Topic: China is winning the Economy Wars - page 4. (Read 813 times)
China is known for such kind of strategies, they will help other countries specially those they know they can manipulate easily and then they will begin to deceive and seize territory. Just like what happened in my country.
If you really are worried about China becoming too powerful because they are a dictatorship and you would rather not see them that much powerful I would say you should stop buying stuff that are made in China, I have started doing that most recently and try to go full local and even though it is a bit more pricey it is not as pricey as you might think, maybe 10% to everything you spend but that is it. Obviously who would want 10% more spending but that also means if the whole world does that China suddenly becomes a very poor country once again.
Also if you are worried that China is killing people, you should check all the other big nations as well, even USA kills natives right now with poisoned water instead of directly shooting them. I say your own nation is much better than any other nation, at least your atrocities are your own.
Supporting your local entrepreneurs is a good thing but in my opinion, it will not be easy to overturn China via trade embargos, the reason for that is most of the raw materials and essential products are produced in their country. The only thing that could make a dent to this unstoppable juggernaut is by relocating the factories of many foreign products to other countries and sanctioning trade embargo for raw materials. But that will not be enough because there is still a real estate bubble in China with their ghost cities and their state backed companies that rake in billions upon billions of dollars, these companies can't be easily removed as it has its roots so deep in many other companies that it will topple if they ever pull out their investment.Also if you are worried that China is killing people, you should check all the other big nations as well, even USA kills natives right now with poisoned water instead of directly shooting them. I say your own nation is much better than any other nation, at least your atrocities are your own.
Regarding the killing of natives in America, the reason that they are different is that they have people who help defend them while in China, thousands have been missing ever since without any reason for them to be taken away, the so-called re-education camps are just a front to oppress the minorities in China, and families of these prisoners can't appeal to anyone as everyone sees this camp as a good thing thanks to life long propaganda and police state, this camps will stay there to oppress more minorities.
As China was able to get out of the Coronavirus pandemic and as a powerful country it is in advantages especially with the USA. What we could say China is winning the economic war. In the 2008 crisis, the most developed countries came together to get out of the crisis quickly.
It is possible that another agreement will happen now as it worked in the past but adapted to the needs of today.
It is possible that another agreement will happen now as it worked in the past but adapted to the needs of today.
If you really are worried about China becoming too powerful because they are a dictatorship and you would rather not see them that much powerful I would say you should stop buying stuff that are made in China, I have started doing that most recently and try to go full local and even though it is a bit more pricey it is not as pricey as you might think, maybe 10% to everything you spend but that is it. Obviously who would want 10% more spending but that also means if the whole world does that China suddenly becomes a very poor country once again.
It is not really possible to live without made in China products, almost everything was produced and exported to each corners of this world and the solution to stop them is to build and encourage the national company and products but pricing may not be affordable for everyone so they always looks for cheaper that is why China is getting bigger in terms of exportation. 
Of course a lot of people has been pointing out to this and it annoys me a lot whenever I see it. African leaders are just worthless fools, they are putting their subjects in difficult situation. What pisses me off a lot is that Africa is blessed so many natural resources, but their leaders are misusing what they have and looting their money and sending their own kids abroad to developed countries this is pure wickedness and shows how evil these African leaders can be.
Africans are not doing anything about the situation their leaders have led them into, they should really be reacting about this and looking for ways to stop their leaders. The funny thing is that their leaders will collect these loans and put the people the country in debt and then steal those money they got from the loan and the country won’t achieved anything with it, not to talk of paying back.
Africans are not doing anything about the situation their leaders have led them into, they should really be reacting about this and looking for ways to stop their leaders. The funny thing is that their leaders will collect these loans and put the people the country in debt and then steal those money they got from the loan and the country won’t achieved anything with it, not to talk of paying back.
If you really are worried about China becoming too powerful because they are a dictatorship and you would rather not see them that much powerful I would say you should stop buying stuff that are made in China, I have started doing that most recently and try to go full local and even though it is a bit more pricey it is not as pricey as you might think, maybe 10% to everything you spend but that is it. Obviously who would want 10% more spending but that also means if the whole world does that China suddenly becomes a very poor country once again.
the problem is that most things that look to be locally made are either importing parts from China or are made in China but under a local license so they have a different "made in xxx" written on them.
the fact is that most industries already rely on China and other similar countries. that is why everything in most big countries like US destabilized the day Chinese boarders were closed!
What do we expect. They are good in business and the disease comes from their place so they know how to react with it including on how make business with the disease coming from them. I hate this people taking advantage on everything when in fact they are the reason why pandemic happen. Anyway, I do hope that china will somehow help on some countries like poor countries to somehow recover or to help the people that get sick with thw virus. This to make something great in times of this hardships for other are trying to survive while them trying to get more riches.
If you really are worried about China becoming too powerful because they are a dictatorship and you would rather not see them that much powerful I would say you should stop buying stuff that are made in China, I have started doing that most recently and try to go full local and even though it is a bit more pricey it is not as pricey as you might think, maybe 10% to everything you spend but that is it. Obviously who would want 10% more spending but that also means if the whole world does that China suddenly becomes a very poor country once again.
Also if you are worried that China is killing people, you should check all the other big nations as well, even USA kills natives right now with poisoned water instead of directly shooting them. I say your own nation is much better than any other nation, at least your atrocities are your own.
Also if you are worried that China is killing people, you should check all the other big nations as well, even USA kills natives right now with poisoned water instead of directly shooting them. I say your own nation is much better than any other nation, at least your atrocities are your own.
China is under communist political leaderships, expect that they control everything under their jurisdictions, they are now starting to extend their powers and the tactics is how OP is trying to explained, a very good strategy that they don't need to go to war in order to control another countries but instead they are using their money to penetrates and have the power to control whatever poor countries that will fall to this tactics.
Not only China though, there are tons of other country that does this as well even US. It may not seems as harsh as how China does this but you do know for a fact that if a country put up a good amount of money in another country, those country will receive some privilleges. So how does this different from China?
but of course this are only humor and none can proof it right or wrong.
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Besides that I dont really see how is that an issue though. Basically China wont be giving you free money without signing any deal to repay them. If the country sign them, that means they should already know the consequences incase they wont be able to pay. If they have no ability to pay, then they shouldnt be taking those money in the first place
Of course thats the main objective of china to lend money as many as they can so each country is under their control because of the debt.this is how China is very smart in some ways.
and they are now taking the fruit of their actions.
think China wants to beat the domination of the USA as a superpower,
Without a doubt who has the money and power, he will win.
as we know, the population of china is more than 6 billion,
and they need resources, land, food, and perhaps land for their new place.
so they take advantage of that "money" moment to benefit themselves.
China does that because the USA is the biggest competitor so far, and no matter if it's difficult, China will keep trying to dominate the market. I think China has its own resources, and they can create many products to compete with the USA. People will look for a good product but not cheap. With the trade war that already happens, both country, China and the USA, will try their best to dominate the market. Without a doubt who has the money and power, he will win.
as we know, the population of china is more than 6 billion,
and they need resources, land, food, and perhaps land for their new place.
so they take advantage of that "money" moment to benefit themselves.
Words such as "What is the difference between China and Nazi Germany? Nazi Germany have a Swastika on their flag " are relevant rather for the period of the Cultural Revolution (then really terrible things happened). Now China is gradually becoming what the rest of the time was the United States-an industrial and scientific world hegemon that everyone fears only because of such a huge force. Whether this is good or bad is unclear but the fact remains that China is the engine of the world economy and if it stops it will happen "new 2008" when the US collapsed. Here is and think that better-apples or pears.
A decade back, everyone were talking about China overtaking the United States to become the no.1 economy in the globe. But that has not happened, because Chinese economic growth has slowed down. American brands such as Apple, Boeing, Amazon, Walmart, and Microsoft remains a step ahead of their Chinese competitors. It will take decades for the Chinese corporations to compete with them. It may be impossible at the moment in current world state where real wars and conquering is not a thing anymore
The Belt and Road Initiative is a scary neo-domination tactic that China is employing right now. This is a money trap for the poor countries (including mine) that promises prosperity but when in fact it is a ruse to take a piece of a nation's land.
Here is how I understood this money trap works. China is creating a new Silk Road that is not based of lands but most of it are in the water and air, they will offer help to third world countries by giving them funds to create infrastructures like ports, skyscrapers or airfields. There will be a timeframe for this help to be paid and as a poor country they offer exorbitant amount of money which is impossible if not difficult to be paid and then here is where the trap works, when the country can't pay the debt then the other option happens where China will have full control over the infrastructure including the land, basically they are buying lands from this nation without really buying it. Look at what happened to Sri Lanka when they haven't paid their debt.
What is the difference between China and Nazi Germany? Nazi Germany have a Swastika on their flag
Source for what happened to Sri Lanka: https://www.bbc.com/news/business-40044113
Here is how I understood this money trap works. China is creating a new Silk Road that is not based of lands but most of it are in the water and air, they will offer help to third world countries by giving them funds to create infrastructures like ports, skyscrapers or airfields. There will be a timeframe for this help to be paid and as a poor country they offer exorbitant amount of money which is impossible if not difficult to be paid and then here is where the trap works, when the country can't pay the debt then the other option happens where China will have full control over the infrastructure including the land, basically they are buying lands from this nation without really buying it. Look at what happened to Sri Lanka when they haven't paid their debt.
What is the difference between China and Nazi Germany? Nazi Germany have a Swastika on their flag
Source for what happened to Sri Lanka: https://www.bbc.com/news/business-40044113
think China wants to beat the domination of the USA as a superpower,
Without a doubt who has the money and power, he will win.
as we know, the population of china is more than 6 billion,
and they need resources, land, food, and perhaps land for their new place.
so they take advantage of that "money" moment to benefit themselves.
China can stand on their own because there are so many countries that asking for their help also considering that their ally now is Russia that we also know one of the growing country now.
I support OP for this since it is obvious that Chinese is winning all the wars they are engaging now.
But i hope without taking advantage about the weakness of other small countries.
the population of china is more than 6 billion,
Get your facts straight boy, no country has exceeded the 2 billion population mark, what are you smoking? It became obvious during the pandemic. Even if the problem exist, their production is non-stop in the aspect of services and more. This I think is the reason why many countries had/ are having thoughts that the virus is intended to be made and to be used against others regions. Unlike other countries wherein if one area is negatively affected by a phenomenon, many things are making the adjustment, hence the whole country is affevted perhaps in this case. The way how they cope up with problems and development simply boosts their economy to be on top of other countries.
No one really knows if the problem we are all experiencing is part of their economic strategy except the country itself. Making an assumption will just more likely move the focus away from what should be done, which is to engage with solving the problem right now.
Let me widen your perspective on why I believe China is winning the economy wars, one of them is their exclusive stock market, they do not allow foreign investments get out of the confines of their stock market which means that the money is circulating inside. Another is the real estate bubble, they have built so many ghost cities that will help make the bubble expand(I do not know much about real estate bubble but I know that there are a lot of ghost cities in China), they are pioneering high-end technology with specialization towards surveillance and the growth of tech cities increased over the decade. Now I do not believe too much on the conspiracy that the virus spread intentionally, I think that it is a lousy way to point fingers and blame rather than solve the problem at hand. No one really knows if the problem we are all experiencing is part of their economic strategy except the country itself. Making an assumption will just more likely move the focus away from what should be done, which is to engage with solving the problem right now.
The Belt and Road Initiative is a scary neo-domination tactic that China is employing right now. This is a money trap for the poor countries (including mine) that promises prosperity but when in fact it is a ruse to take a piece of a nation's land.
Here is how I understood this money trap works. China is creating a new Silk Road that is not based of lands but most of it are in the water and air, they will offer help to third world countries by giving them funds to create infrastructures like ports, skyscrapers or airfields. There will be a timeframe for this help to be paid and as a poor country they offer exorbitant amount of money which is impossible if not difficult to be paid and then here is where the trap works, when the country can't pay the debt then the other option happens where China will have full control over the infrastructure including the land, basically they are buying lands from this nation without really buying it. Look at what happened to Sri Lanka when they haven't paid their debt.
What is the difference between China and Nazi Germany? Nazi Germany have a Swastika on their flag
Source for what happened to Sri Lanka: https://www.bbc.com/news/business-40044113
Here is how I understood this money trap works. China is creating a new Silk Road that is not based of lands but most of it are in the water and air, they will offer help to third world countries by giving them funds to create infrastructures like ports, skyscrapers or airfields. There will be a timeframe for this help to be paid and as a poor country they offer exorbitant amount of money which is impossible if not difficult to be paid and then here is where the trap works, when the country can't pay the debt then the other option happens where China will have full control over the infrastructure including the land, basically they are buying lands from this nation without really buying it. Look at what happened to Sri Lanka when they haven't paid their debt.
What is the difference between China and Nazi Germany? Nazi Germany have a Swastika on their flag
Source for what happened to Sri Lanka: https://www.bbc.com/news/business-40044113
think China wants to beat the domination of the USA as a superpower,
Without a doubt who has the money and power, he will win.
as we know, the population of china is more than 6 billion,
and they need resources, land, food, and perhaps land for their new place.
so they take advantage of that "money" moment to benefit themselves.
It became obvious during the pandemic. Even if the problem exist, their production is non-stop in the aspect of services and more. This I think is the reason why many countries had/ are having thoughts that the virus is intended to be made and to be used against others regions. Unlike other countries wherein if one area is negatively affected by a phenomenon, many things are making the adjustment, hence the whole country is affevted perhaps in this case. The way how they cope up with problems and development simply boosts their economy to be on top of other countries.
No one really knows if the problem we are all experiencing is part of their economic strategy except the country itself. Making an assumption will just more likely move the focus away from what should be done, which is to engage with solving the problem right now.
No one really knows if the problem we are all experiencing is part of their economic strategy except the country itself. Making an assumption will just more likely move the focus away from what should be done, which is to engage with solving the problem right now.
China know how to play games, just search how many countries that has a debt to China, As I am guessing, I think China will give some debt deduction when the country opens their exportation of their product and that means getting a profit for China while paying the debt for another countries. America has a trillion $ debt to China which will likely be paid FOREVER coz it will keep rising and that's a trap by China. Disclaimer only fools would believe that the virus is made scientifically by China, America already stated that it existed and born naturally from strains. I mean, I hate China from different reason but not this one. LOL
China is very good at propaganda and wraps colonialism 5.0 with the OBOR program. BRI only promises development in all countries but does not guarantee growth because the wealth of a country is siphoned off by China through the tribute that these countries have to pay to China. Through OBOR China uses its sharp power to ensure food, economic, and social security for its large number of citizens. OBOR provides guaranteed employment, guarantees the circulation of money in China and what is very interesting is an additional guarantee of foreign exchange dollars going to China.
Unfortunately, many government officials and statesmen in many countries do not understand China's strategy, instead they give a welcome to China.
Words such as "What is the difference between China and Nazi Germany? Nazi Germany have a Swastika on their flag " are relevant rather for the period of the Cultural Revolution (then really terrible things happened). Now China is gradually becoming what the rest of the time was the United States-an industrial and scientific world hegemon that everyone fears only because of such a huge force. Whether this is good or bad is unclear but the fact remains that China is the engine of the world economy and if it stops it will happen "new 2008" when the US collapsed. Here is and think that better-apples or pears.
A decade back, everyone were talking about China overtaking the United States to become the no.1 economy in the globe. But that has not happened, because Chinese economic growth has slowed down. American brands such as Apple, Boeing, Amazon, Walmart, and Microsoft remains a step ahead of their Chinese competitors. It will take decades for the Chinese corporations to compete with them.
Words such as "What is the difference between China and Nazi Germany? Nazi Germany have a Swastika on their flag " are relevant rather for the period of the Cultural Revolution (then really terrible things happened). Now China is gradually becoming what the rest of the time was the United States-an industrial and scientific world hegemon that everyone fears only because of such a huge force. Whether this is good or bad is unclear but the fact remains that China is the engine of the world economy and if it stops it will happen "new 2008" when the US collapsed. Here is and think that better-apples or pears.
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Almost everybody around the world is aware that China is a surveillance country which also one of the reason why the last year protest occurred.
But he missunderstand what was written in the manuscript link he shared concern what in Sri Lanka's and the control of neighboring countries are what 95% of all developed countries does lets be honest here.
OP, you are spreading negative information about the Chinese government and I don't think this is good for every one of us because the source of the debt Sri Lanka's own the Chinese government was their previous President Mahinda Rajapaksa. However, every third world country usually signs an agreement of a firm stake in some portion of the industry they borrowed funds to build if they are struggling to repay the loan till the loan is totally paid in full.
No, I am not spreading it, I am merely scratching the surface on these so called negativity about the country. Have you heard about the Concentration camps for the Uyghurs which is mostly Muslim population? Have you heard about Tianamen Square Massacre? Did you know that China is a surveillance state?If you think about idolizing China, do some searching on the web, they have articles about the questions above. You should know better not to side with China on this matter. Regarding the debt, you think that it is fair to take the infrastructure and the land? And do not forget that they replaced most of the employees to Chinese citizen, so basically China has a land in Sri Lanka. I do not spread negative information, I am just telling the truth.
I dont idolizing the Chinese government neither did I side them. What I'm trying to point out is that what they did to Sri Lanka's when they are unable to pay the debt is normal. Mind you, it not that they took the infrastructure and land as you said because they are to receive some % of the port income until the debt is pay in full. Besides, it the contract they both signed and US, Germany also does that either. OP, you are spreading negative information about the Chinese government and I don't think this is good for every one of us because the source of the debt Sri Lanka's own the Chinese government was their previous President Mahinda Rajapaksa. However, every third world country usually signs an agreement of a firm stake in some portion of the industry they borrowed funds to build if they are struggling to repay the loan till the loan is totally paid in full.
There is nothing as negativity with the thread. The economy plan of china through the silk road development is being briefed. There is nothing bad spread against the Chinese government. China is competing and compared against the economic development of USA. To keep them on the track China tries to have control on the neighbouring countries. The true plan of China isn't been still understood by the countries supported by China.
China will remain as the manufacturing powerhouse for the next few decades.
True, but will they be able to export their products like before? the answer should be NO because trades across borders are now slowed down and stopped and everyone hates China for the virus we are all a victim of, even if China is the real culprit or not that doesn't matter and even USA has taken strict decisions.Quote
But they are plagued with issues such as red tape, bureaucracy and unproductive workforce
Unproductive workers is a result of lack of education and no practical knowledge being given to the graduates in most countries, we are only producing animals from universities unless we teach them how to start their own business. Right now anyone who graduates from universities is just looking to get a job, some agree for a higher pay while some for lower wages. The problem is, we need more entrepreneurs than workers.Jump to: