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Or maybe they have already know the Virus before it even appear in Media thats why they have countered it that fast and accuracy ?

There are so many news coming now about their activity towards this virus and the way we look at the evidence?there are part of it that are true and legit.
They must be the one whos responsible for this many lives that gone because of their own interests .
Some are planted and some are really intentional .

A few may have known of the virus earlier. As a matter of fact, the doctor who was arrested for announcing the existence of the virus noticed it way before the virus or the disease got its name. It was set aside, however. It was only given due attention when it was discovered to be very infectious and a good number of their people have gotten the disease already.

There is still no vaccine or medicine yet. And perhaps the most effective way to counter the spread of the virus is to limit the movements of the people to the most minimum. This is where China has the edge over other countries. They basically has the power to make their people follow.

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China's economy and they will manage Covid-19 very easily.
The tendency to keep the coronavirus vaccine or permanent vaccine in check is called vaccine nationalism which experts say could pose a man-made disaster to the world's public health and economy. Already such moves by governments in some influential countries are turning global vaccine efforts into an arms race they said.

Analysts at the Eurasia Group an international consultancy on the political risks of trade say the fight against the covid antidote could escalate this summer As a result the fight to get the antidote produced may last from 2021 to 2022. However compared to other countries China is far ahead in terms of antidotes.

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Quote from: akram143 on July 11, 2020, 07:18:38 AM

How China stopped the spread of virus so easily when every country is struggling, they simply stopped saying it to the world, nothing more.No one can find what is the actual situation inside China, what their communist media report is the only thing we know.And also now there are more doubts occurs related to where this virus originated, Taiwan reported there is some kind of spread in Spetember itself but China denies it along with WHO.

Agreed, we don't actually know if China really did handle things, because of their media being controlled by govs
At least we can try to follow their steps
I honestly am not sure if any other country tried that hard to maintain the virus + be aware of 2 factors:
1) they are "ahead" of other countries with couple months
2) they've had no problems with people crossing the borders, because obviously they were the ones to infest others

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How China stopped the spread of virus so easily when every country is struggling, they simply stopped saying it to the world, nothing more.No one can find what is the actual situation inside China, what their communist media report is the only thing we know.And also now there are more doubts occurs related to where this virus originated, Taiwan reported there is some kind of spread in Spetember itself but China denies it along with WHO.

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Quote from: inanilujimi on July 11, 2020, 04:39:30 AM

discipline for me is my own desire to live it in order to prevent transmission, while the rules made if you want to frighten humans will not be carried out properly if not accompanied by high awareness, hopefully this problem will soon end.
and we can move as usual.

it is an act that we must realize for the transmission of the pandemic virus that is not widespread. I also do settling at home for the common good in fighting this pandemic virus quickly disappear. But still in my country there are still many careless people doing activities in and out of the city. that makes me upset and don't have the right to think about life safety for the environment?
really not wanted from me a thing like that??

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Quote from: Darker45 on June 28, 2020, 07:43:42 AM

I guess there are three main reasons why China is somehow successful in combating the virus.

1. The government is really strong and decisive. All the power resides in the government.
2. The country is rich. They have the means to do things fast.
3. The people are afraid of the government. They, therefore, comply with whatever the government tells them.

Or maybe they have already know the Virus before it even appear in Media thats why they have countered it that fast and accuracy ?

There are so many news coming now about their activity towards this virus and the way we look at the evidence?there are part of it that are true and legit.
They must be the one whos responsible for this many lives that gone because of their own interests .
Some are planted and some are really intentional .

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discipline for me is my own desire to live it in order to prevent transmission, while the rules made if you want to frighten humans will not be carried out properly if not accompanied by high awareness, hopefully this problem will soon end.
and we can move as usual.

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Yup, their government is strict and they always respect their leaders in power. Seriously, you can’t mess up in that place, if you do, you will have your case handled and your ass whooped badly. They were the first country to have this Coronavirus, instead of the number of Covid19 cases in their country to be going up, it’s rather decreasing while other countries where it never started are now the ones that are having growing numbers of Coronavirus cases. Really bad. And by the way, they are not the only ones that did a lockdown, other countries too did a lockdown and it never worked.

As per the latest news, WHO's representatives are arriving China for collecting/finding the root-cause of covid19 outbreak. Not sure where it will end up; if anything against China goes from here, then the chances for economic ban on China is more.

Quote from: Botnake on July 07, 2020, 04:09:18 AM

what they have to do is just to follow the model of the China on how they contain the virus so their economy will also recover, the problem is some countries especially the big countries are underestimating the virus so they are suffering now.

That is true. The density of population in China is low (except few major cities) whereas other low populated countries but with high density in one or two cities are severely getting infected and underestimating the virus must be one valid reason here. I guess many countries are still studying China's model on contain the spread of virus but without cooperating from public, nothing is possible to achieve.

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on July 09, 2020, 11:24:29 PM

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The government of China is really amazing in hadling this pandemic in their country although it all started from there. The fact that they know how to handle viruses because their country is prone to such things, as well as a strong government and unstubborn country men to follow government's rule, that is the reason why China handled the virus very well and the reason why they have very little active case now than they had on the previous months.

If only other countries can do the same thing as they do and people are very discpline to follow same rules, then everything could have been handled well and there will be less cases than we have now.

China isn't a democratic country, what they orders to the people everyone have to obey without asking any questions further but all other countries even developed nation allows everyone to have their freedom of speech and their rights no matter what is the situation which makes the difference.Moreover we don't really knows that they controlled the spread for real because from many leaks we can see they are clearly hiding the case numbers.

almost all countries which are fully controlled by the government and are not given democratic freedom. can overcome the pandemic problem well because what the government says no one is against the rules that have been made. In Southeast Asia there are also China such as Vietnam, they can overcome the pandemic quickly and finish without people breaking the rules made by the government.

in a situation like this where a pandemic is very fast transmission should the government be assisted with full awareness of the community so that the pandemic can be finished immediately. but they are violating and do not want to be restrained because they violate the freedom to express opinions and actions. then it is certain that a pandemic will be difficult to implement.

Korea and Japan are countries that indeed give freedom to express opinions well but the people have high awareness and are willing to help the government so they can also quickly solve the pandemic problem well.

there are good and bad when it comes to obedience to the rules that have been made by the government for good. for a pandemic there must be special extras so they can realize.

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Quote from: princesspoppy on July 04, 2020, 05:54:51 PM

The government of China is really amazing in hadling this pandemic in their country although it all started from there. The fact that they know how to handle viruses because their country is prone to such things, as well as a strong government and unstubborn country men to follow government's rule, that is the reason why China handled the virus very well and the reason why they have very little active case now than they had on the previous months.

If only other countries can do the same thing as they do and people are very discpline to follow same rules, then everything could have been handled well and there will be less cases than we have now.

China isn't a democratic country, what they orders to the people everyone have to obey without asking any questions further but all other countries even developed nation allows everyone to have their freedom of speech and their rights no matter what is the situation which makes the difference.Moreover we don't really knows that they controlled the spread for real because from many leaks we can see they are clearly hiding the case numbers.

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Quote from: Philipping on July 07, 2020, 11:04:32 AM

We still do not know much about this pandemic, how it started and whether it is a natural development of the flu or manipulated in the Chinese intelligence.
China is one of the few countries that has seen an increase in the rate of cases and has succeeded in containing the disease.
Recklessness and failure to follow healthy protocols is what threatens many lives.
Staying home and following proper procedures is the only weapon until treatment is found.

I believe that it is very difficult to determine where the truth is and where the False. Of course, very often, many blame China for spreading the coronavirus. but it can also be assumed that it was the Chinese people who were the victims of their potential economic and political opponents from other countries. I believe that this scenario should also not be ruled out.

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We still do not know much about this pandemic, how it started and whether it is a natural development of the flu or manipulated in the Chinese intelligence.
China is one of the few countries that has seen an increase in the rate of cases and has succeeded in containing the disease.
Recklessness and failure to follow healthy protocols is what threatens many lives.
Staying home and following proper procedures is the only weapon until treatment is found.

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We all know that the root of this pandemic are those Chinese people who eats exotic food.

At first, that's what I believe when it was still china who has the highest number of covid cases, but as time pass by and I read a lot of news and articles, it's already confusing me and I don't anymore believe that anyone have accurately identified the root cause of the corona virus.

They are actually accusing each other, like China accuse US and vice versa, so I'm not anymore interested on where this virus came from, what interest me now is on how and when the vaccine and the cure will be release.

What is done,, is done. Whether the virus came because Chines eat everything that is alive or because of something else, we might never know and there is no use in accusations.However, now it's important to find the way to keep pandemic under control and to enable to economies to recover.
I beleive that Chinese will have advantage in recovery compared with US and Europe, they will put their economy back on feet much faster and again be one step ahead.

We all see that as they never exceed 100,000 number of cases, and US also accused them of under reporting cases because US can't control the increase of their cases which have already balloon to almost 3 million now. It' not really helpful at all, what they have to do is just to follow the model of the China on how they contain the virus so their economy will also recover, the problem is some countries especially the big countries are underestimating the virus so they are suffering now.

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Quote from: Botnake on July 06, 2020, 03:51:54 AM

Quote from: AniviaBtc on June 28, 2020, 06:24:12 AM

We all know that the root of this pandemic are those Chinese people who eats exotic food.

At first, that's what I believe when it was still china who has the highest number of covid cases, but as time pass by and I read a lot of news and articles, it's already confusing me and I don't anymore believe that anyone have accurately identified the root cause of the corona virus.

They are actually accusing each other, like China accuse US and vice versa, so I'm not anymore interested on where this virus came from, what interest me now is on how and when the vaccine and the cure will be release.

What is done,, is done. Whether the virus came because Chines eat everything that is alive or because of something else, we might never know and there is no use in accusations.However, now it's important to find the way to keep pandemic under control and to enable to economies to recover.
I beleive that Chinese will have advantage in recovery compared with US and Europe, they will put their economy back on feet much faster and again be one step ahead.

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Quote from: AniviaBtc on June 28, 2020, 06:24:12 AM

We all know that the root of this pandemic are those Chinese people who eats exotic food. The first case of Covid-19 was in Wuhan, China, the markets there are in a lockdown and closed after they try to sell horseshoe bat where the new strand of corona virus came from. We all know that China has a strong and rich economy due to their love for money.

China's approach toward this virus is really precise and effective as they are minimizing the rate of transmission of this Covid-19. They are effectively slowing the number of cases and right now, they have only 415 active cases as of June 28, 2020, based on this link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic.

Maybe the factors that help them to have a stable economy are:
1. Chinese people are really disciplined, they are not going outside but still can pay taxes.
2. They strictly following the rules and laws implemented by the government.
3. The government is prioritizing the health sector above all other sectors.
4. Properly allocating the budget for this pandemic.
5. We all know that China is the number 1, manufacturer of face masks, gloves, alcohol, and test kits.

By that factors, these will help them handle this Covid-19 properly and as well as controlling their economy to prevent some downward movement. Being a communist and huge country is really a good advantage as they control how money regulates in their country. Man power toward production of goods are really strong as they have the largest population.

Do you think each and every country can achieve this kind of approach to this pandemic? Can they recover faster from this struggle economically?

Most of the media channels of the entire world are speculating that China isn't showing the actual number of cases and these speculations were supported by the fact that a lot more Mobile connections and bank accounts were closed during the time period in which covid-19 was spreading in China at a rapid rate.
Actually if the countries follow lockdowns seriously like New Zealand then they can eliminate this epidemic from their country as well.

the problem is that the governance systems in each country are different, and also in the country's economy, if developed countries might impose lockdowns or implement recommended health protocols during a pandemic it might be easier to realize than in developing and poor countries.

Actually the developed countries are doing a good job in preventing the spread than the developing and under developed countries. The number of cases are also pretty less in developed countries as compared to the developing countries. But here my main question was about the Chinese government hiding the actual number of cases which doesn't happen pretty often in a democratic country that China says it is.

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Quote from: Botnake on July 06, 2020, 03:51:54 AM

Quote from: AniviaBtc on June 28, 2020, 06:24:12 AM

We all know that the root of this pandemic are those Chinese people who eats exotic food.

At first, that's what I believe when it was still china who has the highest number of covid cases, but as time pass by and I read a lot of news and articles, it's already confusing me and I don't anymore believe that anyone have accurately identified the root cause of the corona virus.

They are actually accusing each other, like China accuse US and vice versa, so I'm not anymore interested on where this virus came from, what interest me now is on how and when the vaccine and the cure will be release.

Same here. There will be conspiracy theories but we don't need it right now. What we need is the potent vaccine to combat this pandemic. So maybe, maybe we will slowly live a lil bit of normal life again.

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Quote from: AniviaBtc on June 28, 2020, 06:24:12 AM

We all know that the root of this pandemic are those Chinese people who eats exotic food.

At first, that's what I believe when it was still china who has the highest number of covid cases, but as time pass by and I read a lot of news and articles, it's already confusing me and I don't anymore believe that anyone have accurately identified the root cause of the corona virus.

They are actually accusing each other, like China accuse US and vice versa, so I'm not anymore interested on where this virus came from, what interest me now is on how and when the vaccine and the cure will be release.

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Quote from: lumeire on July 04, 2020, 02:23:25 PM

Quote from: AniviaBtc on June 28, 2020, 06:24:12 AM

We all know that the root of this pandemic are those Chinese people who eats exotic food. The first case of Covid-19 was in Wuhan, China, the markets there are in a lockdown and closed after they try to sell horseshoe bat where the new strand of corona virus came from. We all know that China has a strong and rich economy due to their love for money.

China's approach toward this virus is really precise and effective as they are minimizing the rate of transmission of this Covid-19. They are effectively slowing the number of cases and right now, they have only 415 active cases as of June 28, 2020, based on this link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic.

Maybe the factors that help them to have a stable economy are:
1. Chinese people are really disciplined, they are not going outside but still can pay taxes.
2. They strictly following the rules and laws implemented by the government.
3. The government is prioritizing the health sector above all other sectors.
4. Properly allocating the budget for this pandemic.
5. We all know that China is the number 1, manufacturer of face masks, gloves, alcohol, and test kits.

By that factors, these will help them handle this Covid-19 properly and as well as controlling their economy to prevent some downward movement. Being a communist and huge country is really a good advantage as they control how money regulates in their country. Man power toward production of goods are really strong as they have the largest population.

Do you think each and every country can achieve this kind of approach to this pandemic? Can they recover faster from this struggle economically?

Most of the media channels of the entire world are speculating that China isn't showing the actual number of cases and these speculations were supported by the fact that a lot more Mobile connections and bank accounts were closed during the time period in which covid-19 was spreading in China at a rapid rate.
Actually if the countries follow lockdowns seriously like New Zealand then they can eliminate this epidemic from their country as well.

the problem is that the governance systems in each country are different, and also in the country's economy, if developed countries might impose lockdowns or implement recommended health protocols during a pandemic it might be easier to realize than in developing and poor countries.

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Quote from: hunter7519 on July 04, 2020, 07:12:29 PM

China, once the epicenter of the COVID-19 pandemic, appears to be turning a corner. As the number of reported local transmission cases hovers near zero, daily life is slowly returning to normal. However, economic data from the first two months of the year shows the damage done to the country’s finances. But we already know that China is one of the biggest country they can recover easily compare to the 3rd world country.

The difference between China and developing countries and poor countries is the ammunition (read: money). China is accustomed to printing money based on projects, so the mechanisms and systems are neatly organized, so as long as there are multi-layered and productive projects, money is readily available, and licensing is made easy. For those when the total lockdown of the Chinese government is not confused the problem of budged is different from developing and poor countries. In addition, China's multistreaming income is also large because the majority of trade is surplus, in addition to the country's foreign exchange reserves, are also large, so that even though the economy had contracted, but China remained strong. While many in developing countries have started to have a discourse on printing money but are still confused about its practices and applications.

While what distinguishes China from other countries in dealing with corona is experience. Something that doesn't kill you will make you stronger. The bird flu virus that is believed to have been created to weaken China actually creates spectacular experiences so that they have a planned, systematic, and modern emergency response in the face of the next pandemic. If compared to the human body, China now has a strong defense (antibody) against disease.

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China, once the epicenter of the COVID-19 pandemic, appears to be turning a corner. As the number of reported local transmission cases hovers near zero, daily life is slowly returning to normal. However, economic data from the first two months of the year shows the damage done to the country’s finances. But we already know that China is one of the biggest country they can recover easily compare to the 3rd world country.

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