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Topic: Cleanup on isle 234 - Many (assumed) hacked accounts for sale - page 2. (Read 550 times)

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Quote from: theymos
You are only allowed to sell accounts/invites that you legally obtained yourself or through legitimate trades. If you did anything illegal in order to obtain an item, then you can't trade it on bitcointalk.org. Anyone found breaking this rule will be banned.

I know it is immoral, but is selling your own verified account or having the approval of the original owner considered legitimate.
If yes, then how to prove those accounts were illegaly obtained as sellers will simply deny the accusation.
The rules do not say you need to prove how they are obtained legally, they say you only need to give an explanation.

None of the threads I listed above have given any kind of explanation regarding how they were obtained.

The rule I cited is sellers are *assumed* to be selling cracked/hacked accounts if the accounts require KYC and no explanation is given. 
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Quote from: theymos
You are only allowed to sell accounts/invites that you legally obtained yourself or through legitimate trades. If you did anything illegal in order to obtain an item, then you can't trade it on bitcointalk.org. Anyone found breaking this rule will be banned.

I know it is immoral, but is selling your own verified account or having the approval of the original owner considered legitimate.
If yes, then how to prove those accounts were illegaly obtained as sellers will simply deny the accusation.
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I recently was reviewing the rules of Invites & Accounts, and I saw this rule:

Quote from: theymos, Re: Hacked invites/accounts are not allowed
Accounts on sites that require KYC such as bank accounts, PayPal, etc. are assumed to be hacked unless you explain why they're not hacked.

I looked on the first three pages of Invites & Accounts and I found a lot of threads that clearly meet this criteria. I am not sure if so few people frequent this sub that no one bothers reporting these kinds of threads, or if this rule is ignored by moderators. Some examples of threads that appear to be breaking the above rule, based on my knowledge of various services, and is limited to threads I was willing to click on based on the title indicating they might be breaking the rule:

Want to sell Wirex verifed accounts - they are described as "verified" (implied as having gone through KYC), and there are many old "bumps" needing deletion, including multiple within a 24 hour period

Selling Coinbase Coingate Cryptopay and many other verifed accounts - coinbase requires KYC and the description "verified" implies KYC was completed

Us Vba | Usa Virtual Bank account | USA Paypal Accounts Full Verified( No Hold ) - PayPal requires KYC to be "verified". I am not familiar with how a VCC or VBA works, but I believe KYC is probably required to get these. There are many old "bumps" needing deletion in this thread

No 21 Days Hold Aged-Verified PayPal Accounts - China, Australia, USA, CANADA - the topic says the accounts are KYC verified

SELL)Verified Google Cloud Acc - the topic says the accounts are KYC verified with "ID documents"

Escrow Available - Full verified personal PayPal - this is described as "verified" which implies KYC was done. The topic says the seller will "make" a new account, which may be an "explanation" but if these are not hacked, it looks a lot like identity theft, and I don't think it is good for identity theives to be transacting here

[WTS] Bitstamp/Huobi verified accounts - described as "verified" implies KYC completed, and these businesses require KYC

☆☆☆ USA / UK : BANK ACCOUNT'S ☆☆☆ [USE IN STRIPE,PAYPAL,VENMO,ETC] [🔥SALE🔥]
 - KYC is required to open a bank account in the US and UK

selling verified bet365 and skrill/neteller from UK,irl - the "verified" description implies KYC. I have not used skrill or neteller, and do not know for sure if KYC is required to use these services

selling neteller, coinbase and movo account from UK - coinbase requires KYC

PayPal stealth account USA - PayPal requires KYC, and card information is being sold

Stealth Poloniex account Verification status: Verified - Poloniex requires KYC, and "verified" description implies KYC

Selling verifed BitPanda accounts - I do not know what BitPanda is, but the "verified" description implies KYC

★ 100% SSN Verif. Paypal accs with transactions and access to Bank acc + docs! ★ - "SSN verified" means KYC was done

{WTS}USA Debit Cards with Bank Accounts - this looks like either hacked accounts or identity theft. KYC is required to get a debit card


Can a moderator look at the above threads,  ban these users, and lock these threads if they are found to be breaking the rules? The main part of the rule is:
Quote from: theymos
You are only allowed to sell accounts/invites that you legally obtained yourself or through legitimate trades. If you did anything illegal in order to obtain an item, then you can't trade it on bitcointalk.org. Anyone found breaking this rule will be banned.

I do not frequent this sub very frequently, but did so because of a complaint about the Digital Good sub I was reading.



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