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Heard about it and it's definitely getting exaggerated by the Chinese. A pandemic like COVID is an ultra rare event that probably comes around once every 200 years or even more based on my research.

on the Plus side, No recorded death yet so maybe a normal hmpv and not one made by Man.
I really don't want to imagine the collapse it would cause I'm this shaky economy.
It doesn't hurt to be cautious, countries can try increasing surveillance.

China is hiding the real situation and maybe they didn't disclose the number of cases yet. This is not the first time they are hiding this kind of situation since we already experience this when they hide Covid to the world. They only release the information when there's already a outbreak happened that's why its better to prepare than doing nothing. Although they are denying about it, but I believe there's already emergency situation happened due to that virus spreading since there's some information leaked already.

I don't think this can shake the economy since provably that leaders know what to do and lot of them gain experience thru situation happen on last covid 19.

It is the principle of all totalitarian states to hide the inconvenient truth, and publish a mass of lies. Otherwise they cease to exist. I am more interested in something else - how long the Chinese experiments with viruses, which have already claimed millions of lives, will continue, and most importantly - what is the real purpose of these experiments? I realize that in today's situation to make China look “strong” there is only one way - to weaken the others. The status they have ascribed to themselves (the second pole of the world, with a hint that they replaced the rotten USSR) requires real strength, but China does not have it, and the problems are present and growing.
And a new pandemic looks logical for China:
- With decreasing production, China has a huge problem with a disgruntled population out of work, which is an internal tension that a totalitarian government doesn't need.
- economic problems in the west, in the wake of another pandemic, are guaranteed ! And this increases the likelihood of returning to supply and placing orders for the production of goods in China. So the only logical beneficiary is China.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on January 06, 2025, 05:39:00 PM

Aside from the lack of vaccines, there was also just a lot of uncertainty regarding the virus and so the government did a lot of mistakes when it came to handling the people and their frustrations. They were also unprepared with facilities and equipment which made it a lot difficult to treat patients immediately.

Everything you mentioned was experienced during the first time the world faced a pandemic. Aside from the protocols that had to be followed, there was also the rush to prepare medicines and vaccines.

What I really don’t like about pandemics is how some corrupt people take advantage of the situation. Hospitals jacking up their rates, relief goods and government aid getting pocketed by officials - it’s disgusting. Instead of helping, they’re making money off people’s suffering. Honestly, these kinds of people deserve to rot in hell.

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Quote from: STT on January 06, 2025, 06:17:21 PM

There are lots of deadly virus but I doubt we'll easily see a duplicate of covid just yet. It spread so widely because it had no effect on some people yet they were carriers. There are more deadly viruses known before and after covid so it wont be only one thing that makes it as impactful as covid turned out to be.

Unless there is a large volatile variance in the effects of the virus I wouldnt worry too much just yet, how easily it spreads etc. of course anything air borne is bad enough to warn about.

There's also the thing that what could classify as a pandemic has to check a lot of the criteria before a consideration not to mention that HMPV might not even spread all throughout China or that it might not be as deadly as COVID was, we have to remain vigilant about this one because if people are talking about it, it's most likely that there's enough concern surrounding this matter that it's worth looking out for, the only thing that really concerns me about this virus is that it can be a really good way for people who spread disinformation to capitalize on it and make money by writing fake news and stories about it to incite fear and terror that a pandemic might be happening again.

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Fortunately, I have not heard of HMPV here in my country, I do not know how widespread it is in the rest of the world so far, but I hope that this news is just exaggerated.

We cannot rule out the fact that China may resort to such dirty means that can destroy humanity in its economic war with the United States, this dirty immoral war that major countries resort to to maintain their control, its first victim is the poor people who do not have sufficient means of protection to take the vaccine or the necessary medicines to eliminate the virus.

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The corona virus pandemic has created a lot of buzz around the world and the emergence of new viruses will definitely bring the world back into the spotlight as soon as the outbreak subsides. If the HMPV virus does become an outbreak, the world will once again experience a second lockdown.

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Quote from: khiholangkang on January 08, 2025, 02:02:51 PM

But unfortunately I do not, when Covid 19 I was not vaccinated and also did not do things that were recommended by the government such as using a mask using a hand sanitizer and so on, after all I am safe until now even though not a few of my neighbors were affected by the virus, so I might be different and more unconcerned with news like propaganda.

Everyone will continue to believe that any virus that appears to occur is related to Covid, which was attributed to China as if it was the one who created it and spread it in the world with pre-prepared specifications and characteristics. This can be included in the framework of the conspiracy theory, whose formulas and scenarios never end. Personally, I cannot confirm or deny whether the new virus is natural or prepared in a laboratory. However, I can confirm that dealing with it using scientific methods can lead to results that can help in reaching the origin of the disease. What is certain is that many doubts have become raised regarding everything that may appear new, considering the same position on the conspiracy theory. But this will make me doubt the entire scientific community and how it is ready for a conspiracy theory to become the prevailing idea on the basis of which we make analyses and conclusions.

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Quote from: Apocollapse on January 08, 2025, 03:14:01 AM

Personally I don't really care with any similar virus like corona where it's infectious by sneezing/contact with the illness and bad hygiene. It's because my lifestyle now was like lockdown during corona virus, I always wear mask every time I leave my home, bring hand sanitizer and wash my hand using soap.

It doesn't mean I will not get this disease, but my lifestyle will prevent infected by this virus.

It is not aware that the normalization of clothes like you will indeed make us much safer, after Covid Corona might be many people like you, doing things very clean to avoid viruses out there that endanger our lives and our families.

But unfortunately I do not, when Covid 19 I was not vaccinated and also did not do things that were recommended by the government such as using a mask using a hand sanitizer and so on, after all I am safe until now even though not a few of my neighbors were affected by the virus, so I might be different and more unconcerned with news like propaganda.

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Quote from: pooya87 on January 08, 2025, 01:19:19 AM

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I've read some say that HMPV isn't a new virus and has been there many years ago.

Coronavirus was also not a new virus, it was first found in 1920's.
It's the new variants that are problematic specially when the virus is "mutated" and becomes more damaging to the patient's body like the COVID19 variant was.

It is even more dangerous when there is human intervention in the mutation of the virus... like in a virus that is produced in a lab...

I don't want to believe on the mutation but that's the reality. The transfer from human to human and once it's contained inside someone's body, these viruses really are upgrading and mutating that gives different variants. While these viruses aren't really new and the constraints are becoming stronger, whether someone believes that these viruses won't be strong as the other one before, it all ends up of being prepared and avoiding to get contracted by any of it or with simple flu, take some rest and I'm paranoid if someone from my family got some cold and flu already.

Quote from: Lucius on January 08, 2025, 11:40:51 AM

Every year in China, epidemics like this happen during the winter, and now someone wants to make a story about a virus that has been known for over 20 years and to which many people already have natural immunity. If a reasonable person looks back and takes a realistic look at the situation surrounding covid-19, he can conclude that this "disease" was exaggerated to incredible proportions with the obvious aim of testing how people will react if they start being treated like animals in a cage.

Covid has reportedly killed around 7 million people, but what they won't say is that the majority were mostly over 60 and that they didn't actually die from the virus, but with the virus. What I want to say is that this figure includes everyone who was found to be infected with the virus, even if the real cause of death was something completely different.

Unfortunately, the world will have to face something much more dangerous in the near future - and that threatens trade wars and claims over the territories of other countries.

There are too many issues that we have to bear with and even we're not from those sides of the world, we're about to get affected by all of those factors that you've mentioned. The climate change also does contribute to the mutation of these viruses that have been there many years ago and we can't do anything about that and like what they've said about covid-19, we will live together with it and that's why we need to strengthen our immune systems.

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Quote from: passwordnow on January 07, 2025, 05:56:28 PM

I've read some say that HMPV isn't a new virus and has been there many years ago. It's crazy that this is on all timing, I remember when covid-19 was at height, there was also another virus that was reported trying to spread somewhere but then it eventually lost the attention of the media.

Here's a quote from the "health experts".

Quote from: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hmpv-human-metapneumovirus-india-cases-confirmed-symptoms/

"Health experts have clarified that the HMPV is not a new virus; it was first identified in 2001 and it has been circulating in the entire world for many years," Indian Health Minister J. P. Nadda said Monday. "The health systems and surveillance networks of the country are vigilant and there is no reason to worry."

Every year in China, epidemics like this happen during the winter, and now someone wants to make a story about a virus that has been known for over 20 years and to which many people already have natural immunity. If a reasonable person looks back and takes a realistic look at the situation surrounding covid-19, he can conclude that this "disease" was exaggerated to incredible proportions with the obvious aim of testing how people will react if they start being treated like animals in a cage.

Covid has reportedly killed around 7 million people, but what they won't say is that the majority were mostly over 60 and that they didn't actually die from the virus, but with the virus. What I want to say is that this figure includes everyone who was found to be infected with the virus, even if the real cause of death was something completely different.

Unfortunately, the world will have to face something much more dangerous in the near future - and that threatens trade wars and claims over the territories of other countries.

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Quote from: Ambatman on January 08, 2025, 03:18:45 AM

Quote from: Haunebu on January 08, 2025, 02:45:27 AM

Heard about it and it's definitely getting exaggerated by the Chinese. A pandemic like COVID is an ultra rare event that probably comes around once every 200 years or even more based on my research.

on the Plus side, No recorded death yet so maybe a normal hmpv and not one made by Man.
I really don't want to imagine the collapse it would cause I'm this shaky economy.
It doesn't hurt to be cautious, countries can try increasing surveillance.

China is hiding the real situation and maybe they didn't disclose the number of cases yet. This is not the first time they are hiding this kind of situation since we already experience this when they hide Covid to the world. They only release the information when there's already a outbreak happened that's why its better to prepare than doing nothing. Although they are denying about it, but I believe there's already emergency situation happened due to that virus spreading since there's some information leaked already.

I don't think this can shake the economy since provably that leaders know what to do and lot of them gain experience thru situation happen on last covid 19.

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Quote from: naira on January 07, 2025, 02:19:40 PM

This new pandemic may be too early but Corona at that time also spread from an unknown area but spread quickly. China's population is spread all over the country, so the rate of spread can be easy.

Based on what I know, you always know the most about conspiracies, right? and it is also enough of a start for me to start it with 2025 where HMPV began to be echoed. There is always something to be suspicious of, especially since the US is again led by Trump, who is not very politically favored by China.

A new chapter of economic war must begin, and China is trying to light a little fire, just waiting for other igniters in some countries where China can easily bring immigrants. For example in my country there are 10 million people (4% - 5% of the total population).

Sheesh.. that's interesting. So what about those bat soups and other exotic foods in China that said the virus came through? So, was it only just a cover-up to hide their true motive? Hhmm... it is only sad that the blame is being put up on China. China is still humble there to provide help from other countries. Maybe a lot of people now are aware that Trump is involved on the virus issue, so this could backfire him and I'm afraid that this can now affect Bitcoin too.

This may cause a disappointment to those that expect for a 4 year-cycle and thinks the bull run we have last year is going to get carried on, hopefully bitcoin will remain a hedge against all politics and not disappointing al bitcoiners.

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Quote from: Haunebu on January 08, 2025, 02:45:27 AM

Heard about it and it's definitely getting exaggerated by the Chinese. A pandemic like COVID is an ultra rare event that probably comes around once every 200 years or even more based on my research.

on the Plus side, No recorded death yet so maybe a normal hmpv and not one made by Man.
I really don't want to imagine the collapse it would cause I'm this shaky economy.
It doesn't hurt to be cautious, countries can try increasing surveillance.

Quote from: Apocollapse on January 08, 2025, 03:14:01 AM

Personally I don't really care with any similar virus like corona where it's infectious by sneezing/contact with the illness and bad hygiene. It's because my lifestyle now was like lockdown during corona virus, I always wear mask every time I leave my home, bring hand sanitizer and wash my hand using soap.

You should
Because I doubt everyone you know or care about has said lifestyle.
Not to mention the impact it would have on the economy.

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Personally I don't really care with any similar virus like corona where it's infectious by sneezing/contact with the illness and bad hygiene. It's because my lifestyle now was like lockdown during corona virus, I always wear mask every time I leave my home, bring hand sanitizer and wash my hand using soap.

It doesn't mean I will not get this disease, but my lifestyle will prevent infected by this virus.

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Heard about it and it's definitely getting exaggerated by the Chinese. A pandemic like COVID is an ultra rare event that probably comes around once every 200 years or even more based on my research.

This new virus is most probably just one of many new viruses that flare up suddenly and fizzle out just as quickly in my honest opinion.

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Of course, panic occurs because media crews and influencers on social media are actively spreading the news for online notifications so that there will certainly be various responses. I think this is easy to read where it is going. if the action that arises is excessive from the community, it will become the main discussion and the direction of entrepreneurs in the health sector is very profitable with such conditions. What needs to be worried about is if one day a disease comes that when we seek treatment + vaccination, it does not get better and even gets worse.

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Quote from: naira on January 07, 2025, 02:19:40 PM

Based on what I know, you always know the most about conspiracies, right? and it is also enough of a start for me to start it with 2025 where HMPV began to be echoed. There is always something to be suspicious of, especially since the US is again led by Trump, who is not very politically favored by China.

I'm not really interested in conspiracy theories and despite my previous post, it really doesn't matter where these things originate from. Their consequences are more important. For example another pandemic would hurt China due to having a large population and being the "world's factory" needing to produce a lot and be able to ship them abroad.
But it will also hurt USA significantly and specifically Trump's plans. He wishes to bring back production to the US soil and re-start the factories. He also wishes to get out of the recession. Neither of which would be possible if another pandemic is spread.

Quote from: passwordnow on January 07, 2025, 05:56:28 PM

I've read some say that HMPV isn't a new virus and has been there many years ago.

Coronavirus was also not a new virus, it was first found in 1920's.
It's the new variants that are problematic specially when the virus is "mutated" and becomes more damaging to the patient's body like the COVID19 variant was.

It is even more dangerous when there is human intervention in the mutation of the virus... like in a virus that is produced in a lab...

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I've read some say that HMPV isn't a new virus and has been there many years ago. It's crazy that this is on all timing, I remember when covid-19 was at height, there was also another virus that was reported trying to spread somewhere but then it eventually lost the attention of the media.

Here's a quote from the "health experts".

Quote from: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hmpv-human-metapneumovirus-india-cases-confirmed-symptoms/

"Health experts have clarified that the HMPV is not a new virus; it was first identified in 2001 and it has been circulating in the entire world for many years," Indian Health Minister J. P. Nadda said Monday. "The health systems and surveillance networks of the country are vigilant and there is no reason to worry."

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Quote from: Stepstowealth on January 07, 2025, 04:23:06 PM

Quote from: pooya87 on January 06, 2025, 10:42:40 PM

It is definitely very suspicious specially when you put it together with the US political changes. Last time it was Trump in the office and he was waging an economic war on China. Then COVID19 was created in a lab and patient zero that was in found in the US first was covered up as a normal flu while it locked China up.

Again in 2024, after 4 years Trump is becoming US president again and he is already starting his economic war against the world by focusing on China the most. Now a new pandemic threat is rising once again!

I will not doubt it because there is a lot going on that we are unaware of. I am really just concerned about the situation because in my country the COVID really had a big effect on most of us that we are still in recovery. If there is another pandemic as deadly as COVID, it will cripple our struggling economy. I took the news of COVID at the initial stages as a rumor or not something so serious until it started locking down borders and keeping us indoors. This should be taken seriously, countries should already be proactive to avoid a breakout in their country.

The world is better prepared for any virus that has the same synonyms as COVID-19. The first epidemic took the world by surprise but this one might not have the same global effect. The HMPV has been around since 2001 when it was first discovered in the Netherlands. The presence of this virus has been reported in several countries before now. Maybe it is getting global attention because it is from China where the last pandemic originated from. Donald Trump will downplay this viruses just as he did to COVID.

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Quote from: naira on January 06, 2025, 02:09:33 PM

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Both HMPV and COVID-19 cause respiratory symptoms such as coughing, fever, congestion, and shortness of breath. They also spread through respiratory droplets.

HMPV: Peaks during winter and spring.
COVID-19: Spreads year-round due to evolving variants.
Post-COVID-19 lockdowns, surges in HMPV cases have been observed as populations re-expose themselves to respiratory pathogens.

As the title suggests, China has recently been shocked by the HMPV Virus or the abbreviation for Human Metapneumovirus Virus, where this virus is not much different from diseases that generally attack the respiratory tract such as flu, cough, runny nose, fever, and shortness of breath.

Based on the background of the virus, we may be reminded of Covid 19 which also originated from China. I mean is this another commotion that they are trying to spread to continue to disrupt the world's economic conditions which are just starting to recover. Of course I am a bit skeptical because based on the Corona case, how paralyzed the economy is. The lower middle class is the target, and do you know which sector is the most profitable during Covid 19? hospital medical equipment.

I just want to know your opinion on the HMPV Virus issue, maybe you can share your opinion and also whether in some countries it has become a topic of discussion?

Or is this all just nonsense that China is trying to exaggerate and they themselves will sell their anti-virus.

Your opinion is greatly appreciated

Many people around the world, particularly older generations, are likely to have had this HMPV virus in the past so it is nothing new. However hysteria gets clicks and that drives advertising revenue for news papers so they absolutely love these kind of made up controversies. While I have absolutely zero trust in the Chinese government to report on anything accurately, it is nothing to be alarmed about at the moment and there is no point stressing about these things. A few months ago the newspapers were pushing monkey pox as the latest disaster for humanity and that materialized into absolutely nothing. I guess if you spend all day chasing news, these sort of gloomy doomsday stories really stand out to you.

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Quote from: pooya87 on January 06, 2025, 10:42:40 PM

It is definitely very suspicious specially when you put it together with the US political changes. Last time it was Trump in the office and he was waging an economic war on China. Then COVID19 was created in a lab and patient zero that was in found in the US first was covered up as a normal flu while it locked China up.

Again in 2024, after 4 years Trump is becoming US president again and he is already starting his economic war against the world by focusing on China the most. Now a new pandemic threat is rising once again!

I will not doubt it because there is a lot going on that we are unaware of. I am really just concerned about the situation because in my country the COVID really had a big effect on most of us that we are still in recovery. If there is another pandemic as deadly as COVID, it will cripple our struggling economy. I took the news of COVID at the initial stages as a rumor or not something so serious until it started locking down borders and keeping us indoors. This should be taken seriously, countries should already be proactive to avoid a breakout in their country.

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