or directly negative poll options, like they could be if they were
"I have read these articles, and find them informative or thought inspiring"
"I have read these articles, and found them to not be interesting"
or
"The ideas are very original, and well written"
"The ideas are very original, but poorly presented"

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The titles of the articles are very interesting.  
It seems like it would read well as a book that I could give to someone, with a few edits.
It is solid as a base layer introduction to themes, and it must take time to construct these.
But as a forum post that's meant to inspire discussion, in what looks to be more hardcore bitcoin forum,
I find the articles to be a bit wordy with more room for exploration and improved clarity.

Let's take the "what is game theory?" post.
When I read the original
I feel like I never got the definition of what game theory was. It's there, but it's in the 'Briefly,' sentence that appears near the end after reading wordy lines.
I feel cheated when I read 'Briefly,' after reading a paragraph. Small tweaks in the writing style would help a lot to clarify the messages. To demonstrate, I've used those sentences, shortened and reorganized, and feel much more satisfied by the end:
Much better?
I feel this way when reading a lot of this author.

I feel cheated when I read the writing because I want the rest of the thought or implications closer to a point.

But perhaps the reason I feel that is because I don't understand vantage point of the author compared with the audience,
keeping in mind that the audience is forum members with a probable high degree of knowledge, considering
that they took the time to make an account on a very specialised forum..

Since I don't have a feel for who the writer is, I don't feel that I can appropriately judge the work
and the motivation. Is it a person new, intermediate, or expert to bitcoin? It lacks the emotion of a newb, the deep twists of an expert, and
presents a very sterile intermediate view. So, what's the angle? Is it to promote bitcoin? Is it excitement about what crypto can do? Is it genuine belief?
I hope it's genuine belief. I also tend to view everything on this forum as mildly suspicious, so that colors my views..
I feel confused as to whether it's someone who is genuinely learning who will do well, especially with more experience and practise,
where dialogue would help them improve? Or is it someone who will one day pop out to turn around and sell something, because the topics are very regular with a lot of time put into them,
so it seems out of place to have a pure hobbyist write so frequently? Because I don't have a grasp of the person's motivation, I don't know how to respond and don't engage.

So, RainbowKun, if you are reading this, I hope you to continue. You've got a lot of potential there, but think about how you might change the presentation?
Perhaps you can delve deeper into specific sub-themes in your topics. Some of the themes within your writing are presented only briefly that an ordinary person may be
unfamiliar with, so you can take time to explain some of that as well. Maybe even consider writing a book, but get some friends to review it for things that you can clarify further?

I hope that my writing here is genuinely helpful here. I try not to be so critical unless I think it can help..

I remember when I joined, I mainly post on two boards, 'Bitcoin discussion' and 'Beginners and help'. It was kind of psychologically taken by me which I believed same to most newbies. If I did not go deeper to study and know more about bitcoin, I might not have started posting on other boards. Also the newbies that later become stale members but bounty hunters will like the old way, they will like to post where they were posting before. If you check many of the threads on those two boards, maybe the first page discouraged you, but the third and so on pages will more discouraged you as it will be full of bounty hunters posts which are of low quality. What I usually do is to read only good poster's contents there and also correcting some OP posts. I have noticed checking every boards on this forum is not easy, this can lead to some good active posters to ignor some boards full of low quality posts of the newbies and bounty hunters to focus on boards full of quality posters.

Yes, I know you "Just a Bitcoin geek" , you should have your favorite part-Development & Technical Discussion.

I think the advantages of this matter outweigh the disadvantages. This allows members who are only active in a specific section to have the opportunity to see good posts in other sections.

I only recently learned that there is such a topic, I like this very much, it can save my time and help me find high-quality posts

This is also the reason for the existence of [Self-moderated] Report Unmerited Good Posts to Merit Source., saving us time , Recommend to others for high-quality posts (at least higher quality than most posts)

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lol, yes. There is also such a saying in my country, the fragrance of wine is not afraid of deep alleys.But there is another saying that you can’t see through the flesh through the skin.

Yes, you are right, in addition to good content, we also need some typesetting skills.It took me a few hours to master the various posting formats in bitcointalk.Maybe RainbowKUN still needs to learn in this part.

[moderator's note: consecutive posts merged]

It's good that you post in that section, because you make good posts and that adds to the quality of Bitcoin Discussion--and I am by no means criticizing you for doing so, so hopefully my post didn't come off that way.  

I'll admit that I do, on occasion, un-ignore Bitcoin Discussion when there don't seem to be many interesting threads in my feed, so it's not like I never visit it.  In fact, I created a thread in BD not too long ago, which you probably saw if you're a regular there.  In fact, I gave out merits to most of the members who posted in it.  

As I said, I don't like ignoring Bitcoin Discussion (and Altcoin Discussion as well, since I do like reading about altcoins).  It should be kept clean as far as low-quality posts, but it isn't and we all know it.  It ought to be a section that no one would even want to ignore, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who has it on ignore.  I think it's probably improved since the inception of the merit system, but it's still got a cockroach problem if you know what I mean.

Edit:  I just un-ignored Bitcoin Discussion and picked a thread I thought might be interesting, one about bitcoin in movies.  In the last 3 pages or so, there were these absolute crap posts:

And this is the type of stuff I'm talking about when I say the section is infested with shitposters.

Runner up from another thread:

I will answer honestly that I chose point 1, although answers 2,5,6 may also be suitable here.
For fun reading, you need a design. I think this is convenient for many. And reading walls of texts, albeit very worthy ones, take a lot of time, and energy.
And let's be fair, no matter how much he received merits in one day, I am more than sure that only a few have read his posts thoroughly. I'm not sure if the sources of merit are giving out the merit after reading all the texts. He can be respected for his diligence, but reading is very exhausting. And the fact that they reacted so much yesterday with a lot of merits does not mean that they did not notice this author before.
You know, there is a good expression that sounds like "a good product does not need advertising."

I may or may not have saw one(or a few) of his articles, and if I did, it's highly likely that I skipped through them. There's just this thing with me in the past that every time I actually spend time and focus on reading a decently long topic, I mostly get disappointed in the end. I mean, there are just so much topics that are made long in purpose just for it to hopefully look more "high quality" or something. You know, merit hunters.

But yea, will check him out.

I think the same.

I believe that user RainbowKun is making a positive contribution to the forum and was probably being undermerited.

But I also don't share the OP's enthusiasm for his posts. I had seen some and what I see is that, maybe they are too long for a forum and to me in general they don't tell me things that I don't already know.

Quantity of very long posts does not equal quality, although I understand that he is a decent poster and may be evolving in the forum and getting more and more merits.

Of course, there is no obligation on your part to visit certain parts of the forum, but I have always thought that it is bad to ignore, in my opinion, very important parts of the forum, such as the Bitcoin Discussion board. Regardless of your belief that there is too much garbage and spam, I regularly read, post and report anything I think is bad or against forum rules. It may not mean much, but it makes more sense to me than the option to ignore the whole board.


If someone opens 30 threads in 30 days, and they are all supposedly very high quality, how is it possible to get only 17 merits - does this mean that most merit sources have that board on ignore? I just want to say that it would be more natural for merits sources to find posts worth merits, than to draw their attention to them in this way. Although I understand that people value their time more than anything else.

That's what that thread is for, and it's one of my favorites.

I don't think I've read any of RainbowKun's posts, because they're apparently all in Bitcoin Discussion which I have on ignore (because of all the spam threads and posts).  No doubt if he'd posted those interesting threads in Economics, I'd have merited them.

Merit sources are just members who've (sometimes) volunteered to be distributors of merit, and they have no obligation to keep any sections un-ignored if they so choose.  I assume that's what you meant in your above statement, though it wasn't entirely clear what "being influenced in this way" was referring to.  As I said above, I've got Bitcoin Discussion on ignore, and that's just one section of many.  There's too much garbage in too many sections to keep looking at new threads popping up in my unread threads feed that I know I'm not going to read.  Believe me, I'd love to not have to ignore Bitcoin Discussion--it should be the most interesting and important section on bitcointalk, but the reality is that it isn't and hasn't been for years.

Lol.  Excellent point.