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legendary
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I expect English is not your first language. This is not a ctiticism.

I'm from India and yes, I proudly say that English isn't my first language, but we still respect it and write the capital 'E'.

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No. You'll have to define the member you are referring to. That would be the only possible way for me to answer your question.
The " volunteer" aspect I hope we have cleared up now.

Marlboroza I was referring to. You've been behind his back since I was watching the latest of the thread.

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Your premise seems to be that I have some financial motivation for this thread.
That has been debunked conclusively since I have volunteered to wear their signature and all of the earnings can be directly sent to good causes or even donated to the forum for as many years as I post.

I got your point now, that even if you're not their part but just show their advertisement, you expect your "unofficial" earnings to be sent to the forum or to some good cause. Maybe I'm right now.  Cheesy

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The purpose is as stated to ensure chipmixer has access to information regarding the behaviors of those members they are sponsoring.

That's good, but why not state these things to DarkStar first and then go to Chipmixer while you know that DarkStar is your way to reach them?

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You probably should take some time to read the thread rather than rushing in hoping to say whatever you think could garner you favour with chipmixer that could potentially lead to you being allowed back on the chipmixer campaign.

For your info, I never ever topped their max posts even once since I was in their campaign. Was just in it because I loved their *no minimum posts" rule. Trust me, I'm not like those dying to get a spot in it (I never gave up and never misbehaved when removed out of the one and only highest paid campaign) and I'm not in a hurry to get into it as well. Wink

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You must realise that most long term members have no need to sig spam. Any member that has been here pre 2017 and certainly pre 2014 should not need to wear sig scavenging btc via sig payments.
Best not to judge others by your own failures.

Are you a teacher? Because I'm getting a feeling that this is a class going on. Cheesy And my failure? Uh yeah, I just earned BTC but always spent it because I'm a spender and not a saving personality. I love to spend it as money, that's my point of view that you won't understand. Good for you though.

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There are only 2 possibilities for pre 2014 members wearing sig to earn btc.

1. Total losers that just fucked up 2 huge bulls and are not wealthy.
2.  Greed.

I'm not wealthy, seriously. I just spent everything as I said.
Greed?! Umm yeah, somewhat. Cheesy I hope this satisfied your ego after hearing this.

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Also once you define the member you are referring to ( why scared?) We will see analyse them in public...
I wonder if you will keep avoiding telling me which member you are specifically referring  to?

Told you above. But scared?! Neh, I don't even fear God now, just think where your "uncomplicated fear" comes in my mind. Wooaahh! Scared!  Roll Eyes

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Hurry up, I don't wish to waste much time on those afraid to answer questions.

If you are too scared to answer ? Why join in?

Look up a bit again, you've got your answer already about that "afraid" part. Smiley

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The fact you were removed, and posters like thepharmacist remain, is .....well you work it out.


I'm not jealous enough yet to figure it out, once I believe my mind is in such state, I'll definitely try to work it out. Thanks for the suggestion.
legendary
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but I'd urge everyone who are willing to do something - please learn a lot before applying for any signature campaign as it takes efforts to be in one, as well as your knowledge is all that matters for which you get paid. During this pandemic period, I guess we all have basic internet facility available at our homes, so it's better if you'd spend more time looking into so many different aspects (and even courses if you'd like to learn something else) and you may then come to teach everyone about it if you explore and create something new from your skills.

E-X-A-C-T-L-Y! You're definitely right! There so much free courses, for example Coursera (the biggest platfrom for online courses) have made all own courses free. It's time to learn something about crypto currency or maybe more. And not bitching about being reject in Chipmixer application.

Bitcoin course which is free now - https://www.coursera.org/learn/cryptocurrency . It's better to spend time on this.
legendary
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The accusations had to come from somewhere and the most obvious culprits would have been a minority of users associated with that particular language board.

For those unfamiliar with the situation, here is the same user (Kalemder) trying to become Merit Source before those plans were thankfully countered by users: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/march-2020-update-kalemder-merit-source-application-for-the-turkish-board-5183702


Also, nobody brings up HugeBlackWoman except for him. Probably because nobody cares.

Yeah that was a dead giveaway.

To get to the topic, ChipMixer does have 1 Turkish member: Kalemder.

Not anymore: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17P52DifaD7YfvzLkX3wrxGVpKcaPHY4y57ZpI-FK754

Thus the recent wave of accusations of racism.
legendary
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You should have a look at some of the earliest Signature Campaigns - the Campaign Managers were enticing participants to created between 4,000 and 6,000 posts *per month*.  Creating shit posts for pennies isn't just a new experience, it's been entrenched in the Forum practically since the dawn of BitCoin itself.
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Eh, i remember times when Chipmixer was just a campaign for lazy nerds which couldn't find worthy ICO bounty (some of them could awarded you with 1 btc for a month with shitty signature) . But now, after ico's death there too much drama about this signature campaign.

Exactly true, there was a time when nobody took Chipmixer campaign so seriously as the days when it started, BTC was not even $1k (if I'm not wrong) and the payment was BTC0.0375 max which still is, the only difference is the price that has caught the eyes of all these members who are willing to be a part of their campaign.

You'll have to detail who you're taking about specifically. Which member?
Who is the somebody?



I believe that if English would have been a first language of yours, you may not have questioned me this.  Grin
Don't try to pretend a fool here, you already know whom I'm speaking about.


I expect English is not your first language. This is not a ctiticism.

No. You'll have to define the member you are referring to. That would be the only possible way for me to answer your question.
The " volunteer" aspect I hope we have cleared up now.

Your premise seems to be that I have some financial motivation for this thread.
That has been debunked conclusively since I have volunteered to wear their signature and all of the earnings can be directly sent to good causes or even donated to the forum for as many years as I post.

The purpose is as stated to ensure chipmixer has access to information regarding the behaviors of those members they are sponsoring.

You probably should take some time to read the thread rather than rushing in hoping to say whatever you think could garner you favour with chipmixer that could potentially lead to you being allowed back on the chipmixer campaign.

You must realise that most long term members have no need to sig spam. Any member that has been here pre 2017 and certainly pre 2014 should not need to wear sig scavenging btc via sig payments.
Best not to judge others by your own failures.

Keep spamming your sig and milking the forum though.  I mean clearly you have failed these last years to escape the need to wear a sig Smiley

There are only 2 possibilities for pre 2014 members wearing sig to earn btc.

1. Total losers that just fucked up 2 huge bulls and are not wealthy.
2.  Greed.

So enough derailing with possible motives for presenting independently verifiable evidence of untrustworthy behaviors.

Also once you define the member you are referring to ( why scared?) We will see analyse them in public...
I wonder if you will keep avoiding telling me which member you are specifically referring  to?

Hurry up, I don't wish to waste much time on those afraid to answer questions.

If you are too scared to answer ? Why join in?

Lol at chipmixer spammers being in their own class? Please tell me more??
They are certainly scammer supporters and scared little bitches oh and racists etc
Most of them will run away if you request their 10 best original thought provoking posts for analysis
As for asking them to provide their largest achievement here that made a lasting difference?

Lol - someone asked the pharmacist " can you tell us your largest achievement since joining the forum around 5 years ago? "

The pharmacist said  " getting on to a highly paid sig campaign "

Haha

Most chipmixer spammers are untrustworthy scammer supporting shit posters with zero lasting achievements.
Hope I cleared that up for you.

The fact you were removed, and posters like thepharmacist remain, is .....well you work it out.


legendary
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Exactly true, there was a time when nobody took Chipmixer campaign so seriously as the days when it started, BTC was not even $1k (if I'm not wrong) and the payment was BTC0.0375 max which still is, the only difference is the price that has caught the eyes of all these members who are willing to be a part of their campaign.

Believe me, when the price of bitcoin increases by a factor of 8 or around that (and it will happen eventually), you're also going to start seeing a lot of threads complaining about what's now "small money" like Bitvest and 777coin sponsoring bigots/boogeymen/.

People tend to complain because of their inability to prove themselves (handicapped brains or minds whatever you call them) and such people love mudding over the names of popular projects just to catch some part of their fame while only trying to degrade / defame them. No wonder if BTC shows a major move, you said it right that what's being seen as very low numbers in BTC will also be addressed as defamatory campaigns providing money to their campaign members to scam / spam / . Grin
legendary
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Exactly true, there was a time when nobody took Chipmixer campaign so seriously as the days when it started, BTC was not even $1k (if I'm not wrong) and the payment was BTC0.0375 max which still is, the only difference is the price that has caught the eyes of all these members who are willing to be a part of their campaign.

Believe me, when the price of bitcoin increases by a factor of 8 or around that (and it will happen eventually), you're also going to start seeing a lot of threads complaining about what's now "small money" like Bitvest and 777coin sponsoring bigots/boogeymen/.
legendary
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Eh, i remember times when Chipmixer was just a campaign for lazy nerds which couldn't find worthy ICO bounty (some of them could awarded you with 1 btc for a month with shitty signature) . But now, after ico's death there too much drama about this signature campaign.

Exactly true, there was a time when nobody took Chipmixer campaign so seriously as the days when it started, BTC was not even $1k (if I'm not wrong) and the payment was BTC0.0375 max which still is, the only difference is the price that has caught the eyes of all these members who are willing to be a part of their campaign.

You'll have to detail who you're taking about specifically. Which member?
Who is the somebody?



I believe that if English would have been a first language of yours, you may not have questioned me this.  Grin
Don't try to pretend a fool here, you already know whom I'm speaking about.
member
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Let's take it one step at a time.

This means you've got no evidence but you're trying to throw mud over somebody's personality just because "you felt that they are doing something wrong", you felt.

I have no issues with chipmixer.  I have volunteered to wear chipmixer and all earnings are donated directly to good causes.

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No. It's just that you are in a hurry to attribute meaning that is not there.

If you volunteer to do something it doesnt essentially mean that is has yet taken place

Just so I'm clear, is English your first language? Perhaps this could explain the interaction so far?

You'll have to detail who you're taking about specifically. Which member?
Who is the somebody?

legendary
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Eh, i remember times when Chipmixer was just a campaign for lazy nerds which couldn't find worthy ICO bounty (some of them could awarded you with 1 btc for a month with shitty signature) . But now, after ico's death there too much drama about this signature campaign.

Guys, calm down, even 1200 dollars per month doesn't worth to drown your own reputation and honour (like what happened with many turkish members). There a lot now free courses of programming. Better find one which will fit you the best and then you will get much more (in time)  Smiley

legendary
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Let's take it one step at a time.

This means you've got no evidence but you're trying to throw mud over somebody's personality just because "you felt that they are doing something wrong", you felt.

I have no issues with chipmixer.  I have volunteered to wear chipmixer and all earnings are donated directly to good causes.

--snip--

legendary
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Perhaps calling out means something different to you  that is where the confusion is.  

Perhaps.

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Malboroza seems to be a prime lauda supporter and pusher of double standards.


That much is true.
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I have no issues with chipmixer.  I have volunteered to wear chipmixer and all earnings are donated to good causes and never come near me.

Earnings? Wait! What?
Volunteering for Chipmixer pays off? I've never heard about that ever?!?  Huh
How did you earn through them at first? Donation is far another subject, but how did you earn from Chipmixer? Were you a member of the campaign? Wait, your account rank isn't allowed to participate in their campaign, this means you're posting from your alt because you need to have an account with Sr. Member or above rank to be able to participate in Chipmixer campaign.

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What if a member is supporting and protecting a proven scammer?
What if members try to trust abuser whistleblowing on scammers?

I'd only ask you one thing here:
"Any firm evidence please?"
Are you butthurt because you're someone with a higher rank yet not a DT but seeing DTs supporting him due to the fact that in their views, that ^whistleblower^ is the right person to go with?

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Why did you leave chipmixer?

Do you think anybody is a fool to leave such a privileged campaign? I got removed just like some other members because I believe that DS has got enough reasons to keep / remove anyone in / from the campaign and I always respect their personality as well as their decisions.

Let's take it one step at a time.

I have not worked with chipmixer previously.
legendary
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I have no issues with chipmixer.  I have volunteered to wear chipmixer and all earnings are donated to good causes and never come near me.

Earnings? Wait! What?
Volunteering for Chipmixer pays off? I've never heard about that ever?!?  Huh
How did you earn through them at first? Donation is far another subject, but how did you earn from Chipmixer? Were you a member of the campaign? Wait, your account rank isn't allowed to participate in their campaign, this means you're posting from your alt because you need to have an account with Sr. Member or above rank to be able to participate in Chipmixer campaign.

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What if a member is supporting and protecting a proven scammer?
What if members try to trust abuser whistleblowing on scammers?

I'd only ask you one thing here:
"Any firm evidence please?"
Are you butthurt because you're someone with a higher rank yet not a DT but seeing DTs supporting him due to the fact that in their views, that ^whistleblower^ is the right person to go with?

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Why did you leave chipmixer?

Do you think anybody is a fool to leave such a privileged campaign? I got removed just like some other members because I believe that DS has got enough reasons to keep / remove anyone in / from the campaign and I always respect their personality as well as their decisions.
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That seems to support exactly what I said.

He is correctly pointing out marlboroza is a scammer supporting non achieving loser. Which he is. You left red trust for someone telling the truth about malboroza.

There is no person I am fighting. I am pushing for fair and transparent standards that ensure all members are treated equally.
The end of double standards.  

Perhaps calling out means something different to you  that is where the confusion is.  

Malboroza seems to be a prime lauda supporter and pusher of double standards.


I'm just taking your comment here as I've got some interesting questions to ask you.

What are you up to? Is it that you're not fine with the people here who are advertising Chipmixer signature? It's been 3 years (if not less) for them with these members and I've also been a member of it for around 2 years and never had such issues, nor am I so badly dissatisfied like you. And you're only pointing out Marlboroza which makes it clear that you don't have issues with ^the rest of the Chipmixer army^? Tongue

I've seen the case with Marlboroza where I think there was no foul play done from their end (I'm not supporting anyone but speaking what I understood after investigating about the deep truth to the best of my knowledge).

I don't get this Lauda part, that even if someone likes/supports any member on the forum that you don't like, what makes you feel so bad that you just write it out and call out someone for their following deeds? Also don't understand the "double standards" part, can you explain what exactly it is in your views?

I have no issues with chipmixer.  I have volunteered to wear chipmixer and all earnings are donated directly to good causes.

What if a member is supporting and protecting a proven scammer?
What if members try to trust abuse whistleblowing on scammers?

Why did you leave chipmixer?
legendary
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That seems to support exactly what I said.

He is correctly pointing out marlboroza is a scammer supporting non achieving loser. Which he is. You left red trust for someone telling the truth about malboroza.

There is no person I am fighting. I am pushing for fair and transparent standards that ensure all members are treated equally.
The end of double standards.  

Perhaps calling out means something different to you  that is where the confusion is.  

Malboroza seems to be a prime lauda supporter and pusher of double standards.


I'm just taking your comment here as I've got some interesting questions to ask you.

What are you up to? Is it that you're not fine with the people here who are advertising Chipmixer signature? It's been 3 years (if not less) for them with these members and I've also been a member of it for around 2 years and never had such issues, nor am I so badly dissatisfied like you. And you're only pointing out Marlboroza which makes it clear that you don't have issues with ^the rest of the Chipmixer army^? Tongue

I've seen the case with Marlboroza where I think there was no foul play done from their end (I'm not supporting anyone but speaking what I understood after investigating about the deep truth to the best of my knowledge).

I don't get this Lauda part, that even if someone likes/supports any member on the forum that you don't like, what makes you feel so bad that you just write it out and call out someone for their following deeds? Also don't understand the "double standards" part, can you explain what exactly it is in your views?
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Archive [1a], [1b]

I seem to recall either toaa or ch was calling malboroza out and you gave them red for swearing at malboroza.

I'll say again:

I believe you have given red to a member previously for calling malboroza out as a scammer supporting piece of shit.  

Proof, or it never happened.




Here's what I wrote:

The-One-Above-All's trust feedback wall:



...and...

cryptohunter's Trust Feedback Wall:




Here are the three links:


If you look at the second and third links (which are archives BTW) cryptohunter is attacking marlboroza and in essence I have defended marlboroza by giving cryptohunter negative feedback trust BECAUSE of that post.

Here is what @cryptohunter wrote about @marlboroza

Good members like Moronbozo who have never achieved anything or made any original thought provoking posts of any real value, yet that seek to red trust honest members that uncovered huge scams and fought many times alone against all manner of scam promoting scum like lauda and huge black woman. Red trusting them for some pathetic scare quotes bullshit. These fools are the "good " members apparently.




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I seem to recall either toaa or ch was calling malboroza out...

Do you even know who you are fighting, or why?

That seems to support exactly what I said.

He is correctly pointing out marlboroza is a scammer supporting non achieving loser. Which he is. You left red trust for someone telling the truth about malboroza.

There is no person I am fighting. I am pushing for fair and transparent standards that ensure all members are treated equally.
The end of double standards.  

Perhaps calling out means something different to you  that is where the confusion is.  

Malboroza seems to be a prime lauda supporter and pusher of double standards.
legendary
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Archive [1a], [1b]

I seem to recall either toaa or ch was calling malboroza out and you gave them red for swearing at malboroza.

I'll say again:

I believe you have given red to a member previously for calling malboroza out as a scammer supporting piece of shit. 

Proof, or it never happened.




Here's what I wrote:

The-One-Above-All's trust feedback wall:



...and...

cryptohunter's Trust Feedback Wall:




Here are the three links:


If you look at the second and third links (which are archives BTW) cryptohunter is attacking marlboroza and in essence I have defended marlboroza by giving cryptohunter negative feedback trust BECAUSE of that post.

Here is what @cryptohunter wrote about @marlboroza

Good members like Moronbozo who have never achieved anything or made any original thought provoking posts of any real value, yet that seek to red trust honest members that uncovered huge scams and fought many times alone against all manner of scam promoting scum like lauda and huge black woman. Red trusting them for some pathetic scare quotes bullshit. These fools are the "good " members apparently.




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I seem to recall either toaa or ch was calling malboroza out...

Do you even know who you are fighting, or why?
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I believe you have given red to a member previously for calling malboroza out as a scammer supporting piece of shit.  

Proof, or it never happened.

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It seems chipmixer is paying this member to protect and support scamming by trying to label whistleblowers and trolls

chipmixer certainly has inadvertently brought a motley crew together.

I seem to recall either toaa or ch was calling malboroza out and you gave them red for swearing at malboroza.
If you say it was for something else i will not dispute this now. When I observed it and read the reference  that was the conclusion i had drawn. The reference does include some other scammer sympathizers getting whipped on the same post so it may have been for criticizing one of those.  Marlboroza appeared to be the primary recipient of the lashing.


Eventually it will become evident that chipmixer inadvertently is motivating and sponsoring some serious scammers and is the core driving force behind a lot of the double standards and 2 tier system that these below average posters need to leverage so they may take these top paying sig spots.

Their "trustworthyness" is gamed and manipulated between them hence why they circle the wagons when members uncover irrefutable scamming by one of the scam gang. They know their individual safety is dependent upon each.

Darkstar must by now be fully aware of their actions. He is reluctant to comment or shrinks away from public debate over his employees conduct. This reflects very poorly upon him. If he thought they were entirely innocent then why not demonstrate this via public debate and analysis.
legendary
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I believe you have given red to a member previously for calling malboroza out as a scammer supporting piece of shit.  

Proof, or it never happened.

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It seems chipmixer is paying this member to protect and support scamming by trying to label whistleblowers and trolls

chipmixer certainly has inadvertently brought a motley crew together.
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