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Topic: Chipmixer sponsor dangerous untrustworthy members and Racists and unfair treat? - page 3. (Read 1452 times)

legendary
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It's like saying all Bitcoiner are criminal because 1.1% of total cryptocurrency transaction is associated with criminal activity[1]

Besides, you claim that "sponsoring many of the forums dangerous members", but i have yet to see research which analyze all participant whether they're "dangerous" or not.
Prove your statement by analyzing all ChipMixer participant, you can start by looking at list of ChipMixer participant[2]

Source :
1. https://blog.chainalysis.com/reports/cryptocurrency-crime-2020-report
2. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17P52DifaD7YfvzLkX3wrxGVpKcaPHY4y57ZpI-FK754/edit?usp=sharing
legendary
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Simple solution: Do not employ anyone from the Turkish section until they as a group mature up.
Yeah, it's ironic that they cry "racism!", which implies that they don't want to be judged as a group, but as individuals, and yet they're probably the most nationalistic group on the forum and the one through which runs a particularly nasty attitude--collectively.  It could be that it's just the most vocal of the bunch that's giving them all a bad name, but I'm not hearing a lot of dissent in their ranks.

Turkey isn't a race, either. 

I wouldn't say Chipmixer or any other campaign shouldn't accept anyone from the Turkish section.  They should be judged by the same standards as anyone else.  But if I'm not mistaken most campaigns still only pay for posts in English, and some of the writing I've seen by the loudest of the Turkish posse is just atrocious.  It's no wonder why they're not getting into the Chipmixer campaign, though I don't know about any of the others.
jr. member
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Simple solution: Do not employ anyone from the Turkish section until they as a group mature up. Problem solved. IIRC this is the most problematic section I have dealt with in all my history here (and Asian shitposters I have dealt with in countless number - which says a lot).
Now that does sound racist. I don't think you should be trying to influence them to endure your double standards and scamming by threatening to crush their chances to earn from the forum like you and your toadies.
Nope. You can scream and shout racism, but that will lead you to nowhere. They have created a problem themselves, and I am offering a simple solution to it. That is it.  Smiley

Is it inspired by the final solution?
No, they have made it clear they will not put up with your gaming the system for your own personal gain. You are suggesting they do as you think they should, else you will try to extort or blackmail them by cutting rev streams based on race that will have negative impact on their entire board.

I think any campaign manager operating according to your suggestion will be swiftly removed or their project will be open to serious and sustained crticism.

Chipmixer clearly does sponsor a colluding group that cycle merits and self install themselves on DT. Sadly many are scammer supporters or shit posters. I'm not sure there is a clear racist theme but rather any group or individual that is not supporting the colluding group will be denied.

Darkstar is certainly not selecting the most valuable posters and there are clearly some very untrustworthy members being sponsored and their trust abuse and scammer supporting does place the entire board at greater risk.

Chipmixer will certainly be negatively impacted by this off things do not change.

Darkstar should stop relying on the gamed and worthless self provided metrics that merit sources and DT slather themselves up with. Do his own deep investigations.

He should also consider rotating positions so every good poster that is trustworthy get a taste.



legendary
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Simple solution: Do not employ anyone from the Turkish section until they as a group mature up. Problem solved. IIRC this is the most problematic section I have dealt with in all my history here (and Asian shitposters I have dealt with in countless number - which says a lot).
Now that does sound racist. I don't think you should be trying to influence them to endure your double standards and scamming by threatening to crush their chances to earn from the forum like you and your toadies.
Nope. You can scream and shout racism, but that will lead you to nowhere. They have created a problem themselves, and I am offering a simple solution to it. That is it.  Smiley
jr. member
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Simple solution: Do not employ anyone from the Turkish section until they as a group mature up. Problem solved. IIRC this is the most problematic section I have dealt with in all my history here (and Asian shitposters I have dealt with in countless number - which says a lot).

Now that does sound racist. I don't think you should be trying to influence them to endure your double standards and scamming by threatening to crush their chances to earn from the forum like you and your toadies.

If they are presenting you with a problem they likely must have more courage and moral fiber than most other members. The forum needs strong opposition to scammers and extortionists like you.
legendary
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Terminated.
Simple solution: Do not employ anyone from the Turkish section until they as a group mature up. Problem solved. IIRC this is the most problematic section I have dealt with in all my history here (and Asian shitposters I have dealt with in countless number - which says a lot).
legendary
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I had to un-ignore OP...
Marlboroza also including scammer and trust abusers on his trust list.
Nonsense. Dude, you sound like this:

https://youtu.be/cmlq40G9xK8?t=20

And Vispilio with his rants sound like this:

https://youtu.be/cmlq40G9xK8?t=99
legendary
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@OP, still are you seeing red trust on marlboroza's profile?

If I go as dt I see the -1 : https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/marlboroza-787736
If I go by my normal settings, I don't see the -1 because Vispilio is excluded, although not directly (he's not in my distrust list).

So OP may indeed see the -1.

When Coolcryptovator excluded Vispilio, the orange "-1" on marlboroza's profile was briefly gone, but then imhoneer included peloso who includes Vispilio so he's back in DT and the
"-1" is showing again (with DT settings).
legendary
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@OP, still are you seeing red trust on marlboroza's profile?

If I go as dt I see the -1 : https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/marlboroza-787736
If I go by my normal settings, I don't see the -1 because Vispilio is excluded, although not directly (he's not in my distrust list).

So OP may indeed see the -1.
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However, excluded (~Vispilio). Currently DT2 status "Vispilio (-1)", so I don't think counter feedback is necessary.

@OP, still are you seeing red trust on marlboroza's profile?
It is like on-off button. I had DT -ve then I didn't then I have it again.

It say marboroza -1 and say red tag? Nobody see this one?

Marlboroza also including scammer and trust abusers on his trust list.
Post quality is okay, but I will say negative as he supporting scamming mate lauda tman and other undesirable  membersand try to prevent fair and equality for all members. Chipmixer owner should investigate deep for his contamination.

Chilmixer should make a strong effort to not be a sponsor of any member that is dangerous by destroying the trust system,  not have any scamming or cheating for money  and make excellent value posts.
Pick the truly best members or if you pick dangerous cheats and poor poster you can explain why you are sponsoring damage to bitcointalk

Dark star make hoop for some poster  but let small value poster like pharmacist and cheater spammers racist troll, and scammer supporter like him be on chipmixer.  Oh really mate. Say not racist read HugeBlackWoman account posts, this proven as the pharmacist  alt account.

legendary
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this a shameless and nasty lie, disproven time and again on many threads.

Oh don't be shy now.

And I hereby inform the respectable BTT community that I am opening a flag against ~Timelord2067 and will continue to tag users who like to persecute people based on their nationality or anthropological backgrounds...

EDIT based on some feedback regarding flags: If historical events are any guide, I'm reasonably convinced that there is a great correlation between exhibiting irrational hate & persecution towards certain groups and committing financial crimes against them, so I believe the flag against this deeply unstable stalker called Timelord2067 is appropriate from a financial perspective as well.



~suchmoon

Couldn't agree more. Feel free to exclude suchmoon for any reason you see fit.

is the only one who has to bring "racism" bullshit every time into the debate in a childish pathetic attempt to discredit dissenting opinions on this forum.

Yeah... no. The title of this thread is "Chipmixer sponsor dangerous untrustworthy members and Racists and unfair treat?" so I'm not the one who's bringing it up.

In a real respectable business organization, a manipulative petty monster like her wouldn't be even asked to wait as a receptionist,

and yet here she is hailed as the sMerit and DT queen and the admin watches her inner circle take over forum dynamics for years in total silence.

I thought I was a nanny. You're getting lost in your misogynist tripe.
legendary
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However, excluded (~Vispilio). Currently DT2 status "Vispilio (-1)", so I don't think counter feedback is necessary.

@OP, still are you seeing red trust on marlboroza's profile?
It is like on-off button. I had DT -ve then I didn't then I have it again.
member
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We can get red tag but this why my shield is here. A shield for a free speech is honorable as my words are true.

Did you look into the mirror when you said this?
Did you get a good laugh?  Grin

I would care because I don't think it help this forum is chipmixer sponsor dangerous and cheating members  
I can not try to get on chipmixer personally.
Make it fair and honest or you can admit you are unfair cheating and racist and want to sponsor members who can trust abuse and cause the forum dangerous high risk.

You have to make your mind. You don't seem convinced your problem is about Chipmixer or ... one person.
The Chipmixer members I discuss with (on this forum) on a daily basis are way more than "OK".
And however you try to put some personal grudge under the blanket of "fight for the truth", it's just plain pathetic.


Your opinion is irrelevant I will introduce evidence that show you are talk rubbish and have a very low standards then you say they are more than okay, tell me which member more than okay I will then need to visit your sponsor if you say scammers and trust abuser is more than okay. Let me see these more that okay  very trustworthy best posting members
jr. member
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This is a sitting duck if you put in the research. You could easily demonstrate that chipmixer is certainly sponsoring a bunch of dangerous trust abusers and scammer suporters.

Check out this thread a lot of the homework is done. The links and post histories of many chipmixer spammers are very unsavory and corrupt. Full of greed,  scammer supporting and trust abuse.  

Only a constantly and continued effort will bring change.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/poll-the-official-dirty-turds-poll-which-dt-needs-flushing-first-5170789

then join the guild in meta. Objective transparent standards don't permit nepotism or racism. Once those are installed then you don't need to fight this bias you have noted may exist.

Come and join The objective standards guild. Only if you wish for fair and equal treatment of all members.
legendary
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Why only some members can join and have red tag themselves?

A red tag from a vindictive troll like Vispilio who thinks it's appropriate to use red trust and flags for "racism"? It means nothing. You should be more concerned why your compatriots are voting such users into DT1.

this a shameless and nasty lie, disproven time and again on many threads.

~suchmoon is the only one who has to bring "racism" bullshit every time into the debate in a childish pathetic attempt to discredit dissenting opinions on this forum.

In a real respectable business organization, a manipulative petty monster like her wouldn't be even asked to wait as a receptionist,

and yet here she is hailed as the sMerit and DT queen and the admin watches her inner circle take over forum dynamics for years in total silence.

Hence the forum has to endure a totally broken trust system run by nepotist criminals, until all the respectable campaigns wake up and completely give up on sponsoring these self-indulgent abusers who make their living milking BTT like an ATM for themselves and their many alt / sock puppet accounts ...

legendary
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We can get red tag but this why my shield is here. A shield for a free speech is honorable as my words are true.

Did you look into the mirror when you said this?
Did you get a good laugh?  Grin

I would care because I don't think it help this forum is chipmixer sponsor dangerous and cheating members  
I can not try to get on chipmixer personally.
Make it fair and honest or you can admit you are unfair cheating and racist and want to sponsor members who can trust abuse and cause the forum dangerous high risk.

You have to make your mind. You don't seem convinced your problem is about Chipmixer or ... one person.
The Chipmixer members I discuss with (on this forum) on a daily basis are way more than "OK".
And however you try to put some personal grudge under the blanket of "fight for the truth", it's just plain pathetic.
member
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I think OP missed to read updated rules about negative feedback and flags. Here is your answer,

8. Receiving a valid contract violation flag, a valid "high risk" flag or having more negative trust feedback from DT1 and DT2 than positive trust feedback may cause you to be removed, with or without payment.
So it's pretty clear if your positive trust is greater than negative trust then most likely participants will not remove. Have you noticed someone like that? Please mention it if we are missing something.

On the other hand, you may write directly to owner or manager via PM if you found something wrong. Since marlboroza's positive feedback greater than negative trust so I don't think he will be removed. And there is question "how valid this negative trust"?

I think chipmixer owner should come .I will ask him why such a large proportion of chipmixer advertisers are sponsored that also trust abuse other members and why most are from  same pool of people that share merit and trust inclusions.
I will ask him to see the highest quality posters and most trustworthy members then show me.
I will ask him to see if he see the merit sharing, group inclusions and trust abuse and historical untrustworthy actions.  
The more red than green is just another cheat is not advisable. Red trust was for scam before flag. You can not have one scam and be one the most trustworthy one for chip mixer on forum.  If it not about scam at all then who can give a fuck it is invented and not about trustworthyness.
Chipmixer owner need to reflect and make sensible fair rule to protect chipmixer from being racist. Nepotism and group of abusers that are not superior posters.
10 red tags for say the truth they don't want and 1 red tag for steal or scam is not a basis for surface judgement.
Chipmixer is close group that control and bias the other members. If you not a mate you can not have a fair chance.
I can show untrustworthy or trust abuse and low quality  post in many of chipmixer cheaters.

Suchmoon chipmixer talk about exemplary members but votes on DT1 those trust abusers and scammers. I have seen the truth and history of them. Suchmoon support the most dangerous and worst cheaters here.
Chipmixer will corrupt the hearts of many like suchmoon. Bring your members chipmixer and suchnoon he votes for I can show chipmixer owner the truth of it.
legendary
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Why only some members can join and have red tag themselves?

A red tag from a vindictive troll like Vispilio who thinks it's appropriate to use red trust and flags for "racism"? It means nothing. You should be more concerned why your compatriots are voting such users into DT1.
legendary
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I think OP missed to read updated rules about negative feedback and flags. Here is your answer,

8. Receiving a valid contract violation flag, a valid "high risk" flag or having more negative trust feedback from DT1 and DT2 than positive trust feedback may cause you to be removed, with or without payment.
So it's pretty clear if your positive trust is greater than negative trust then most likely participants will not remove. Have you noticed someone like that? Please mention it if we are missing something.

On the other hand, you may write directly to owner or manager via PM if you found something wrong. Since marlboroza's positive feedback greater than negative trust so I don't think he will be removed. And there is question "how valid this negative trust"?

However, excluded (~Vispilio). Currently DT2 status "Vispilio (-1)", so I don't think counter feedback is necessary.

@OP, still are you seeing red trust on marlboroza's profile?
member
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and not giving fair opportunity.

They don't have to. It's their money, their rules, their ways of following them. You just cannot argue with that.
If you comply and get lucky, perfect. If not, move on. That's what I've done. And many others too. There are more campaigns, there are more opportunities, and it's not all about money.. or should not be.

Now... if Chipmixer would also pay 25-50$ per week, would you care?  Roll Eyes

Chipmixer don't have to be fair. They can be nepotism and racist and cheats and liars. It is true they can but then I can and others can notice this and point it out. We can get red tag but this why my shield is here. A shield for a free speech is honorable as my words are true.

I would care because I don't think it help this forum is chipmixer sponsor dangerous and cheating members  
I can not try to get on chipmixer personally.
Make it fair and honest or you can admit you are unfair cheating and racist and want to sponsor members who can trust abuse and cause the forum dangerous high risk.
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