China is winning the Economy Wars - page 5.

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Quote from: Sanitough on August 17, 2020, 05:33:56 PM

I don't understand why other countries struggle to control the spread of the covid-19 while China as the first country who tallied the highest cases were able to control it and it does not have to reach 100,000 cases unlike other countries who already have millions of infections.

This sounds weird to other people, that's why they accuse china of spreading the virus and not telling to the world they already have the vaccine, there's a lot of theories that are going out but none of these matters anymore now.

So yes, China is winning as they are ahead of any of us, while some countries put limitations on the economic operation, China are already full blast now, they even supply face mask and everything needed to prevent and combat covid-19 from spreading.

I don't want to point fingers here but I'm kinda have a suspicious feeling that they know on how to defeat covid but they keep it as a secret so that the other country will suffer and they will lead on the economic race. And see what happen now china is powerful country due to this incident.

But I really think china have the vaccine since imagine how fast they control the situation and the casualty there is so low.

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Quote from: Sanitough on August 17, 2020, 05:33:56 PM

I don't understand why other countries struggle to control the spread of the covid-19 while China as the first country who tallied the highest cases were able to control it and it does not have to reach 100,000 cases unlike other countries who already have millions of infections.

This sounds weird to other people, that's why they accuse china of spreading the virus and not telling to the world they already have the vaccine, there's a lot of theories that are going out but none of these matters anymore now.

So yes, China is winning as they are ahead of any of us, while some countries put limitations on the economic operation, China are already full blast now, they even supply face mask and everything needed to prevent and combat covid-19 from spreading.

though there are so many conspiracy theories surrounding about this pandemic. but i guess, one thing that China did was strict lockdown before. i think that's their advantage, they had stopped the infection early, though not fully. and afterwards, strict health protocols. also, take note that their numbers are really not the actual numbers. some were not reported. anyway, i believe there is no winner in this pandemic. the global population is suffering and not one country can address these problems

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I don't understand why other countries struggle to control the spread of the covid-19 while China as the first country who tallied the highest cases were able to control it and it does not have to reach 100,000 cases unlike other countries who already have millions of infections.

This sounds weird to other people, that's why they accuse china of spreading the virus and not telling to the world they already have the vaccine, there's a lot of theories that are going out but none of these matters anymore now.

So yes, China is winning as they are ahead of any of us, while some countries put limitations on the economic operation, China are already full blast now, they even supply face mask and everything needed to prevent and combat covid-19 from spreading.

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I feel like China could get stronger from this pandemic war thing and afterwards. They had the first one and they have worked towards getting better and according to everything they are saying they basically beat it by record speed because they closed it down and build a hospital there from simple stuff and just recovered everyone and let the country get back to how it was before anything could happen.

I am saying that if they are right and they really get rid of it without anything bad happening, that means they should basically be stronger by a mile right now, look at USA and other countries they had it during spring and they still do have it in summer a bit but getting better and even with that economy went down but right now recovering, China had it in autumn, by winter it was almost over, they must be doing MUCH better thanks to timing of it.

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Quote from: lixer on August 17, 2020, 05:07:07 PM

True, but will they be able to export their products like before? the answer should be NO because trades across borders are now slowed down and stopped and everyone hates China for the virus we are all a victim of, even if China is the real culprit or not that doesn't matter and even USA has taken strict decisions.

China's population is of the 4x the size of America and 20% of the world population, the population itself is large enough to be satisfy. Taking care of other countries around the world is just like looking for a little extra to take away and something to save for the country. USA is not capable enough to fight China alone and the leadership at the moment is the challenging part with others nations relationship. One will be surprised how trade are still going on among the countries with present restrictions.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on August 16, 2020, 08:07:08 AM

China will remain as the manufacturing powerhouse for the next few decades.

True, but will they be able to export their products like before? the answer should be NO because trades across borders are now slowed down and stopped and everyone hates China for the virus we are all a victim of, even if China is the real culprit or not that doesn't matter and even USA has taken strict decisions.

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But they are plagued with issues such as red tape, bureaucracy and unproductive workforce

Unproductive workers is a result of lack of education and no practical knowledge being given to the graduates in most countries, we are only producing animals from universities unless we teach them how to start their own business. Right now anyone who graduates from universities is just looking to get a job, some agree for a higher pay while some for lower wages. The problem is, we need more entrepreneurs than workers.

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Quote from: Kong Hey Pakboy on August 17, 2020, 04:54:19 AM

China is really defeating other countries in its economy, and even the coronavirus originated from China. They were still able to manage and have full control to stop the virus from spreading with the help of their discipline citizens. It is why they already have lifted their lockdown and became more productive for their economy to become stable and grow in the middle of this crisis.

They were able to control the corona virus because they have a dictator sort of government and everyone is forced to obey them if they want to avoid any gruesome punishments from their government. While in democratic countries it is hard to contain the virus because people feel like they are free to do anything they like and don't have to listen to the orders passed by government and even caught are barely punished.

China was able to control the deaths and cases also because of their flexibility in terms of changes the made and the speed at which they made new hospitals and increased the number of tests.

China gets a lot of flake but I really wonder if they are to be blamed because they themselves got hit and if they managed to contain it while others cannot, this surely is not their mistake rather the un-adaptability of others to react.

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What is new here?
Nothing!.
This has been happening for a long time, so much so that in order not to go that far, perhaps we have to start in the first industrial revolution, technology, economic power has always been imperialist, 300 years can be quite optimistic to include it in a contemporary framework.

If China does what it does, the question is how they allow it, where are the bureaucratic entities, created by the countries of the world and led by the first countries of the developed world to achieve a just world. The UN, what is the use?

It is merely hypocrisy, politicians selling our resources to get cash. Forever, unfair way in its payment characteristics, of those loans.

Example: Resources managed for 20-30 years, 80% profit for Chinese companies, hopefully 20% for governments and something for the people.

This is known! because they allow it ...

Here there is no war against small countries;
Arrows, sticks and machetes against bullets, it has never been fair.
But it seems that undermining countries, with old imperialist techniques, if it is.

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Quote from: Lorence.xD on August 15, 2020, 02:21:14 AM

The Belt and Road Initiative is a scary neo-domination tactic that China is employing right now. This is a money trap for the poor countries (including mine) that promises prosperity but when in fact it is a ruse to take a piece of a nation's land.

Here is how I understood this money trap works. China is creating a new Silk Road that is not based of lands but most of it are in the water and air, they will offer help to third world countries by giving them funds to create infrastructures like ports, skyscrapers or airfields. There will be a timeframe for this help to be paid and as a poor country they offer exorbitant amount of money which is impossible if not difficult to be paid and then here is where the trap works, when the country can't pay the debt then the other option happens where China will have full control over the infrastructure including the land, basically they are buying lands from this nation without really buying it. Look at what happened to Sri Lanka when they haven't paid their debt.

It will be natural that China will be the first one to have a better economy here in Southeast Asia. It is true that it originated from their country but having no travel ban to other countries is such a careless way to take care of their people. They must have just let their people have their own way and spread the virus all over the world and it will be eventually them that can control of the virus because they are the first one to have it. They can control it because they have the opportunity to monetize their time creating some ways to prevent it.

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China is really defeating other countries in its economy, and even the coronavirus originated from China. They were still able to manage and have full control to stop the virus from spreading with the help of their discipline citizens. It is why they already have lifted their lockdown and became more productive for their economy to become stable and grow in the middle of this crisis.

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Quote from: Lorence.xD on August 16, 2020, 11:23:18 PM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on August 16, 2020, 08:07:08 AM

China will remain as the manufacturing powerhouse for the next few decades. They have the perfect combination of productive workers, low wages and lax regulations. There are countries such as India and Indonesia, where the wages are much lower. But they are plagued with issues such as red tape, bureaucracy and unproductive workforce.

The lax regulations in my opinion is the reason that they have a cheap labor, with workers not having a safety work environment and for this reason the costs are cut into just paying wage for the workers, they also abuse the fact that Chinese people are industrious and use it to get them work for longer hours. Regarding red tape, I do not have that much say but they have a very strict policy regarding corruption, this is the most admirable thing that I know of (I might be wrong in this).

Incidents of work related accidents are much lower in China when compared to the other countries. That means that even with lax regulations, they are maintaining high security standards. And higher productivity doesn't necessarily mean working for longer hours. While working, the Chinese workers concentrate on nothing else and they maintain very high standards.

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Quote from: AniviaBtc on August 16, 2020, 08:41:57 AM

Obviously, they are. In China, the number of covid cases right now are only 600+ even if the virus originated from them. That is a sign that they are having a good control and steps towards handling this Covid-19 virus in their country. With that, possibly the businesses in their country are operating so that their economy is not that much affected. Being a country with a business-minded mindset is really what helps their economy become stable and grow. You can't deny that they are really having a massive manufacturing companies that operates in their country and being a communist country is an advantage for them. US really have a downward movement in its stock market but they don't have any choice but to fight for it.

Their health protocols is good that is the reason why they managed to end the spreading of the virus in their country in just short period of time. The virus originated from them but they did not suffer like the other countries because a lot of countries are still having a hard time to fight the pandemic. Like in U.S. even though they have the best medical facilities in the world, a lot of people are still dying because of the virus because their health protocols are not strict like in China. A lot of people there do not believe that the virus is really existing and it is the reason why a lot are been infected. Actually you are wrong because even though a lot of people are still have the virus, the stock market in the US are keep making all time high especially the indices.

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Quote from: bitgolden on August 16, 2020, 04:43:39 AM

In order for China to drop down other nations have to get out, and until they find a cheaper and better place they are not going to get out.

Right now facebook and apple and some other big ones are switching their work force to India slowly, they are not doing it right away but they are doing it slowly, that means eventually one day there will not be any apple product from china and most of it will be from India with some of it from other smaller nations like Vietnam or whatever. That is why I think China is buying so many companies out and they are building so many of their own companies, because they know that building and manufacturing stuff for other companies will eventually end, so they need to have their own source of income in order to keep being a big power and they are doing that very well too.

This is a very bold move for Western companies to move their production in other countries, I have heard that Apple is on its last preparations to go to India for the production facility, this will be a big blow because Apple have a lot of factories in China which will surely affect labor force.

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on August 16, 2020, 08:07:08 AM

China will remain as the manufacturing powerhouse for the next few decades. They have the perfect combination of productive workers, low wages and lax regulations. There are countries such as India and Indonesia, where the wages are much lower. But they are plagued with issues such as red tape, bureaucracy and unproductive workforce.

The lax regulations in my opinion is the reason that they have a cheap labor, with workers not having a safety work environment and for this reason the costs are cut into just paying wage for the workers, they also abuse the fact that Chinese people are industrious and use it to get them work for longer hours. Regarding red tape, I do not have that much say but they have a very strict policy regarding corruption, this is the most admirable thing that I know of (I might be wrong in this).

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Obviously, they are. In China, the number of covid cases right now are only 600+ even if the virus originated from them. That is a sign that they are having a good control and steps towards handling this Covid-19 virus in their country. With that, possibly the businesses in their country are operating so that their economy is not that much affected. Being a country with a business-minded mindset is really what helps their economy become stable and grow. You can't deny that they are really having a massive manufacturing companies that operates in their country and being a communist country is an advantage for them. US really have a downward movement in its stock market but they don't have any choice but to fight for it.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on August 16, 2020, 08:07:08 AM

China will remain as the manufacturing powerhouse for the next few decades. They have the perfect combination of productive workers, low wages and lax regulations. There are countries such as India and Indonesia, where the wages are much lower. But they are plagued with issues such as red tape, bureaucracy and unproductive workforce.

That is because China leaders lead their people to work and they allow young minds to become productive and be useful to their country. They are all taking part in their economic growth unlike in India and Indonesia.

We ought to blame China for this crisis and a huge business deal. Almost all countries are getting medical supplies from them, in fact, not only that, we are almost getting everything from them, gadgets, equipment and etc...
I/We feel the conspiracy with the current situation but only a few countries have been firing them back while the others keep silent and just listening.

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China will remain as the manufacturing powerhouse for the next few decades. They have the perfect combination of productive workers, low wages and lax regulations. There are countries such as India and Indonesia, where the wages are much lower. But they are plagued with issues such as red tape, bureaucracy and unproductive workforce.

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This is the reason why China can become a large country that rivals America, even the Chinese economy is among the strongest.
China, like other colonialist countries, prefers to rule and control the world, not fighting militarily but choosing the economy war.
One of the strategies is money trapping against several poor countries as explained in the opening post. Therefore, being careful
with offers of assistance from a colonialist country like China must be done, if our country don't want to have the same fate with
the country of Sri Lanka.

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Recently I watch about this kind of things doing by the china they are allowing the other countries to make a loan to their country and there is a good impact too to the country who borrowed the money from China because they can now help their community like

Build infrastructure.
Clean their country
Fight for crime
Empower their government

With the use, the use of that money but think again, what if you didn't pay all of that debt the only thing that the china will do right now is you just need to allow them to control your countries like the import and export and more there are a lot of countries right now falling on this trap.

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In order for China to drop down other nations have to get out, and until they find a cheaper and better place they are not going to get out.

Right now facebook and apple and some other big ones are switching their work force to India slowly, they are not doing it right away but they are doing it slowly, that means eventually one day there will not be any apple product from china and most of it will be from India with some of it from other smaller nations like Vietnam or whatever. That is why I think China is buying so many companies out and they are building so many of their own companies, because they know that building and manufacturing stuff for other companies will eventually end, so they need to have their own source of income in order to keep being a big power and they are doing that very well too.

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Quote from: Ayiranorea on August 15, 2020, 11:35:53 PM

Quote from: hulla on August 15, 2020, 05:52:10 PM

OP, you are spreading negative information about the Chinese government and I don't think this is good for every one of us because the source of the debt Sri Lanka's own the Chinese government was their previous President Mahinda Rajapaksa. However, every third world country usually signs an agreement of a firm stake in some portion of the industry they borrowed funds to build if they are struggling to repay the loan till the loan is totally paid in full.

There is nothing as negativity with the thread. The economy plan of china through the silk road development is being briefed. There is nothing bad spread against the Chinese government. China is competing and compared against the economic development of USA. To keep them on the track China tries to have control on the neighbouring countries. The true plan of China isn't been still understood by the countries supported by China.

The government of China is really smart and they are now dominating the world, their performance in these past years are keep increasing and they keep climbing up in the ladders in terms of ranking country's power. Actually there is a popular meme right now in my country and it is about reverse card because a lot of country banned flight from China but now it seems that the China banning a lot of commercial flights from a lot of countries. Observe their economy, the stock market their fall but it bounce back easily because they curb the infected persons. The people in China are now living in normal. We should be aware that most of the equipments using in hospitals to treat and prrvent covid are been made in China and been distributed around the world. What I want to just say is Chinese government is so smart and they are really winning while a lot of countries are still suffering because of the pandemic.

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