Managed to negotiate somewhat favorable pricing for March 18th. Closing this group buy now. Opening the March 18th. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-1ths-1kw-28nm-miner-4200-march-18th-btc-wire-paypal-last-call-500969
I've contacted @Xyver to discuss options with his order.
Topic: [CLOSED] 1THs 1kW 28nm ASIC Miner - Rush Order, Free March 10th Shipping (Read 5136 times)
March 04, 2014, 11:22:39 PM
March 04, 2014, 11:08:55 PM
No worries man. I am interested in the units as well, but $5400 is too much. If you can get some better pricing, I will look at getting a unit.
Given how drastic the price drop is... if I can find a way to get it, I'm tempted to close this group buy as it stands, and start up the March 18th one now. 
March 04, 2014, 10:58:12 PM
Sorry, my response probably came out a bit blunt.
That link is for the March 18th order, and it is an exceptional price. I'm under the impression it is a very short-lived price. We'll put together another group buy for the March 18th order, and do what we can to get as close to that price as we can. If anyone who has expressed interest in this group buy wants to wait a week to get the lower price, let me know.
Re: chip source... we didn't disassemble any of the blades to check the actual chip used. It hashed at the advertised speeds in an environment with only moderate climate control for a week with no issues. If you have concerns about the chip source, then I'd recommend careful consideration. I'm not interest in providing products people are unhappy with.
That link is for the March 18th order, and it is an exceptional price. I'm under the impression it is a very short-lived price. We'll put together another group buy for the March 18th order, and do what we can to get as close to that price as we can. If anyone who has expressed interest in this group buy wants to wait a week to get the lower price, let me know.
Re: chip source... we didn't disassemble any of the blades to check the actual chip used. It hashed at the advertised speeds in an environment with only moderate climate control for a week with no issues. If you have concerns about the chip source, then I'd recommend careful consideration. I'm not interest in providing products people are unhappy with.
No worries man. I am interested in the units as well, but $5400 is too much. If you can get some better pricing, I will look at getting a unit.
March 04, 2014, 10:53:06 PM
Sorry, my response probably came out a bit blunt.
That link is for the March 18th order, and it is an exceptional price. I'm under the impression it is a very short-lived price. We'll put together another group buy for the March 18th order, and do what we can to get as close to that price as we can. If anyone who has expressed interest in this group buy wants to wait a week to get the lower price, let me know.
Re: chip source... we didn't disassemble any of the blades to check the actual chip used. It hashed at the advertised speeds in an environment with only moderate climate control for a week with no issues. If you have concerns about the chip source, then I'd recommend careful consideration. I'm not interest in providing products people are unhappy with.
That link is for the March 18th order, and it is an exceptional price. I'm under the impression it is a very short-lived price. We'll put together another group buy for the March 18th order, and do what we can to get as close to that price as we can. If anyone who has expressed interest in this group buy wants to wait a week to get the lower price, let me know.
Re: chip source... we didn't disassemble any of the blades to check the actual chip used. It hashed at the advertised speeds in an environment with only moderate climate control for a week with no issues. If you have concerns about the chip source, then I'd recommend careful consideration. I'm not interest in providing products people are unhappy with.
March 04, 2014, 10:48:32 PM
Not trying to mess with your buy, but again this website http://www.lketc.com/goods/show-197.aspx has the exact same miners you are selling. Good luck with the Chinese translation. These are also the same miners that pcfli is selling.
Thanks for the link.They are the same miners a dozen people are selling. I welcome you to order from the site you linked, as long as you're willing to accept minimum order quantity of 10, delay shipment until March 18th, pay your own shipping, and you have the chinese id number required to make the purchase. Also, their stock status says '0'.
No thanks. I agree a lot of people are selling them, but as this post https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/does-anyone-know-the-difference-in-these-3-miners-500340 suggests they are using stolen chips. So beware and good luck.
March 04, 2014, 10:40:42 PM
Not trying to mess with your buy, but again this website http://www.lketc.com/goods/show-197.aspx has the exact same miners you are selling. Good luck with the Chinese translation. These are also the same miners that pcfli is selling.
Thanks for the link.They are the same miners a dozen people are selling. I welcome you to order from the site you linked, as long as you're willing to accept minimum order quantity of 10, delay shipment until March 18th, pay your own shipping, and you have the chinese id number required to make the purchase. Also, their stock status says '0'.
March 04, 2014, 10:10:06 PM
Not trying to mess with your buy, but again this website http://www.lketc.com/goods/show-197.aspx has the exact same miners you are selling. Good luck with the Chinese translation. These are also the same miners that pcfli is selling.
March 04, 2014, 10:03:08 PM
What will they charge on March 18 shipping.
I would rather wait and save the $2000 usd
Its the same technology as the Ant so no reason to pay any more for it.
How about without Power Supply as those Chineese PSUs are worth crap anyway.
Ant right now 1.16 and will be lower on 3/18.
I can go $4500 on a 3.10.14 ship or will wait for the 3/18 can do cash or BTC
BTC will be $800 in short run by those dates but it doesnt mean it will stay there...IE could drop all the way back down.
Thanks,
Robb
I don't know the price for the March 18th units yet; we're already attempting to get updated info for that batch. Their price on their website for March 18th has a minimum order quantity of 10, and it doesn't line up with any of the pricing they've offered for people doing group buys. We're getting in touch with them now to see what's going on.I would rather wait and save the $2000 usd
Its the same technology as the Ant so no reason to pay any more for it.
How about without Power Supply as those Chineese PSUs are worth crap anyway.
Ant right now 1.16 and will be lower on 3/18.
I can go $4500 on a 3.10.14 ship or will wait for the 3/18 can do cash or BTC
BTC will be $800 in short run by those dates but it doesnt mean it will stay there...IE could drop all the way back down.
Thanks,
Robb
I do not believe this is the same technology as the Ant. Ant was 55nm, these are 28nm, last I checked. These are closer to A1 chips, although we didn't fully disassemble the unit to verify the chip. 8 chips per module, 200GHs per module... whatever the branding, it delivered on the performance it promised.
The system will be drop shipped by the vendor; we don't have control of the supply included.
$4500 is way below cost for these; I can't help you there.
I'll keep everyone posted on the March 18th status, as I hear more. We'll finish this group buy, and start a new one for the March 18th when we have more details.
March 04, 2014, 08:52:14 PM
I'll buy 4 for 4500 for march 10th date...Can't justify paying any more. Let me know if we can work it out.
March 04, 2014, 07:50:22 PM
What will they charge on March 18 shipping.
I would rather wait and save the $2000 usd
Its the same technology as the Ant so no reason to pay any more for it.
How about without Power Supply as those Chineese PSUs are worth crap anyway.
Ant right now 1.16 and will be lower on 3/18.
I can go $4500 on a 3.10.14 ship or will wait for the 3/18 can do cash or BTC
BTC will be $800 in short run by those dates but it doesnt mean it will stay there...IE could drop all the way back down.
Thanks,
Robb
I would rather wait and save the $2000 usd
Its the same technology as the Ant so no reason to pay any more for it.
How about without Power Supply as those Chineese PSUs are worth crap anyway.
Ant right now 1.16 and will be lower on 3/18.
I can go $4500 on a 3.10.14 ship or will wait for the 3/18 can do cash or BTC
BTC will be $800 in short run by those dates but it doesnt mean it will stay there...IE could drop all the way back down.
Thanks,
Robb
March 04, 2014, 06:56:52 PM
Cheshyr,
It does look like a nice piece of gear. Like another member said though, BitMain's prices dropped and thus they are driving the market pricing right now. If you were able to match, or even better, provide slightly lower pricing per Ghash you'd get a TON more interest. In fact, you wouldn't be able to keep units in stock (which is a good problem to have).
H@shKraker
It does look like a nice piece of gear. Like another member said though, BitMain's prices dropped and thus they are driving the market pricing right now. If you were able to match, or even better, provide slightly lower pricing per Ghash you'd get a TON more interest. In fact, you wouldn't be able to keep units in stock (which is a good problem to have).
H@shKraker
If these are the Dragon 1 TH units, their website lists them now for 19999 Yuan = $3255 USD.
Thanks for the feedback. I haven't been able to find the Dragon-branded 1TH units for that price, shipping on Match 10th. The 20k price was for March 18th. These all appear to be the same units, being resold by different vendors. We've chased it as far up the food chain as we were able to get on short notice, and these were the prices we were able to get without ordering massive quantities.
The S1 price drop puts the Antminers at about $4.40 per GH, at 2W per GH. The pricing for these miners comes in at $5.40 per GH, at 1W per GH. I can't argue with the cost effectiveness of the S1s, but I will mention power usage and hashing density considerations. You can get a lot more hashing power off a standard electrical circuit with these units. Also, you have to provide your own power supply for the S1.
Anyway, we're ordering a few units ourselves, and wanted to offer the opportunity to the community. If you're interested, let us know. We'll do the best we can to negotiate prices down, but for the March 10th order, this is pretty much our limit from this vendor.
edit: We will set up a group buy for the March 18th shipping date as well, provided they update their pricing as well.
March 04, 2014, 04:09:43 PM
If these are the Dragon 1 TH units, their website lists them now for 19999 Yuan = $3255 USD.
March 04, 2014, 04:00:57 PM
Cheshyr,
It does look like a nice piece of gear. Like another member said though, BitMain's prices dropped and thus they are driving the market pricing right now. If you were able to match, or even better, provide slightly lower pricing per Ghash you'd get a TON more interest. In fact, you wouldn't be able to keep units in stock (which is a good problem to have).
H@shKraker
It does look like a nice piece of gear. Like another member said though, BitMain's prices dropped and thus they are driving the market pricing right now. If you were able to match, or even better, provide slightly lower pricing per Ghash you'd get a TON more interest. In fact, you wouldn't be able to keep units in stock (which is a good problem to have).
H@shKraker
March 04, 2014, 03:22:44 PM
34 hours left for BTC payments, 46 hour for wire transfers. When this group buy is over, I'll consider settig up another for the March 18th batch. Let me know if you have any questions.
March 03, 2014, 08:39:29 PM
bitmain antminer prices just dropped, makes this unit some what expensive i think
Interesting. I'll poke at the vendor and see if they're willing to budge, in light of the Antminer price drop. I'm not expecting much though. March 03, 2014, 07:07:58 PM
bitmain antminer prices just dropped, makes this unit some what expensive i think
Interesting. I'll poke at the vendor and see if they're willing to budge, in light of the Antminer price drop. I'm not expecting much though. 
March 03, 2014, 07:04:05 PM
@ipxtreme: I've PMed you.
Anybody else? I know it's short notice, but I thought I saw a lot of interest in the other threads that died.
bitmain antminer prices just dropped, makes this unit some what expensive i think Anybody else? I know it's short notice, but I thought I saw a lot of interest in the other threads that died.
March 03, 2014, 06:47:05 PM
@ipxtreme: I've PMed you.
Anybody else? I know it's short notice, but I thought I saw a lot of interest in the other threads that died.
Anybody else? I know it's short notice, but I thought I saw a lot of interest in the other threads that died.
March 03, 2014, 03:06:23 PM
i'm interested.
March 03, 2014, 03:04:45 PM
Reserved for Order Status Info:
Xyver, 1 unit, reserved.
Xyver, 1 unit, reserved.
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