Topic: China economy and how they handle Covid-19. - page 7. (Read 1165 times)

For me, maybe this effective handling of economy and Covid-19 is really an scapegoat for them so that this virus will not blamed to them. There are rumors about China denying the US accusations about the origin of Covid-19. Here is the link: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-52790634, you can see here that they are strongly accusing US for saying false information about them.

Although US have a point that the virus really came from them. Their economy is not that affected which means that they are trying to say that this Corona virus came originally from US, because they are the one who are suffering the most economically and have the largest Covid-19 cases. Stock market of US is really in a downward movement due to their failure in handling this virus.

This is a good strategy for China, effective measures in controlling the virus and minimizing the risks of transmission, as well as the growth and stability in their economy.

Though I am not in the conspiracy side, but I believe Chinese government had some sort of concealment regarding the true number of their Covid deaths. I have read several articles months ago that in China, a lot of those relatives who died from this disease were not included in the tally or they died at home owed to crowding in hospitals. So we don't know the real number of death cases they have and the ongoing stats.

Chinese people are much more disciplined than others. Maybe the fines for not following lockdown rules are much harder than in other countries. Also, China is on top place for death penalty (sorry, found info only about year 2018). When some countries will fine you for less than $100 for being outside during total lockdown, in China you could be sentences to death if you are infected and you infect someone.

I can see that the idea that the origin of the virus is in Wuhan market is still circulating, but there is strong evidence that the virus appeared much earlier and that the Chinese kept silent about it and knew very well that something serious was happening. The fact is that the Military World Games took place in Wuhan 2019 (October) and that many athletes reported symptoms of a disease exactly identical to COVID-19.

It is not possible that the Chinese did not know that something was happening two months before the official announcement if you read something like this


Subsequent research has also shown that the first cases of COVID-19 appeared in Europe long before anyone knew the virus even existed - so there is certainly another side to the coin that could tell a very different story.

It is completely pointless to compare China with another country when it comes to relations and dealing with crisis situations. Communism does not ask for opinions, it issues orders, and those who do not obey them usually end up in prison or something much worse happens to them.

The news can be turned over to be fake while we don't know the truth. I think there is a secret conspiracy among the government which wants to test the biological weapon, and they don't think that the effect will be like this. If this pandemic is really from Wuhan, and it is happening because of intentional factors, then they need to respond to what happened to many countries, which got the impact of Covid-19. We don't want to see this is happening again in the future, and we need to remind them that it is enough to see how people died in the hospital.

I think the most successful way to stem COVID-19, is Vietnam and Taiwan with the consideration that these two countries are geographically very dean with China and with small positive corona patients and very small mortality rates even in Vietnam with zero fatalities.
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/the-road-to-recovery-which-economies-are-reopening-covid-19/

In COVID-19 handlers, China combines recipes: leadership + management + technology + printing money

Since the end of February Chinese citizens have to download applications that are connected to national health data centers, and these applications are formal and have legal consequences because they relate to the validity and correctness of information provided by citizens. And there are daily updates that must be done by citizens through the application. This application is a Chinese citizen health card that shows the status of citizens, green, yellow, or red.

Lockdown in Wuhan is very different from lockdown in other countries. In Wuhan, no one can leave the house unless they have permission from the officers. The military was deployed to guard the streets to a small road. Only supermarket or drugstore destinations are permitted with the status requirement in the application must be green. If yellow or red have to stay at home. With this application, an effective and controlled lockdown and lockdown in China has become very modern.

The habit of printing money based on multi-layered and independent projects is effective ammunition but is considered taboo by many other countries to emulate. China is a successful country as a copycat to be an innovative country now. In addition, one of the strategies emphasized by China is to focus on GNP rather than GDP. The OBOR system created by China aims to create a labor market and a market for Chinese manufactured products. Chinese money printing will not be overvalued because it is based on a layered project.

Chinese people are really strict when it comes to its rules and laws that's why they obey the government without any hesitation. They have unity and the government is responsible and accountable enough to handle this Covid-19 pandemic. They are helping each other and participating in minimizing the risk of spreading this virus. When the government immediately implement a lockdown, the citizens obey and respect and they are just staying inside their house and they trust their government on how they will handle this virus. That's the reason why the economy is not that affected, they only focus and prioritize the economy and the budget for this pandemic. Maybe the government officials are honest and rich enough so they don't corrupt the money of their country.

China always has its own principles by dealing with its citizens due to Covid-19 although many who insistently attack China because these are all from China but they are able to rise up in a short time can be said like that because basically they always live by the very rules strict as well as cleanliness and good discipline applied in its citizens now I do not hear anymore China is experiencing an outbreak in its citizens because they are able to reduce mortality and remove the virus from his own country.

I know that China is more concerned with the economy and is now becoming more stable.

Though it looks like that in the surface, the reason that most people looked like discipline is that they are under the government's program of mass surveilance, they have the biggest number of close circuit cameras per square mile, and they are also indoctrinated with the propaganda in the state owned TV station, the problem with these is the fact that the government are doing cover ups, remember the time when they reported falsified numbers of the true cases that they have, remember Tianamen Square Massacre where they suppressed foreign media and protesters through violent force, they have a history of suppression of information and that is my reason for being skeptical about their current status because they are a repeat offender lof information suppression.

that makes sense with the efforts made by the Chinese government, they really did it to protect their citizens from the COVID-19 outbreak and also their economy, the principle that they do is right to make the Chinese economy stable at the moment, a positive thing that deserves to be taken as an example by other countrie.

There are even more interesting things done by the Chinese government in creating a stable Chinese economy and for the welfare of the Chinese people.
Obviously, they do also extraordinary things like: guarantee of market / mall activity stability, basic needs, energy, job security, this continues to operate during a pandemic at the local government level, this is also a good step for them to do to keep the economy stable in China.

First question. Did it really came from the bat?
Wasn't it cooked first? So that means taking away the virus if put into a boiling point.
We don't really know. There is so many theories lurking around.

They handed it quicker since it came from them. It's a must.
One reason is that it will not spread in other countries or in their case in their cities.
I think this will also depend on the people. Discipline will be so much appreciated.

I'd double check that "chinese people are really disciplined", there's a trend of mainland chinese who usually don't like going by the book and instead look for ways of cheating, this opinion obviously has a bit of bias as I've had a few bad experiences with mainland contractors, but that's a story for another time. The other points I agree though, the government took a while to take a stance on covid, but when they finally did they were, as you say, decisive about the matter so that definitely helped.

I first off am not 100% sold on this virus being due to someone eating a bat.  I think it leaking from a lab is a lot more plausible.  That said the Chinese are very regimented and disciplined people and wear masks all the time when they are just sick with the cold anyhow.  However I also believe the Chinese government is full of shit and likely lying out their ass about the true amount of cases they've had.  Their news is 100% government controlled so who really knows.

I think the main factor in how they were able to handle the situation is because of the strict regulations and how fast they take action towards the problem. Remember when the number of cases in China was increasing rapidly, especially in Wuhan, they immediately implemented a hard lockdown and they were able to build a facility within days for the patients. Cooperation of their people also helped, but I think the government and medical staff really gave their all in fighting the virus.

The money and power also play a role since they are a rich country, they can easily build a big facility for COVID patients and can manufacture equipment they will need. Unfortunately, not all country has that kind of power to do what China did. In my country, the fund is not enough to help everyone affected by the virus, what more in building facilities and providing tools and equipment. Also, my country is increasing its debt just to the so-called "fighting against the virus" yet nothing is going well, daily cases are still increasing. Aside from the financial capability of a country to fight this pandemic, not all government is as competent like in China.

Yeah the security system can protect us from epidemics like Covid-19, but we should not rely only on the government. The government must continue to be vigilant in protecting itself as well. China's economy has improved a lot. They were very aware and were able to resist a lot because of the lockdown. If every country in the world, like China, arranges a strict lockdown so that people from one frontier do not enter another, it can be handled very easily. Because of these measures, China has been able to resist very easily.

They have learned with their experience to face the virus in their country. We know that the government have full power to handle everything in their country and the society obey to every regulations of the government certainly. Because the government and the society stand together, they can handle this virus seriously. We can see the result of their cooperation, their country can face this pandemic better than another countries in the world.

They took it seriously and with strict lock down prevented to spread it across their country. 500 cases fro biggest country is little. Most of their economy was never in any danger. Mostly economy in Hubei province suffered, but now is fine fro some time.

China's government is very strong, they can handle their huge population smoothly, just take a look at their cases now, it is relatively low from their past cases on covid which really tells us that they are doing it right. In fact it is the WHO organization that is following the China on covid-19, WHO is giving their full support on China and technical assistance since they saw this chance in China to combat covid.
The country is very rich that even USA has a trillion debt to them, have you heard of a 3-day built hospital in Wuhan?
I really believe the key to this pandemic is cooperation , here in my country it is like a normal day to them going out, letting their kids to play outside, it is like nothings happening around. Then they have the audacity to ask what did the government do to fight the virus like wtf.

No country can perform better than China up to now. What they are doing with this disease is outstanding although they are the ones who started everything. China's people are really disciplined during this pandemic and they do everything which the government said. This success is present to all of the people in this country. Despite the dark face of their government, the people still have fate and believe in what President Xi do to protect their life and their economy

The western, on the other hand, seems can not handle things which are slipping away from their hand. For example, the US is struggling with many protests and shitty stuff which causing more NcoV-19 cases. The people keep making protests over and over again and they are even scared of this disease. They are living in a freedom country and that's why people do whatever they want and they don't care about this Virus. Learning what China has done is really important to them right now but I think its really hard. Therefore, we have to wait for the vaccine in order to stop this pandemic once and for all

I guess there are three main reasons why China is somehow successful in combating the virus.

1. The government is really strong and decisive. All the power resides in the government.
2. The country is rich. They have the means to do things fast.
3. The people are afraid of the government. They, therefore, comply with whatever the government tells them.