Topic: [CLOSE] [banned mixer] Bitcoin Mixer Review#1| 6mBTC+Lifetime 50% OFF | Bonus 10mBTC (Read 2655 times)

Thank you all again for your congratulations.

I confirm that I have received the 1st place prize from Tumbler.io and received a code for a 50% discount on Bitcoin mixing.

I will follow the development and improvement of this mixer, as well as new announcements related to this service.

Discount code sent to everyone who had their review in this campaign. Thank you all for joining us. We will have a signature campaign very soon :-)

I have closely been following up with this review campaign and to be frank I knew Ratimov would hit the trophy onset from when I saw his application and being the first to have submitted his review.  I knew it  and had to watch, read and alas my predictions were correct as he took the lion share of the rewards.
 Congratulations Ratimov and Tryninja and to the Tumbler team for this review. Royse777 did a good job here and I really like the way the review was coordinated by him. Here I can confirm that he is a top notch manager

Congratulations to Ratimov and TryNinja.
Ratimov was my number one as well, as stated in the other thread, so I am not surprised. When I saw his review, and he was the first, I immediately thought: "man, after this review, how will mine look like compared, like a total amateur most likely" .

Anyway, I can confirm I code the code via message.

I guess we will be hearing from tumblr soon, good luck with your mixing service!!

Payment sent for group#2: 4339350ee1dc90d98f007e008622bb57fa8f8dc1b7f4733b99a55f9a95ed3841
The discount codes will be sent in the next few hours via PM. Once you have it, please confirm.

To be honest everyone did a great job but congratulations Ratimov and TryNinja. Good work there.

Congratulations Ratimov and TryNinja, haven gone through you both review I actually wanted to predicts that it could be given to you both, although I had 3 person's on my list to be selected as the best and finally the both names appears that means I was correct within myself.
You guys are really knowledgeable, learning from you both is another things that has added something to my wisdom bank.

Once again congratulations.

Then Secondly, I want to appreciate Royse777 and [banned mixer] for giving us this opportunities to be part of this review.
Thank you and we hope to hear from you soon.

What an delightful surprise! Always fun trying to find breaches on a new service. Thanks, guys.

I've replied to your PM with my btc address.

Congrats, Ratimov!

It would have been a great honor for the [banned mixer] to make it into the top 3 of your mixer's rating and the ratings of other mixers users.
I believe that the second round of Review campaign will showcase the progress.

   
    I would like to thank all the participants of the Review campaign#1 on behalf of [banned mixer].
Your participation has been invaluable in helping the project improve this bitcoin mixer, and I greatly appreciate the effort and expertise each of you has contributed. I look forward to your continued engagement and hope to see your valuable feedback in future contests as well. Thank you for being a part of [banned mixer] community!

   I am delighted to announce that Ratimov has emerged as the winner in the Review campaign#1!
Congratulations on this outstanding achievement!
Your participation and professional testing skills have significantly contributed to the improvement of [banned mixer]. It was a tough choice, but being the first reviewer is always more challenging than the others. Moreover, your comprehensive review highlighted several crucial oversights. In recognition of your diligence, I am pleased to announce the decision of [banned mixer] to award you as the Best Reviewer of Review campaign#1 with an additional prize of 0.01 BTC. I hope this small gesture conveys my appreciation and gratitude for your hard work.
Congratulations once again on this well-deserved victory!

   I also want to express my gratitude to TryNinja for the successful conduct of stress testing for [banned mixer] mixing platform. Your professionalism and diligence have helped us identify and resolve several potential issues, making the service more reliable.
As a token of my appreciation, I'm pleased to announce the presentation of an additional prize to you, amounting to 0.004 BTC. This small gesture is meant to convey my respect for your efforts.
Thank you, TryNinja, for your valuable contribution and assistance in enhancing [banned mixer].
   
   Soon, I will post an analysis of your suggestions in this [banned mixer] forum thread, and then the second round of the review campaign will begin.

Thanks everyone for your reviews. We will send the payment for group2 very soon and the management will give a feedback with the announce of winner of the best review. I will PM you the discount codes later today.

It was nice reading all those feedback last few days.

Bitcointalk username: Faisal2202

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I audited the website's UI and UX first and found some mistakes and some suggestions to make, but I will write it at the last of the review. Now first, I will share my experience with BTC mixer [banned mixer] and what problems I faced (if any). I first compared the [banned mixer] with other mixers and found some resemblance in UI features but most of the features Tumbler had while many other mixers don't.

Security Level: Basic
Browser: Google Chrome
Service fee: 0.4%
Delay: 4 Minutes
Amount sent: 0.0015BTC
I will receive: 0.001294BTC

As aforementioned I sent 0.0015 BTC to [banned mixer] and due to the network congestion, my transaction got delayed for like 1 hour and 49 minutes. I set the delay time to only 4 minutes, and security level to basic, and only one receiving address (I prefer one only). I just had to wait due to the congestion which would have been solved if I had used an RBF-supported wallet. But I used Trust Wallet (TW).



Well talking about first mixing, the experience was great, I really liked the captcha feature because it will reduce the bot attacks that money launderers might use to make quick TXs and it will also prevent the overloading attacks. I did not find this (captcha) feature in any other mixer (I would mention names here of the ones I have checked but I prefer not to, I hope that might not be a problem).

The UI was so smooth and lag-free, even though it uses JavaScript. I really liked the calculator feature but of course that's not something new, some popular mixers already have a "fee calculator". I did find some missing things that will make the UI more user-friendly. For example the following one:

Consider them as suggestions:

1. Write somewhere in the red area that, you can add up to 10 different receiving addresses. The only way was to click the Plus icon to check how many receiving addresses we could add while if a small line is written there, then it will become easier.

2. You guys should add the total receiving amount too when we increase the number of receiving addresses. You can add that section right there where I marked red. It will come more handy while keeping track of how much we are paying on fee and how much we are going to receive in total. I had to use a calculator. I know none of the other Mixers I have experienced, have this feature besides just a simple fee calculator, but it will be super comfy and UI will become more user-friendly.

3. It would be great if we would manually write the percentage to allocate to each address (when we add more then one receiving addresses). But most of the mixer don't have this feature too, I think its on purpose. And just to add, I really liked the strategy of not allowing users to divide the amount into equal parts like in 50% 50% parts. No matter how much I tried but we can't divide them in equal parts. First I thought that's due to the slider but later I came to remember that they have already wrote on their website that


Overall experience of Mix 1 on Google Chrome (browser) was super smooth, I did not faced any errors or any kind of issue.

Checking Privacy Score
Now, I thought I should check the level of privacy it has, I tested it on 3 different platforms:

1. AML telegram bot (@cryptoAML_bot ) --> where the risk was around 27% (which shows that, the address was linked to another address (which was also mine) otherwise, according to that bot this percentage means the risk is not that much.

2. btctester--> where it shows the privacy level is 40.71%. Which according to this platform is average.

3. Blockchair too --> There the transaction was tagged as critical due to the link to the address (source) which is connected to CEXs.

The results were different on each platform, and of course each have different matrices to track a TX. But so far, I manually checked the transaction history, and the results were satisfied, because besides an expert analysist no one would track the transaction (receiving wallet address).

Now I will try my 2nd Mixing and will compare the privacy scores of both, and also try to check manually.

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Security Level: Standard
Browser: Mozilla Firefox
Service fee: 1.8%
Delay: 6 Minutes
Amount sent: 0.001294BTC
I will receive: 0.000.00107071BTC


As stated above, I used Mozilla Firefox (browser) for the second mixing on [banned mixer] and the experience was smooth as it was on Google Chrome. I faced no errors and problems at all. The big errors were already spotted by the early reviewers and the team was so active that, they immediately covered most of the errors. Well, We will talk about team at the end.

Well, for the second mixing, I still used Trust wallet. I set the delay time to only 6 minutes and selected the security plan of "Standard". Receiving address was still the one. Because increasing addresses will definitely improve the privacy score, but I wanted to compare the Basic and Standard at same settings of receiving addresses. So, I kept it same (means only one). I also used the tumbler code but of course it don't have any discount yet, but eager to use the discounts in future.



I faced no problem but the suggestions are same, that I wrote after first mixing. Besides that, the mixer works smoothly without any lags or problem. Really surprised to see the smoothness it is like some old and experienced mixer.

Checking Privacy Score

1. Checked the privacy score on the AML telegram bot (@cryptoAML_bot ) --> the score was 58.6% which according to that bot's setting is not good, It consider as highly risky but in reality it should not be in highly risky category. Well, Let's see others.

2. On btctester it still shows the same score that it showed in the first mixing --> 40.71%

3. On Blockchair the results was better, now it shows a moderate privacy score of 60


In conclusion to the Privacy score, Standard security level did played an important role and the score of privacy can obviously increased by adding more receiving addresses or delay time. Means Standard is better than Basic and that is proved by blockchair result.

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Contacted the support to ask questions about their project because I did not faced any technical issue. The team replied me saying that they will answer within 12 hours. After receiving a reply I can tell how fast they were. Till then, I wanted to say few words about the team, as they really showing their enthusiasm in this project, because they instantly worked on all the suggestions and errors, that early reviewers reports, like the following ones.

• Addition of Dark Mode
• Addition of Delete chat option
• Addition of delete logs before 24 hours manually
• Language issue of going to English after refreshing page.
• Addition of Bech32 address.

Ok, I received the reply after 25 minutes, Which is very long time (but once you got there attention then you will get reply in minutes), I think if they will decrease the delay in response, then there will be more trust of users on them. And they should have an alternative contact system other than website only. There Twitter profile is also outdated, they should update it and also remain active there for online awareness (if they want it).

Problems I faced

• Any thing I wrote in the box, after sometime, it disappear automatically while it should not.
• Whenever I write something and want to send it I have to click on the send button, while it should also be done by clicking enter key on the keyboard, it also did not work with shift+Enter. Which means, we have to click via mouse on the send option.

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The UI of [banned mixer] is so friendly, and easy to understand, that even a newbie with no crypto knowledge would understand what is happening here and how to mix BTC. The overall, UI experience was good and smooth. But I think some of the following things need corrections:

1. On the homepage, this multimedia (video) was not working, I tried to click it on different browser too, but it did not played any picture or video, I think you guys should make it work.

2. We all know that, Twitter has rebranded to "X" even though the domain is not changed yet, but the Logo is changed in all over the world. So, you should also use the up-to-date logo of Twitter (opps), of "X" in the bottom. Acceptance of new changes increase impression.

3. A link can be given for users to direct go to the page you are referring to, Because it will be hard for newbies to search about Tumbler on BTT. More ease for the users will show more devotion and users will feel comfy with you.

4.  I think you guys are trying to say --> Send the BTC to the address while you wrote "Send the transfer to the address." It is really very confusing while reading the website content, please correct it.

5. Your website name is [banned mixer] <-- last io are in small letters, but in your website content, you wrote io as IO (in capital letters) which seems to be unprofessional and not really good too. I suggest you guys to use the io everywhere. It would also help to rank your main keyword.

Overall, experience is great, I tested the Mixer on two different browsers and faced no error, the mixing was smooth like butter. There was more than enough content to teach a newbie, how to use mixer and how things works. Transaction fee was also lower than many other mixers which is a plus point. But could be reduced. The time of delay should be increased (more than 3 days). Besides this, I think the team has working so fast that, they did not integrate a suitable dark mode. The dark mode, is not matching with the theme of website. But that can be corrected with time.

I really liked this mixer and will use it further. I hope my suggestion will be of worth. Thanks for giving me a chance to review [banned mixer] mixer. Keep growing.

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Bitcointalk username: Potato Chips

Initial Thoughts

Website looks clean and professional-looking. Glad to see the team was able to integrate dark theme immediately. I went through the website’s nooks to see if they work as intended and they all responded well except for the video on the homepage-- I even tried it on clearnet with my content blockers turned off and nothing played. I guess there is no video.



Another thing I noticed is the big/inflated claims which I’m not a fan of.

1. “Absolute safety and reliability” (ANN thread) - mixers are in a grey area hence I would never think of them with absolute safety and reliability.
2. “most reliable Bitcoin Mixer and Tumbler service in the crypto world” - self-explanatory
3. “Many positive customer reviews on forums speak about [banned mixer]’s reliability and solid reputation.” - if this was true, it would have shown in bitcointalk as it’s no understatement it’s one of the go-to place for advertising mixers.


MIXING

First mix setup:

- Basic
- Tor Browser
- 2 receiving addresses
- 2 hours 6/7 mins delay
- 0.43% set fee
- 62.76% and 37.24% allocation

Let’s talk about some quality of life features first!

Onto the visuals, I was on dark mode and the colors came out nicely. I really liked how each addresses were color-coded during the mix process, it made things a lot easier to follow.

There’s also a valid address checker as I tried typing random characters and mistyping one character each address. All instances returned a greyed out ‘Continue’ button. To improve this, I would suggest showing an “invalid address” error next time so it’s more clear for the end user.

I also noticed that there is an order ID so I copied the entire URL, abruptly closed my browser, shut down my PC and came back after an hour or two. Voila, I was still able to restore my session. A small suggestion would be to make the order ID a bit more obvious, add a one click button ‘copy to clipboard’ button and perhaps a separate field to enter order IDs in order to restore session.

The sliders are really nice to look at and works well however I think an optional manual input of figures would be nice as well since the process would be a lot easier that way.

Onto the mixing, I was playing with the sliders and it was surprising how my setup garnered strong anonymity level despite the addresses having almost the same delay.

Next step was the terms and  conditions. Naturally, I read it and found the "PROHIBITED ACTIVITIES and COIN FILTERING" clause very concerning. If I have to be honest, having my transactions analyzed by a who-knows-who third party would be a deal breaker as these parties are typically designed to fetch more information about the users which obviously does not blend well with privacy enhancing services like mixers.


Onto the deposit process! I was once again surprised as my deposit address wasn't native segwit which is a bummer as that save some fee as well.

Further, I got the letter of guarantee file well which has all the needed information. Consequently, I went to verify this with electrum and it returned “signature verified”.



I set an alarm before the timers hit 0 and can affirm I got the bitcoins in a matter of seconds after the timers hit zero. I checked the coins on the block explorer, unfortunately, all the address involved aren’t native segwit hence the other end could make a good assumption on what is the change address.

At the last part, I had an option to destroy my session so I took that, hit refreshed and got an error. As a just in case, I came back after some hours to access my destroyed session and had the same error. It worked well.



A small suggestion would be to add an optional feature to automatically destroy the session once the bitcoins have been sent out.

Second mix setup:

- Premium
- Firefox incognito
- 2 receiving address
- 30 mins and 144 mins delay
- 3.60% set fee
- 32.21% and 67.79% allocation

The same as last time, the nitty bitty bits worked well. After sending my deposit, mixer was able to detect it in a matter of seconds, once confirmed, it was able to detect it in the same manner as well. I've only checked the calculator accuracy this time and I got the same figures once the mixer detected my deposit.

Sad to say, my deposit address is still in P2SH format and all the addresses involved in my second mix were of that type as well.

Furthermore, the change address from my first mix was used for my second mix 



As I said before, the terms of service is really a deal breaker for me so I don't think this is something I'd keep on using. I'll keep an eye on the thread though since it does seem like Royse is planning to do couple more batches of reviews and tumbler plans to incorporate ideas from members along the way. We'll see...

                                                                My review in [banned mixer]


Username: GeorgeJohn.



A. Interface

The Interface design of the website is very attractive and if Interface of website will be attractive to customers and customers will not find the website discouraging  to access because of the designs, secondly, for the aspect of the speed of the website, I used two internet to access the platform which is browser, using a browser to access the platform it was absolutely fast to open the website, I have to test run the platform with chrome Internet browser, when I used chrome to access the website all the segment of the website opened as I expected, so therefore, their is no error find accessing the website Interface.

B. Dark mode
The dark mode have a vital impact in the website because when I clicked on the dark mode the website changed to dark,  the lightening of the website reduces and all the characters written in the website deemed it fit to change immediately and it gives me more comfort to access the website, because their is an increase in a reduction of the light Ray from the screen of my system to my eye, so with the help of the dark mode the reflection of light reduced to normal, I think  in this aspect of control of website lighting the Web designer of this website deserved an accolades.

C. Languages
This site is very courageous due to its been designed to the extent that it has a numerous  Languages depending your precised choice of language, when I saw the option of Languages I was astonished because it marvelled me because some of the website doesn't required option of language to be applied in some of the website I come across, so the language option is depending on your preferable language and your country or destination will determine your options, it's tangible as we have other Languages, but what I to ask is that is not possible to make a provision of some continent Languages like African. The website is supported with different languages such as eight speaking languages, this are the following languages that is been supported to the website
1. Germany
2. Spanish
3. Chinese
4. Italian
5. Russia
6. French
7. Japanese
8. England

D. Support team chart
When I contacted the support team to present my complaint of deposit just to check how active is the support team chart, i was asked to select an option and after filling the column given by the site to place my names and another column of catchall was given to complete the procedures, and after completing the procedure the support presented an error has occur please refresh the page and try again.

I think they should be more attention towards or concerning the support team to respond to any complain presented by the customer within no less than 30 minutes to give a feedback to the customer. And anything that should be necessary to give an attention and it requires a correction is a notification, when you chart with the support team and it happens that you left the particular tab and switch to another tab, you will not receive a notification that come from the support team but when you click on the previous chat you will seen that they have responded to you. Secondly, the team gives a link that you will copy and open another browser before you can get response from them, while can't us contact the team directly to the website without opening another tab or Internet to get response from them.

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Deposit and mixing
Step1: the step one has to do with entering of your catchall security and after inputting your captcha images that been displayed to enable you have an access.
Step2: this is the [banned mixer] gives an option of entering your receiving address, and [banned mixer] code, and column for [banned mixer] code, where it displayed optional, now you have to enter your receiving address as many as you want either bch32 or legacy and compatibility wallet address depending how many addresses you wanted.  After adding you have to make use of security level in which I used standard level, the fee of each of added wallet address will be controlled by the service fee through a navigator controll which shows the percentage security level.

Security level option
● Basic service fee
● standard
● Premium

◇ Basic Service Fee: this security level is the least service fee that should be done with 1.47% at the back of the lines demarcation but when it close the lines it will be at 1.63%
◇ Standard Service Fee: the security level is the second fee option that has to deals with 1.90% but when it approaches the demarcation line directly in the middle, the service fee changes to 2.46% but when it fully covered the column of standard security level, the percentage approached to be 3.43%
◇ Premium service fee: A premium has the highest service fee by percentage, because at the initial of premium, it has to be at rate of 3.86% service fee and at the middle or centre of the column when you navigate to little front it will be at service level of 4.31%, so the extreme of premium column gives us 5.00% service fee, Note: All the fees depends on the kind of percentage allocation you added will determine your minutes confirmation



The deposit and mixing have to do with alot of precautions which involves step by step, at first I funded my receiving wallet from coinomi to a trust wallet in which the transaction took place, and after depositing my receiving wallet I move further to select how many minut
es it will take for confirmation, and after done that a wallet address was given to deposit from my receiving wallet to the wallet [banned mixer]
provided which I deposited.


Confirmation: the confirmation did not up to 30 minutes before confirmation, so the website was faster in processing the deposit waiting confirmation in which  I was not expecting it to reflect immediately I deposited my funds to the wallet given by [banned mixer]  and it processed within short time as I portrayed from the beginning, what observed is that before any of the stages get confirmed it will rotate or spin more than 15-20 minutes , apart from the mixing that took hours before getting verified.

Their is alot of delay in mixing a coin, other stages of the transaction did not take much time but mixing took almost 2 hours 47 minutes before it finished it running process, so I want to if they will be amendments of the time mixer took before mixing the coins, or the time factor should be determine by the perceentage allocation, if it should be determined by the percentage allocation that means it's very nice mixing a coins.

Summary : this mixing platform is very nice to use for mixing of your coins in different wallets, and I have seen that the objectives of using mixer is because its for privacy and any coin mixed particularly with this mixer the way I seen the platform is untraceable, secondly if they will be any measure for the platform of [banned mixer] to take look of notification of support chat, it will be very good, because the notification should be one of the things that will make customers to know when [banned mixer] respond to them, and it also shown how active is the [banned mixer] in reactions of reports by customers.

I will write this review according to my personal experience and according to my limited technical knowledge, because I am not a "computer security expert", a blockchain developer, nor am I a kind of user that requires absolute anonymity in the blockchain. But I do have questions and personal opinions, and I might have found some things which could help [banned mixer] improve their service.

Mixer Name: [banned mixer]
Test Date: September 30, 2023
Reviewer: Wind_FURY

Introduction

- [banned mixer] is a Bitcoin MIxer that obfuscates a user's transaction trail, and like other mixers/tumblers, it also helps increase the network's "anonymity set".

Impression

- The website's UI/ UX is very straight-forward, very easy to understand, and everything a user needs is easy to find. Because it uses a modern framework based on Javascript, it's also very functional in small screens/mobile.

The Test

- For my tests, I did it in two parts. The standard, "I will use the default settings" test, AND the premium "I want to be more anonymous" test.

A. Default Settings Test

- This test was done in a mobile phone, with a Safari browser. Everything was very easy, simple, and designed that newbies who had basic knowledge can use the service.



- There's actually nothing more to say except for a "critical privacy" issue warning from BlockChair, which might not be an actual issue for this test, but I possibly found an issue in my premium test.

B. Premium Test

- In this test I used a TOR Browser, I used a higher fee, and added one more receiving address. The website worked perfectly. No issues with UI/ UX, BUT I need to say that I used the TOR browser in default settings, without script blocking extensions.



- But I may have found an issue. I checked the transactions of the change address of one of the senders, and I saw another transaction that might be by another fellow tester? I checked both of my receiving address and I can confirm that it isn't mine. If it's actually an address by a fellow tester, it could be a serious issue for everyone who uses the mixer.



Other Comments

- It's mentioned in [banned mixer]'s Terms that the mixer might use a service of a third party to filter outputs. My fellow posters in the forum know that I believe there's nothing wrong with taking this trade-off to protect itself and its ability to provide a service. BUT it opens a can of worms because how can the users refute a false positive?
        
The filtering entity could always say that a positive whether true or false is proof that the system works, but a "false negative" is merely because it's not filtering restrictive enough. Then instead of helping increase Bitcoin's anonymity set, [banned mixer] might be its own problem to the vision it has set for itself.

- Accept Lightning transactions. I'm not sure about the implementation, but It's probably good to give the users a choice whether to send their coins on-chain or off-chain through Lightning, not because it's cheaper, but because it adds another layer of anonymity and privacy.

- Fees. They're high. Although because of my own understanding and belief of what the Bitcoin network should actually be, some of the time I don't mind paying for higher fees than average, but like my fellow testers' suggestions, if you could make it lower, then make it lower.

Sorry for the delay, I was stuck in a wedding ceremony for the previous two days and did not have time to write a review, but I am now free, just returned home, and I will submit my review before the deadline.

I am happy that Group 1 submitted their reviews.

From group 2 following users, please do not miss your deadline.

Cheers,

Username: Hamza2424

Reviewing [banned mixer], here is my review of the tumbler mixing service and the overall experience with the mixing service. I'm trying to use the hybrid comparison approach, comparing the Mixing service with the competitors and my own mixing experience on the platform as well, I tried 2 transactions with a Security level of Basic and standard on two different browsers.


Directly moving to the mixing service the service fee offered by the tumbler is quite decent as compared to the other mixers, Tumbler offers a service of min 0.40% to max 5%.

• First Mixing
  
   ☑ Browser: Firefox
   ☑ Amount: 0.002 BTC
   ☑ Total Fee: 0.0004 BTC In Receiving addresses
   ☑ No of Reciivng Address: 2
   ☑ Mixing: Basic
  
  Rating: 3/5
  
  In the first mixing the basic mixing service is used for mixing the coins and the additional information is mentioned above, In this mixing the service used is 0.41%, As per the mixing on the receiving end two different delays are chosen for 6min and 18min respectively. Overall that was a smooth experience but I would to mention here that there were a lot of Mentions to DownloadLatter of Guarantee and for a newbie who is not very familiar with the Mixing service platform made it very easy, He can mix the coins smoothly.
  
  
  
  
  
  While Reviewing the Mixed coins privacy I would like to add that the privacy level of the mixed coins on the Basic standard is average, it made a score of 60 points and easily got tracked, and immediately Blockchain linked both my receiving addresses I think it could have been more efficient if we had increased the transaction delay.
  
  
  
  
  The mixing service fee is decent (Lower compared to others) but at the same time the transaction fee for every receiving address is Quite high, In a case where a person is trying to move a small amount like 0.01BTC or 0.02BTC and using 5 receiving address, this fee is quite high.
  
  
• Second Mixing
  
   ☑ Browser: Chrome
   ☑ Amount: 0.002 BTC
   ☑ Total Fee: 0.0004 BTC In Receiving addresses + 3.63% Service fee
   ☑ No of Reciivng Address: 2
   ☑ Mixing: Premium
  
  Rating: 1.5/5
  
  The mixing standard is premium while considering the second mixing test and the service fee charged is 3.62%, some additional information is mentioned above, 2 receiving addresses are used here as well to compare the mixing quality with the basic level, In the results I'm not at all satisfied I'm not sure why but the privacy score is so disappointing as per in premium service my address won't get tracked as per it was a concern in Basic service by the Privacy score is 20.
  
  
  
  
  It's not at all reasonable as there is a need for improvement, My receiving address didn't get tracked but it could be due to the previous mixing I tried a lower delay in my transaction here this time the delay was 28min for the first receiving address and 1hour 8min for the second receiving address. Here While mixing coins on the Chrome browser I encountered a laggy UI, and for some reason, I tried 2 to 3 times while creating an order. Unfortunately due to a sudden network issue, I did create an order again.
  
  
  
  
  

To be honest, I'm a little bit confused while discussing the UI, as there are not many bugs I have encountered in the UI but there are No without JS-UI support, the UI was responsive while I was using it on Firefox, at the time I did found it a bit laggy while using it for the second mixing on the chrome browser. It would be better if there is any Without-JS support available or a lighter mode of the UI. While going through the whole process of mixing from getting in to getting out the UI helps a lot a very decent newbie guide approach, where a lot of Cauptions as for the latter of garutnee and for the multi deposits on the same order generated address.

A good approach overall but I think there is a high need for a lighter version of UI without JS support. I was checking in the initial reviews, there was no Dark mode support and now it's working correctly. Hoping for more to be updated sooner.

UI Rating: 3/5


First of I would like to mention that there's a bug in the support chat at least I have encountered many times on two different devices, using the firefox I tried to ask a few questions and consistently after finishing the question when I tried to click on the Send Message button the question disappeared and I did test it many many times, sometimes when I use to write something and again to add some more in the same question the previous message gets disappeared, I don't know why but there an issue in the Chat Box even sometimes after writing query if you wait for a couple of seconds and again try to send message the message gets disappeared. I tried my best to explain what was happening. On both of the devices, I was using Firefox and the Grammarly plugin installed to avoid typo errors.

At the same time, I think there is a need for notification on the Support Response and a timer as well to delete the chat History, as the chat section records the Previous history there's a manual chat deletion option but for a better approach there is need of a timer to delete the chat. The overall response is better than some of the competitors but it still needs to be improved by a few suggestions I have mentioned.

Support Rating: 2.5/5


In this section I'm trying to cover the highlighting features of [banned mixer] and other mixing competitors in the market, I will try my best to cover as much as possible what Tumbler is offering and what the others are offering. I checked 5 different mixers and my ending thoughts after comparing are as follows

Pros:

 ✓ Provide a Higher number of receiving address Support compared to competitors (up to 10)
 ✓ A lower Basic Mixing service fee of 0.4%
 ✓ Single confirmation support to proceed with the order
 ✓ Transactions are much after compared to most of the competitors
 ✓ Better Discount Program
 ✓ No logs Policy (I'm not sure as I can see there is 24 order details timer)
 ✓ Regular Boosting with Tumbler code

Cons:

 ☆ No Taproot support
 ☆ No Without JS Version
 ☆ Although transactions are faster but costly compared to others.
 ☆ No Partner System (Refferal System)
 ☆ No captcha protection in Start (Do consider additional captcha as well) maximum
    competitors support multi-captcha protection.
 ☆ The Support System is not very Reliable.
 ☆ Need to Improve the privacy level, especially in Premium mixing.
 ☆ Consider the notifications in the support system.

I don't want to make much recurrent but for a mixer what matters is the privacy, protection, and Cost, In service cost Tumbler, is the first choice, privacy I'm not so sure as per the Basic mixing privacy I'm a bit satisfied but for the premium one the results are disappointing maybe it can be due to the lower Pool capital but cant give any benefit of the doubt in a review. Protection is OK in my view but some additional layers can make it leading one on this point as well. UI does and doesn't matter in most cases.


Tubmler is a decent centralized mixing platform, it assists us with the service fee but the total transaction fees need some improvements overall it is a considerable mixing platform. For those who are new to Bitcoin mixing, I would recommend you to use Tumbler as here platform its UI assists you in every way to protect, no log policy is widely covered still the order details remain on count 24 hours after this specific timeline if you havent deleted by yourself platform removes itself. In Support sometimes they respond really but sometimes they make it more difficult to be considered as reliable if there's an emergency.

FAQ covers a very decent segment here as I have seen many other platforms FAQ but for the beginners they've made it easy to know almost the maximum of the things, The Mixing service is reliable I had tested Basic and saw a couple of users reviewing standard as well which comes with some decent results comparing to the market competitors but on the premium service tested by me is not satisfying there is the room of developments.

I'm gonna end it here, if you are a newbie/beginner its highly recommended to use [banned mixer], for the members who mix their coins mostly I would say read most of the reviews and then make a decision, for now, team is improving their services, after a few updates I think tumbler is gonna be a strong competitor for other, but it needs some improvements.

Bitcointalk username: Trofo

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I skimmed trough some of the reviews and I saw multiple people complaining about lack of dark mode. Did you guys not see this or is that maybe not shown correctly on some browsers? Looked really easy to spot to me and I did not even look for it.

My review of [banned mixer]

Setup
I used windows 10 system on a PC I had for a while and I have several browsers installed there. I presumed most of the other users used chrome/firefox/edge so I went with less popular browsers and checked the Tumbler page in Brave/Opera/Vivaldi and Pale Moon. Did the actual mixing in Brave and Vivaldi and used electrum for all my transactions.

Tumbler web page
I really like the look of the page itself; it is simple, clean and easy to use. Just what I am looking for in sites that provide services. Somebody complained it lacks a bit of identity and while that can be a minus from marketing point it is actually a plus for me here. When I am choosing mixers I am choosing them on underlying technology and ease of use, UI should be minimal and not encumbered with unnecessary graphics that just distract users.

Mixing process
It was all straight forward and I did not need to look into FAQ or ask for help from live support in any point of the process. I must admit I am not a mixer user in general but I did try Chipmixer, Sinbad and Whirlwind before this one, so I would say I have solid experience. Everything was clear all the time and it was smooth experience. Here are two pictures showing my chosen options.





Why is there a need for captcha? Never seen that on mixer before. Are there bots using mixing services and even if there are why would that be a problem if they are paying same fees.

What happens if user does not send the transaction in 24 hours and is unaware of the time limit? Are the funds lost? What happens in case we loose internet connection or our PC resets, I don't see a way how to continue with just info from our tx.


Fees:
Fees are too high for small amounts (flat address creation fee) but I don't think that is a big minus since I sort of expect majority of mixer users to do bigger transactions. Can't really think of a reason why would someone mix 1 mBTC amounts other than testing purposes like we are doing here.

On the other hand Tumbler is sending transactions with really high fees all the time. This seems problematic for two reasons.
First: it could be cheaper and there could be significant savings made on large amount of transactions. For instance my tx had fee of 43 sat/byte while 10 would be overpaying for first block confirmation.
Second: It could be used by blockchain analyses software to auto target Tumbler transactions

Tumbler code for next order
This is quite unclear how it works. I get it in broad sense, it is used to avoid receiving your own BTC in next transaction. Problem is why is that necessary? Are our funds just waiting on that one addy and will be sent to next person? This has broad security implications and I feel like I could get "dirtier" BTC back than ones I started with. FAQ does not explain this in any greater detail.

Furthermore please add explanation for Tumbler code on following page:



I had no idea what it is for since I chose immediate transfer on first try and did not see the screen where this is shown:




General conclusion:
Frontend is good and does not much work in my opinion. Just add some more explanations in right places as I mentioned above with Tumbler code.

Backend needs a lot of work to reach the level of best mixers out there. First there is a feeling like there should be much more funds available. Comment that I need to use a code to avoid getting same BTC back in next transaction really surprised me. There should be variable fees implemented which will monitor the state of mempool and add some sort of random element to them. Would also like to read much more about how actual mixing works (what is happening with our BTC on Tumbler wallets). For instance we all knew how Chipmixer had premade chips which the user would then get private keys for. I like to know how the service I am using actually works before I would trust them with serious amount of money.

Bitcointalk username: Bitcoin_Arena

First impression
I love the fact that the site loads fast both on the clearnet and Tor mirror. This is a huge positive. We have a lot of mixers using Cloud-flare and the loading plus captcha challenges as one just tried to visit the site can be quite annoying.

User Interface and Homepage
The UI is nice on both light and dark themes, but the home page could do better with less clutter of information or articles. Most of the information is repetitive, for example, The home page already has two links to the blog and FAQ both at the top and the bottom, so there’s no need to add FAQs or the blogs in the body of the homepage. This makes scrolling to obtain vital details such as the official Bitcoin address and Tor mirror hard. In fact, such details should put somewhere more visible and not hidden at the bottom where one has to scroll a whooping 14 pages down in order to see the bottom. It should be around 2 pages maximum.

DDoS protection service
The service uses DDoS Guard to protect itself against DDoS attacks, which can turn out to be a loophole in the future for a service that promises its customers ultimate privacy. With the dangers DDoS Guard could pose, I think you should look for alternative ways. Better safe than sorry.

Support for different languages
The support for other available languages is pretty good, except for the Terms and Privacy. Whenever I clicked on the terms and privacy while in using another language like Russian or French, the page would automatically revert to the homepage in English. A customer need to clearly understand the terms before they use the service, so how is a Chinese supposed to understand English?

Terms and Privacy
I noticed something rather peculiar about your terms

How are you going to determine where the transactions come from? Are you going to involve KYC? Chainalysis? Of course the question is rhetorical, but you get my point.

This feels discomforting, especially coming from a coin mixer that promises absolute anonymity.

Why?

Mixing Process
The mixing page is simplified with pop up definitions or descriptions of each component. The anonymizing meter and fee calculator are a great addition, however the Transaction fee for each receiving Bitcoin address seems to be a little too high.
I noticed that the Bitcoin transaction fees for the transactions to the target are over paid almost all the time

Here are the transaction fees to my target address after the second mixing session today


How about you make that fee dynamic based on the state of the mempool. Let the fee estimator look like that of some popular wallets out there, such as electrum.

I intentionally repeated one of the addresses when entering them on the order details page and on trying to proceed, the continue button was grayed out.
To make it easier for the user to figure out what the problem could be, there should be a small note below the repeated address space.

On the next page, which is one for Order Overview, The letter of guarantee downloaded checks out and can be fully verified. Bitcoin.com is anti Bitcoin and not the Best Bitcoin signature verifier out there. Please suggest something better like Electrum wallet, Sparrow wallet etc

When mixing using the different languages available, I noticed that the Letter of Guarantee is still signed in English.
How about you take it a step further ahead of your competition by providing letters of guarantee depending on the language set by the user when trying to mix.

I mixed two times, but let just point out the results of my second time of mixing. The time range was low, but I was disappointed on how the mixer used change addresses to fund both my target addresses

These were my target addresses.
1. bc1q660842ggcj3gtn20px09u3vxr584gj9h98n68j
2. bc1qltlptzcnvh8apnspue0a7w7hd7p8sa7u424vgl
Notice how the previous change address is used to fund my next address. If I had used 10 addresses, I guess the same thing would have happened. I have no good knowledge of some visualization tools, but this would be a piece of pie for the deanonymization experts.



I also intentionally left the order page time to run out past 24 hours, and nothing else changed apart from the timer.



Once the 24 hours have passed, this order page should expire or the deposit address should be hidden if it has not received any deposit with instructions to the user to start the mixing process afresh

Refreshing it bring this error message, which is persistent. Please fix


Support/Communications channels
The support option is integrated within the site, which could be disadvantageous to customers in case the website goes offline. They will be no way customers can get in touch with you, so you could also include an email option, maybe ProtonMail

Twitter is not necessary, maybe a social network that is more into privacy.

Conclusion
The whole mixing process was smooth and with improvements on the service, it will be an anonymizing service worth paying for. I am not really satisfied with how the coins are mixed and can easily help the Chainalysis experts or services connect the dots without much effort.

Bitcointalk username: examplens

my test of [banned mixer]

Design: The site definitely has a modern design with all the necessary elements. It seems that the team immediately reacted to some criticisms, and compared to a few days ago, I see that dark mode has been added.
If we talk about dark mode, I think that black (HEX #000000) is not an ideal solution, or at least it should have one more shade. This way we have a barely recognizable text box compared to the background


Or for example, the question mark with the info cloud is almost unrecognizable


However, the site is too generic for me, and maybe I can say that I have seen it somewhere before. It looks like a purchased stock template, so I would comment that more uniqueness is needed here.
Having blog posts on the page brings advantages, but I would instead set up a mixing page as a home page (check sinbad.io for example), and all those who want to know something more always have a menu and additional links.

Hosting: I have to emphasize again, an excellent choice for the domain. One of the best in the mixing industry.
If I saw correctly, you are using hosting from DDoS-Guard, at least IP 186.2.163.50 belongs to them (https://whois.domaintools.com/186.2.163.50) or at least under their protection.
I believe you already know about the negative impact of anonymity when there is an intermediary between your service and the user. However, why choose DDoS-Guard, when they have a rather bad reputation? Mostly bad feedback at Trustpilot (Even those few 5 ratings seem pretty fake, which is even worse, but that's another story)


https://www.trustpilot.com/review/ddos-guard.net

When you say that you delete all logs within 24 hours at the latest, can you be sure that DDoS-Guard also not collecting any data?


As we already mentioned deleting or saving data, you say that you delete all the information, but still keep it encrypted. So the information that you are deleting all the data is not correct (you are misleading the users here) because you still store it somewhere, at least in an encrypted form.
I only hope that the answer does not lie in encryption which is impossible to decrypt. Many hacked services said the same thing before the hacks. I don't expect that someone will hack your (or any other) mixer because of the information about the addresses that passed through the service, only this part should be formulated differently by your side

Mixing:
For the first time, I chose the Basic security level with a 0.42% service fee. With 4h delay, the Anonymizing meter says Good
I don't know if there have been any changes here, but now the mixer asks me to solve the captcha code, unlike the previous days when it just skipped the first step.
Really until the end of the whole process, all the steps were very clear and it was almost impossible to make a mistake due to "not understanding" the process. I personally consider it important and I have to praise it here.
There are several warnings that it is mandatory to download the Letter of Guarantee, but is it possible to insert a step that will enable the further process only after clicking on "download"? Currently, there is only a check box that the user is aware of the importance of the letter of guarantee, and this is just as (un)useful as confirming the age of majority to access a porn site.

What happens to funds that arrive at the generated address after 24 hours? Why can't that order be accessed again with the Tumbler code in case of transaction delay? There are possible legitimate reasons for such a scenario.

In case of closing the page while the order is in progress, you have not left the possibility for the user to open the same page again. If he wants to check the timer that counts down the time until the end of mixing.
I would suggest that you add such a possibility. For example, you can add a link inside the Letter of Guarantee, a new user who closes the page will not know that it is a link format [banned mixer]/order#B8R9QE1O-6Z2UU3 you can add some kind of search box on the site for order ID's, or at least an explanation in the FAQ.

Exactly after 4h 1min, I received a mixed BTC amount. Of course without any connection with my original coins.
I'm not sure if the option "Delete immediately" was added in the meantime while I'm writing this review or if it appears after a certain time, but I wanted to suggest something similar. It should exist immediately after the final transaction is completed.


AML Bot recognized the address from which I received Bitcoin as a low-risk score. Well, even though I chose almost the lowest level of anonymization, it seems satisfactory. Again, I leave open the question of how adequate AMLBot is.




I decided to do the second mixing via the TOR page, with a slightly higher level of anonymity. So, a Premium level of security divides the amount into two addresses.
I tried to add a taproot address which is not supported by [banned mixer], except for the slightly red-marked address field, there are no other indications that something is wrong. The continue button is disabled because of that, which is good as a preventive measure to avoid unnecessary mistakes. However, during the process itself, there is no information as to why it is so (disabled continue button), so it can lead to confusion in this case. It's not a big deal, but it would definitely be useful for users.



Happened to me too, the error page and it is quite possible that the wrong captcha code was entered. However, I received a vague message about where the error was, so I logically decided to do everything from the beginning.
I would emphasize that in such cases, things must be as clear as possible and if there is a mistake, the wrong entry should be unambiguous information about it.



As far as I have noticed, only Segwit addresses are always used for deposits, why not use Bech32, or even better combined?

In addition to the fact that this time I decided on the Premium security level, and entered more addresses, AMLBot showed a higher level of risk, almost worrying.


However, there is more disappointment here, because both addresses received the same funds, that is, they came from the same address. It is very easy to connect them. I am under the impression that it was an unnecessary waste of a fee for an additional address
(I made a chart, if necessary, I can fill in addresses and transactions)


I saw that some other members previously emphasized the excessive fee paid by the mixer. That was also the case with me. 40 and 43 sat/vB, although at that moment the recommended fee from the network was 20 and 27 sat/vB. It seems like an unnecessary waste of resources.

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Tumbler code: I'm not sure I have the best understanding of its effectiveness here.


- The tumbler code is supposed to protect me from getting the same coins again, does that mean that there is a high probability that I will get tainted coins from someone else?
- After two transactions, now I have two different Tumbler codes. Does the new one also inherit the information from the previous one, or in the next mixing can it happen that I get funds back from my first mixing?

Terms & Privacy:


Is [banned mixer] a registered company?


To put it even more simply, you can keep Bitcoins if you judge that they came from illegal activities. Without the obligation to explain the method of how you determined the "illegality" of the funds and whether any third party participated in the analysis?
This does not promise to gain trust.

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To summarize my impressions when using the Tumbler mixer.
The whole mixing process on the site looks good. With small corrections, it can really be comfortable for the user to use this service. What may not give a passing grade is the general impression of anonymity and the fact that coins are not untraceable, even a short check through the blockchain is enough to see the connections.

Compared to the current strong competition in the mixer business, this service will have to improve a lot.

Good luck with your business, I hope I have been of help.