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Quote from: jonsi on June 24, 2014, 01:09:53 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbb2LQPdFTo
http://blog.laptopmag.com/galaxy-s5-clone
http://grudgets.com/cheapest-samsung-galaxy-s5-clones-reviewed/

ok there is such a thing. This is not one of them obviously. You have not uncovered a scam attempt in any way shape or form although I can see several people are going to put quite a bit of effort to make it out to look like I am hiding something, which I am not.

Phone is still for sale, if seriously interested PM me.

EDIT: WARNING: THAT LAST LINK JONSI JUST POSTED IS A MALICIOUS SITE, BEWARE OF THAT LINK! It attempted ot download an .exe file and my security software said the IP address it was comign from would be blocked. Dude dont post spammy site links!

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbb2LQPdFTo
http://blog.laptopmag.com/galaxy-s5-clone
http://grudgets.com/cheapest-samsung-galaxy-s5-clones-reviewed/

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Quote from: st4nl3y on June 24, 2014, 12:31:22 PM

point is, you won't be able to sell it as brand new because it looks like the seal might have been tampered with and did you know you can buy these seal stickers easily? i am not saying yours is but there is quite a lot of fakes going about. it should have another seal with barcodes and imei number, can you provide hd photo of that?

Yes I will later today. I will repeat, NEITHER OF THE SEALS ARE BROKEN, one is covered, so my guess is the one covered up is in another language.

And no the phone has never been used at all, so it is brand new.

I've never seen fakes of the S5, only Note 3 clones.

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point is, you won't be able to sell it as brand new because it looks like the seal might have been tampered with and did you know you can buy these seal stickers easily? i am not saying yours is but there is quite a lot of fakes going about. it should have another seal with barcodes and imei number, can you provide hd photo of that?

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After doing some research on broken seals on new samsung devices (this one isn't broken but I see some people have bought samsungs with broken seals and another one on top), I found this:

"The item sold is new, all Samsung items are inspected by Samsung when they arrive in the UK, this requires the original seal to be broken, Samsung replace the seal with an official Samsung seal to re-assure customers that the items are brand new"

So my best guess is that since this is an internationally activated phone, the first seal is in another language and was covered up by samsung. And it sounds like anyone who has seen a broken seal on a "new" phone probably had their phone randomly selected for quality check after an overseas shipment.

To me I cannot believe a company that makes such high end products would use this method, but as far as I can tell that is whats going on here.

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Quote from: jonsi on June 24, 2014, 11:12:46 AM

Quote from: jcoin200 on June 24, 2014, 08:37:51 AM

Quote from: st4nl3y on June 24, 2014, 08:08:23 AM

yeah, definitely fake samsung seal sticker

EDIT: but that doesn't say it's fake or there is a potato inside, maybe OP might have used the phone to test for few days but wants to sell it as brand new

Absolutely not, I have not opened or used this at all, nor did I place that sticker there.

This is exactly how I received it, and its never been opened. The only thing i can think of is since this is an internationally unlocked phone, that the underseal is in another language. I can peel the top one off to check if anyone is legitimately interested.

And the underseal is not broken, I can also post a close up of the other end where the IMEI stickers are.

It is quite possible you are right about this. I just noticed the seal and it didn't feelt right. You can check your phone by imei here: http://www.imei.info/news/2013-09/54437-samsung-warranty-check/.

Thanks for that, I never knew they offered that. I will post a ss of the warantee & imei check which should come back as valid as this has never been used, or registered through samsung. I know samsung devices all have a unique mfg date as well which can be used to verify warantee info also.

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Quote from: jcoin200 on June 24, 2014, 08:37:51 AM

Quote from: st4nl3y on June 24, 2014, 08:08:23 AM

yeah, definitely fake samsung seal sticker

EDIT: but that doesn't say it's fake or there is a potato inside, maybe OP might have used the phone to test for few days but wants to sell it as brand new

Absolutely not, I have not opened or used this at all, nor did I place that sticker there.

This is exactly how I received it, and its never been opened. The only thing i can think of is since this is an internationally unlocked phone, that the underseal is in another language. I can peel the top one off to check if anyone is legitimately interested.

And the underseal is not broken, I can also post a close up of the other end where the IMEI stickers are.

It is quite possible you are right about this. I just noticed the seal and it didn't feelt right. You can check your phone by imei here: http://www.imei.info/news/2013-09/54437-samsung-warranty-check/.

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Quote from: st4nl3y on June 24, 2014, 08:08:23 AM

yeah, definitely fake samsung seal sticker

EDIT: but that doesn't say it's fake or there is a potato inside, maybe OP might have used the phone to test for few days but wants to sell it as brand new

Absolutely not, I have not opened or used this at all, nor did I place that sticker there.

This is exactly how I received it, and its never been opened. The only thing i can think of is since this is an internationally unlocked phone, that the underseal is in another language. I can peel the top one off to check if anyone is legitimately interested.

And the underseal is not broken, I can also post a close up of the other end where the IMEI stickers are.

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yeah, definitely fake samsung seal sticker

EDIT: but that doesn't say it's fake or there is a potato inside, maybe OP might have used the phone to test for few days but wants to sell it as brand new

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Please understand I don't imply you are trying to scam anyone, not by far. I'm just stating facts, and the fact is that it realy is suspicious that is a fake seal on top of the original one. It is also a fact that it is fake because I know how an original seal looks like, it doesn't have those pixels on the samsung sign and it's glued on the package on all of it's surface and yours doesn't respect any of this, plus the fact that you can clearly see that there is another seal underneath it. It stated clear that you shouldn't accept the product if the seal was tempered with but you did it. Is it because you didn't noticed? But now that you know don't you want to find out if you have been scamed?
If you search on google something like "received samsung with broken seal" or anything similar you will find thousands of cases that users have received bad products, refurbished ones and in some cases nothing at all purchased from legitimate website. You should never be 100% confident of anything, especially when there are signs that may imply otherwise.

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Will there be an invoice included? Like the original invoice, because I read the seal and was wondering what happens if the phone is messed up after buying (not saying your phone is faulty beforehand)

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Quote from: jonsi on June 24, 2014, 06:48:43 AM

And another thing, you should have examined the content in the presence of the delivering agent and by your saying you didn't so maybe it's time to do it at least now. I just hope you don't get un unpleasent surprise.

I bought this from a legitimate website, not of Craig's list or anything. I'm 100% confident that I won't find any surprises inside and really even if i open it to check inside it will lower resale in my opinion. If someone wants to purchase this and requests that I check it out or is ok with me doing so before shipment I would.

And to answer your question I have no clue why there are two seals. On the other end there are the imei stickers, and tgere is also another seal underneath of that one, its looks to be just a thin tamper proof material that would easily rip if it was opened. And come on dude I'm not "jumpy" but when you post publicly calling me"suspicious" then I take great offense to that. Look at my trust, obviously I'm not scamming anyone.again you are calling it a counterfeit seal as if you are sure of that. And you didn't ask a question for me to answer, you simply asserted that i was suspicious. I really hope you would realize i would not post a closer up picture if i thought something was up with the seal. I'll show a close up of the other end to show the tamper proof material under the imei sticker.

The only reason I'm selling is that I've got moving expenses, so I'm just keeping my s3 for the time being.

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And another thing, you should have examined the content in the presence of the delivering agent and by your saying you didn't so maybe it's time to do it at least now. I just hope you don't get un unpleasent surprise.

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jcoin200, to respond to your PM: No, I don't have any sort of problem with you selling your phone in here. I am interested in buying a phone, it's not an emergency but if I find one at the right price I'll take it. It's my right to ask questions about products in the market section. I don't understand what are you angry about, there is no use to that. I did'n call you a scamer or anything, I just stated that there is another seal on top of the original one and there is no denial on that. You over reacted but you fail to explain this, answering a question with another question is most of the time a sign that there is not a straight answer to the question and one just try to avoid the answer. Anyway, you should check inside the case because the counterfeited seal is of very poor quality (look at the pixels around the samsung sign) and it's very possible that you got scamed yourself.
If you look at my posts in "Bitcoin Forum > Economy > Marketplace > Goods" you will see how I discovered a few scamers and until now I was never wrong. I didn't say you are trying to scam, I just pointed out the fake seal on top of the original one, why so jumpy?

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Quote from: jcoin200 on June 23, 2014, 10:44:59 PM

Quote from: jonsi on June 23, 2014, 04:51:07 PM

It's suspicious that you aplied another seal on top of the original one.

Are you kidding me? Why in the world would I post an up close high res pic of the seal if I was trying to pass off a used phone as new? Really think someone wouldn't be able to tell once they got it? I have never seen so many paranoid posters as on this forum.

Looking at the second pic, it does appear that there has possibly been a second seal placed on top of the original so you gotta cool it a little bit. That being said, if this would've worked on the Sprint network, I would've grabbed it in a flash!

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Quote from: jonsi on June 23, 2014, 04:51:07 PM

It's suspicious that you aplied another seal on top of the original one.

Are you kidding me? Why in the world would I post an up close high res pic of the seal if I was trying to pass off a used phone as new? Really think someone wouldn't be able to tell once they got it? I have never seen so many paranoid posters as on this forum.

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It's suspicious that you aplied another seal on top of the original one.

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Quote from: LouReed on June 23, 2014, 04:39:13 PM

Quote from: jcoin200 on June 23, 2014, 04:26:40 PM

Still selling, after doing some research Verizon SIM cards will not with this phone, they are still CDMA.

However, any GSM SIM will, such as AT&T, T-Mobile, Straight Talk, etc.

How about Ting (Sprint network), how would one find out if it will work with them?

I dont believe it will based on my research. Their service is also CDMA.

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Quote from: jcoin200 on June 23, 2014, 04:26:40 PM

Still selling, after doing some research Verizon SIM cards will not with this phone, they are still CDMA.

However, any GSM SIM will, such as AT&T, T-Mobile, Straight Talk, etc.

How about Ting (Sprint network), how would one find out if it will work with them?

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Still selling, after doing some research Verizon SIM cards will not with this phone, they are still CDMA.

However, any GSM SIM will, such as AT&T, T-Mobile, Straight Talk, etc.

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