Topic: Chess + Crypto - page 2. (Read 2985 times)

There is a way to circumnavigate around the cheating issue: Let 'em!

If Crypto-chess-coins is going to dole out coins based on some exponential growth system, then along with each game getting harder and harder to play, assuming one is playing against a computer which Ccc controls, Ccc will also control the clock as to how long it'll take before it makes its next move against each and every "miner". Thus, it doesn't matter how long it'll take for a miner to make s/he's move.

The onus will then be on the miners to obtain the best chess program available to garner more wins over time. At some point, when such is more difficult to obtain, more powerful chess programs will need to be created. Imagine, in the future ordering said programs/systems/rigs from Rook Labs or Bishop Studios or Knight Mills or Queens with Clubs.

Who knows! At the end of the day some über-chess program my be devised that wouldn't have been created earlier due to the advent of Crypto-chess-coins.

Now, one's able to envision Solitaire Coin, Backgammon Coin, or even Puzzle Coin, all pegged against a computer opponent with a dual difficulty component incorporated, adjusted depending on the payout schedule.

During the penning of the last paragraph, I envisioned something pertaining to Puzzle Coin, but I see that http://puzzlecoin.com/ is already taken, but from the looks of the site, it could easily be re-branded.

Picture sometime like below that has to be solved via moving the pieces into place, then rewarded once completed. See the beauty of the example? Advertiser's logos (with generated links once solved, then also emailed) are the puzzles.

Red bulls?

5 computers and a Red Bull?
The most I would ever need would be 3 or 4.

I really like the idea of integrating online games with bitcoin. As others have said, it absolutely needs to be cheat-proof, so chess is sort of out of the question. Also, why do you need to mine anything? Why not just place simple bets. If a user leaves, they lose.. (maybe add an hour timer in case they lost internet or want to 'come back' into the game because of an accident..)

Got any other game ideas?

so to hack it, all i have to do is create computer opponents, and put all the money i create in a bank?

A chess engine would never suggest moves like those from this masterpiece of aesthetics and artistry:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immortal_Game

The internets are funny sometimes, I had almost this EXACT idea about a year ago, but stopped giving it thought due to the cheating issues that have been brought up. The ultimate goal of the program would be to create an extremely enhanced implementation of this:  http://www.engine-cloud.com/

The main difference in my concept for this implementation is that "mining" would be entirely based on Stockfish (integrated into the client) machine games, rather than human vs computer. Still, cheating would be an issue, though less so than human vs computer, unless you're Magnus Carlsen  

As far as BTC's for tournament winnings, I believe the chess world would be very amenable toward this concept.

Big fan of chess but online chess for money doesn't work as there are too many programs applications that just make you superior. You could do this with poker as there is a factor of randomness and unknown.

However I love the idea of the combination of crypto and chess. Wish you could come up with something.

good luck.

They can move computer steps in no time. It doesn't work, may be create some arcade or racing games, and they can win

I'm not sure what you're aiming for. Getting a computer to enumerate possible chess games isn't hard; the problem is that there are so many of them. In particular, to prove that a given game is unique will, in general, require storing all the previous unique games, which will be prohibitively expensive.

If you are aiming for a proof-of-work scheme that involves humans doing the work, then that's quite an interesting idea, but chess isn't suitable because computers can do it better than humans can. Also, to resolve conflicts in a distributable system, you need a way to measure which block-chain has the largest proof-of-work, which means assessing how much effort went into the chess games.

As an aside, in John Varley's Titan SF trilogy, long-distance communication is done by singing to a special plant, that will relay the song to distant plants that will also sing it, provided the plants consider the song to be beautiful enough to repeat. With those plants you could maybe create a crypto-currency based around proof-of-beauty, that would be hard to forge because creating beauty is hard.

I'm not sure it's possible to eliminate cheating via chess engines, but as a chess fanatic, I would love to see some work on chess, perhaps as a distributed engine.

To stop cheating would be a big issue, especially with those chess bots available.

This is nice idea but it is not 100% fair

as players might use so many tools to help their game to win

I am on it when it will be possible!

Or you can just use chess bot and win every time.

It would be very hard to fight with cheaters.

elke is a freak

havad khan plays like 46 tables at once

This would actually work in person. But uhh.. so does cash. It will be quite some time before Bitcoin replaces cash for things like this.

'nice promotion'idea and not just chess,it would be fine if btc enters the entire sports field ....

You'll see people doing multi-windows. Like in poker. Or multi-table.

A better idea is to organize a chess tournament with grandmasters and put up bitcoins for the prize money.  Can easily be done.

There you go.
Make it cheat proof and you are really on to something.
I'll play...