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member
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June 15, 2018, 07:21:09 AM
My derp was around 001
Now it's 0001
My placement went from the fifties deferred payment to the six hundreds?
Huh?
jr. member
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June 15, 2018, 06:06:03 AM
Congrats. It's raining blocks.
hero member
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Retired IRCX God
June 15, 2018, 04:40:01 AM
What happens during an orphan block? Do coins appear in our wallets (as unmatured) then get taken away when its officially orphaned?
That mostly depends on the network, the wallet you use, and the peers you're connected to....

If your node saw both blocks (this usually doesn't get visually represented in most GUIs), then box that normally shows a pie chart (◔,◕, etc.) and/or ✓ will likely show an ✖ and say "Conflicted" with the value being inside [] brackets.
It's pretty rare for a "average user" GUI wallet to show things like that.
For most, especially since it's a coinbase tx from a non-local node, would never see it because the block competed against was already accepted as valid (it might not seem like it, but 0.7 seconds can be like an eternity in network time).
wh0
newbie
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June 15, 2018, 03:58:13 AM
 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
jr. member
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June 15, 2018, 03:21:21 AM
Another block yay! Its a block party!!!
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legendary
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Ruu \o/
June 14, 2018, 10:13:31 PM
What happens during an orphan block? Do coins appear in our wallets (as unmatured) then get taken away when its officially orphaned?
Only if you see that block first before the other one that orphans it. In this situation you wouldn't have seen anything.
-ck
legendary
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Ruu \o/
June 14, 2018, 10:12:53 PM
Wallet fully synced and yet no TX for latest payout? strange.

"17zyuMZzuD4cd4WCP24WcnnMcBkYiRc3es": 0.01627649

It's there with 9 confirmations, like all the rest of the rewards:
https://btc.com/17zyuMZzuD4cd4WCP24WcnnMcBkYiRc3es

Hope your wallet isn't bogus.
jr. member
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June 14, 2018, 10:12:09 PM
Watching the chain to see if we win a double race... likely the only adrenaline-inducing thing left in mining.  Undecided
Watching the pool you mine in lose that race... likely the worst feeling left in mining.  Cry
Alas it was a foregone conclusion. It wasn't much of an orphan race at all, so even the fast block change code in the pool couldn't have prevented us losing that one.

For people wondering what he's talking about, we had a block orphaned. What happened was the block had already been solved by another pool, but a miner submitted a stale share 700ms later that was also a block solve. There was almost no chance it was going to be successful, but the pool will try to use it as a block solve anyway, forcing bitcoind to accept the block, in the unlikely event it wins the orphan race (or solves two blocks back to back). Realistically the pool can just ignore it since it was stale but we'll try anything to get a block.

Here are the pool logs where you can see it says it's submitting a stale share block solve:
Code:
[2018-06-14 18:11:25.412] Block hash changed to 00000000000000000037e634734805d4a48f7d50125ecc55a2f137e2722a32f3
[2018-06-14 18:11:26.100] Possible stale share block solve diff 10130992321539.841797 !
[2018-06-14 18:11:26.100] Submitting block data!
[2018-06-14 18:11:26.107] SUBMIT BLOCK RETURNED: inconclusive
[2018-06-14 18:11:26.171] Hash for block height 527471 confirms block was ACCEPTED
[2018-06-14 18:11:26.176] Solved block 527471 by 36JMs8rogpizjkkp6eeKMmm3SLbSNo5H9V.0
[2018-06-14 18:11:26.176] User 36JMs8rogpizjkkp6eeKMmm3SLbSNo5H9V:{"hashrate1m": "142P", "hashrate5m": "142P", "hashrate1hr": "136P", "hashrate1d": "83.7P", "hashrate7d": "56.6P"}
[2018-06-14 18:11:26.176] Worker 36JMs8rogpizjkkp6eeKMmm3SLbSNo5H9V.0:{"hashrate1m": "107P", "hashrate5m": "107P", "hashrate1hr": "102P", "hashrate1d": "73.4P", "hashrate7d": "54.6P"}
[2018-06-14 18:11:26.272] Block hash changed to 0000000000000000001bc87b3d85516a0b00bf873a43dbef986125c269c210d8
[2018-06-14 18:32:31.978] Hash for block height 527471 confirms block was ORPHANED
At the end the pool sees that it lost the orphan race and moves to the new block. Unfortunate, but one of the realities of mining. The only fortunate part is the pool code already takes into account what should happen in the case of an orphan, to prevent the interleaved payouts getting out of sync. It will also NOT artificially reset the diff back to 0% since we didn't win a block.

You can see the full details of what would have been a block in this sadly named block file:
http://ckpool.org/blocks/527471.orphaned



What happens during an orphan block? Do coins appear in our wallets (as unmatured) then get taken away when its officially orphaned?
jr. member
Activity: 284
Merit: 3
June 14, 2018, 10:10:26 PM
Wallet fully synced and yet no TX for latest payout? strange.

"17zyuMZzuD4cd4WCP24WcnnMcBkYiRc3es": 0.01627649

I got my payout
sr. member
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Walter Russell's Cosmogony is RIGHT!
June 14, 2018, 10:07:22 PM
got tx
jr. member
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http://ckpool.org
June 14, 2018, 09:54:17 PM
"solvedby": "1J17t8CjjVwegqn6Y4JC7osA8fNsuz8z5D",
 "date": "[2018-06-15 02:07:52.247]",
 "hash": "0000000000000000001543f546e5a30e8660394863199cb285342f58cade373e",
 "shares": 2696179102157,
 "diff": 54.6
jr. member
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http://ckpool.org
June 14, 2018, 09:52:30 PM
Booya! BLOCK PARTY!!!
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legendary
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Ruu \o/
June 14, 2018, 09:45:41 PM
Would have been a double block day  if not for the orphan!
Still might be.
jr. member
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June 14, 2018, 09:41:30 PM
Would have been a double block day  if not for the orphan!
jr. member
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June 14, 2018, 09:33:05 PM
Party!
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legendary
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Ruu \o/
June 14, 2018, 09:22:40 PM
Making up for the orphan at 54.6% diff Smiley

This time it wasn't Halong! One of our regular miners (but with a Dragonmint T1 nonetheless).

Code:
[2018-06-15 02:07:52.153] Possible block solve diff 13236048667151.658203 !
[2018-06-15 02:07:52.242] BLOCK ACCEPTED!
[2018-06-15 02:07:52.251] Solved block 527499 by 1J17t8CjjVwegqn6Y4JC7osA8fNsuz8z5D.DMT11
[2018-06-15 02:07:52.251] User 1J17t8CjjVwegqn6Y4JC7osA8fNsuz8z5D:{"hashrate1m": "129T", "hashrate5m": "128T", "hashrate1hr": "124T", "hashrate1d": "118T", "hashrate7d": "105T"}
[2018-06-15 02:07:52.251] Worker 1J17t8CjjVwegqn6Y4JC7osA8fNsuz8z5D.DMT11:{"hashrate1m": "15.4T", "hashrate5m": "13.7T", "hashrate1hr": "12.9T", "hashrate1d": "9.85T", "hashrate7d": "8.94T"}
[2018-06-15 02:17:24.830] Hash for block height 527499 confirms block was CONFIRMED

https://btc.com/0000000000000000001543f546e5a30e8660394863199cb285342f58cade373e

Full payout details:
http://ckpool.org/blocks/527499.confirmed
wh0
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June 14, 2018, 08:23:22 PM
Our difficulty % was around 125%
Code:
 "solvedby": "36JMs8rogpizjkkp6eeKMmm3SLbSNo5H9V",
 "date": "[2018-06-13 13:28:53.840]",
 "hash": "00000000000000000031552854fde522e73177585ecd463dea64fb503c4e0083",
 "shares": 6085301242740,
 "diff": 123.2

I was wondering where is this 'solvedby' URL?
Thanks!

http://ckpool.org/blocks/

Thanks! Didn't noticed the above info was at the bottom of the blocks.  Roll Eyes
wh0
newbie
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June 14, 2018, 07:00:18 PM
BLOCK! (527356)
13hr 20mins!  Shocked


well that was hours ago   but it was a "lucky" block  well under 100%

Ops!  Tongue
Forgotten to take into account the timezone. Was too excited!  Smiley

Timestamps in the /blocks URL are UTC-5?
-ck
legendary
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Ruu \o/
June 14, 2018, 06:42:41 PM
Our difficulty % was around 125%
Code:
 "solvedby": "36JMs8rogpizjkkp6eeKMmm3SLbSNo5H9V",
 "date": "[2018-06-13 13:28:53.840]",
 "hash": "00000000000000000031552854fde522e73177585ecd463dea64fb503c4e0083",
 "shares": 6085301242740,
 "diff": 123.2

I was wondering where is this 'solvedby' URL?
Thanks!

http://ckpool.org/blocks/
member
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Merit: 12
June 14, 2018, 06:42:15 PM
Our difficulty % was around 125%
Code:
 "solvedby": "36JMs8rogpizjkkp6eeKMmm3SLbSNo5H9V",
 "date": "[2018-06-13 13:28:53.840]",
 "hash": "00000000000000000031552854fde522e73177585ecd463dea64fb503c4e0083",
 "shares": 6085301242740,
 "diff": 123.2

I was wondering where is this 'solvedby' URL?
Thanks!

Are you looking for the URL to actually see the block info ?  Here:  https://btc.com/stats/pool/CKPool
Height:  527,282
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