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Topic: [CLOSED] BTC Guild - Pays TxFees+NMC, Stratum, VarDiff, Private Servers - page 411. (Read 903150 times)

legendary
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Everything should be going smooth again.  Any idle issues should be clearing up, I've added more detailed getwork/share submissions to the logs [something I used to do back with pushpool, not with poolserverj].  I've already temporarily banned a few workers who were operating under 10% efficiency while requesting multiple getworks per second.

I will not ban inefficient workers when they're only requesting a piece of work infrequently, so CPU miners don't need to worry.  These bans are targetting workers which are asking for abnormal amounts of work while returning very few valids.
full member
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All three of my miners are mining away, submitting shares, but the stats are not updating, haven't for 15 minutes or so.

This related to the updates or is it some other issue?!?

*edit*

As soon as I posted this, they stopped. Oh, well
legendary
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Pushing a few updates to the pool today to help with the growth we're seeing due to the rally.  This will cause a few brief periods of idles, but should solve any other idles being caused by malicious/broken miners.
sr. member
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CGminer is constantly throwing a Pool 0 not providing work fast enough.
omo
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can I use port 80 to mine in this pool?
sr. member
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I heart thebaron
Fair enough, I must have misunderstood. Thanks for clearing that up.
The pool still rocks, as always, and performs better than any other pool I have ever mined at.
Thanks for making it available for us.
legendary
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Now it seems that since the Hall of Fame was brought up a few posts ago, it has simply stopped counting stats all together.....

You had also mentioned when first switching over to PPS, that you would evaluate the Fee and possibly drop it back to No-Fee if things worked out.

Does that offer for re-evaluation still stand ? The pool seems to be doing well, although only you know for sure, as the stats seem frozen in time.

Hall of Fame is currently frozen, expecting to put up a new version in the next day or two.

I don't recall ever saying I'd consider dropping it to No Fee again.  I've said it in the IRC room many times:  You can't run a sufficiently large and reliable pool based on donations.  People are not charitable enough to keep you afloat, especially in PPS where I absorb ALL the risk.  Over time, donations shrink and shrink, and you end up operating at loss when BTC is worth so little compared to what we saw over the summer.

A few weeks ago, I was considering a drop to 4%.  Not a big drop at first glance.   Then for the last three weeks (excluding Monday/Tuesday this week), luck was signifcantly negative, to the point that over 1,500 BTC of my buffer evaporated.  A good chunk was restored Monday/Tuesday, but its back negative the last two days.  I'm not willing to run the risk of PPS only with even lower fees when miners are owed ~950 BTC/day, regardless of how many blocks are generated.
sr. member
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Now it seems that since the Hall of Fame was brought up a few posts ago, it has simply stopped counting stats all together.....

You had also mentioned when first switching over to PPS, that you would evaluate the Fee and possibly drop it back to No-Fee if things worked out.

Does that offer for re-evaluation still stand ? The pool seems to be doing well, although only you know for sure, as the stats seem frozen in time.
legendary
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Hall of Fame is BTC only.
I was really hoping it wasn't...lol...as that either makes me the luckiest or dumbest miner out there, having found 5 blocks for the pool since the switchover, while taking out less than 2 blocks worth in payouts...LOL

I would have felt much better if that included NMC blocks...hehe

There is actually a small bug in the hall of fame blocks found stat.  Hoping to fix it when I update the HoF to give some short term Top Miner stats (since some miners could quit and still maintain a top 25 spot for a LONG time).

It's pretty obvious that blocks are occasionally being counted twice.  When you look at the top 3 miners and notice all 3 of them have found ~2-2.5x as many blocks as that many shares should have found.
sr. member
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I heart thebaron
Hall of Fame is BTC only.
I was really hoping it wasn't...lol...as that either makes me the luckiest or dumbest miner out there, having found 5 blocks for the pool since the switchover, while taking out less than 2 blocks worth in payouts...LOL

I would have felt much better if that included NMC blocks...hehe
hero member
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Hall of Fame is BTC only.

Eleuthria, i don't want to question your wisdom (since you programmed the Hall of Fame), but are you sure it only displays BTC Blocks found ?

It seems the pool has been running way luckier than it should if that is the case....

For example, I (UserID 42927) submitted 1,861,100 shares and found 8 blocks (should be almost 2)
The User that submitted the most shares: 119,361,416 found 258 blocks (should be just over 100)

and that goes for all the users, we are all much luckier than we should be  Grin
legendary
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Hall of Fame is BTC only.
sr. member
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I heart thebaron
In the BTCGuild Hall of Fame, does each User's 'Found Blocks' count include NMC & BTC ? or BTC only ?
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Please give more information with actual numbers, and your miner/settings.  Your description is impossible.  Your earnings are calculated live based on share counts per difficulty.  There is literally no way for earnings to increase without a corresponding increase to share count.  Your earnings will not rise while your share counts remain stable.

I can't give you actual numbers right now because I did not take screen shots earlier, and I have not seen the issue since 1700GMT today (Saturday).  However, I am certain that after I reset the shares accepted for both BTC and NMC to zero and started my miner, the shares accepted remained zero for BTC, but it climbed for NMC.  I am also certain that while the shares accepted for BTC remained at zero, the unpaid rewards climbed as well.

My miner settings are as follows:

phoenix -u http://worker_1:[email protected]:8332 -k phatk2 DEVICE=0 BFI_INT AGGRESSION=7 WORKSIZE=256


The best I can come up with is you're mining on a worker thats hidden, or submitting shares to a backup pool.  Your share counts wouldn't visibly rise if mining on a hidden worker (since the worker stats are hidden), but the earnings would rise since they're shown regardless of hidden workers.

If I were submitting shares to a backup pool, then the share count would not have been rising for NMC, nor would my unpaid rewards rise.

I will be watching for this over the next couple of weeks, and if I see it I'll be sure to grab a couple of screen shots for you.

Right now I'm not too worried since the unpaid rewards amount doesn't seem to be affected.
legendary
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I just noticed something strange.

I was watching my mining client submitting shares to BTC Guild, and comparing the number of shares submitted to the number that was displayed in my worker summary.

Usually when I do this, I see an exact correspondence between the shares that are submitted by my mining client and the statistics displayed in my worker summary.

However, for at least a couple of hours this morning (perhaps longer, but until about 1700GMT), my mining client was submitting hundreds of shares and they were not showing up in my BTC Worker Summary.  Now I know what you're thinking -- something went wrong with my mining client.  But I verified that it was working by switching over to Deepbit and was able to verify that my share count was rising as expected over there.  Moreover, back on BTC Guild, I noticed that my "shares accepted" for this worker was rising normally for namecoins, but did not rise at all for bitcoins.

I wanted to bring this to the Eleutrhia's attention as well as to alert other BTC Guild users to spot-check their submitted stats against what is reported from time to time to make sure you're being properly credited.

Edit:  Although the "shares accepted" for bitcoins is not rising, I see that the value of the reported bitcoin rewards is rising, so this is not as serious as I at first feared assuming I am being credited the proper amount per share (it seems right, but I have not yet properly verified it).  So it just seems like it's a minor issue of the number of shares not being correctly reported.


Please give more information with actual numbers, and your miner/settings.  Your description is impossible.  Your earnings are calculated live based on share counts per difficulty.  There is literally no way for earnings to increase without a corresponding increase to share count.  Your earnings will not rise while your share counts remain stable.

The best I can come up with is you're mining on a worker thats hidden, or submitting shares to a backup pool.  Your share counts wouldn't visibly rise if mining on a hidden worker (since the worker stats are hidden), but the earnings would rise since they're shown regardless of hidden workers.

The only mismatch in share counts vs miner counts should be limited to the 10 second window between shares being submitted vs being logged [10 seconds being the maximum window, assuming your share was submitted instantly after a batch was logged].  This is of course assuming your miner isn't broken and counting multiple share submissions if there was a communication error.
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I just noticed something strange.

I was watching my mining client submitting shares to BTC Guild, and comparing the number of shares submitted to the number that was displayed in my worker summary.

Usually when I do this, I see an exact correspondence between the shares that are submitted by my mining client and the statistics displayed in my worker summary.

However, for at least a couple of hours this morning (perhaps longer, but until about 1700GMT), my mining client was submitting hundreds of shares and they were not showing up in my BTC Worker Summary.  Now I know what you're thinking -- something went wrong with my mining client.  But I verified that it was working by switching over to Deepbit and was able to verify that my share count was rising as expected over there.  Moreover, back on BTC Guild, I noticed that my "shares accepted" for this worker was rising normally for namecoins, but did not rise at all for bitcoins.

I wanted to bring this to the Eleutrhia's attention as well as to alert other BTC Guild users to spot-check their submitted stats against what is reported from time to time to make sure you're being properly credited.

Edit:  Although the "shares accepted" for bitcoins is not rising, I see that the value of the reported bitcoin rewards is rising, so this is not as serious as I at first feared assuming I am being credited the proper amount per share (it seems right, but I have not yet properly verified it).  So it just seems like it's a minor issue of the number of shares not being correctly reported.
legendary
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I do not have any plans to support I0C merged mining.  The fact that anybody has the slightest interest in I0C at this point is baffling.  It's got nothing to offer.  The only reason I implemented NMC merged mining was that NMC serves a purpose outside of being traded for BTC (even if most people don't utilize that purpose).  Nothing like that can be said of any other altcoin.  Piggybacking chains onto BTC when they are technically a competing chain is just stupid.
hero member
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Will there be a merged-mining option for I0Coin when it hits block 160K?

That would put the entire chain in the hands of BTCGuild.... wouldn't trust it with anyone else !!!  Wink
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Will there be a merged-mining option for I0Coin when it hits block 160K?
legendary
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Reject rate is higher than GPUs (Hard to compete with < 0.1%), but even so the speed I'm measuring is valid shares only.

Why some shares are rejected?

Invalid shares should not occur since all submitted shares are double checked, by the FPGA and by the software.

Duplicate shares are possible since BTCMiner re-sends shares if pool server does not reply within timeout time.

Stales are possible too. (A stale reduction algorithm is planned for future).

BTW, BTCMiner counts only successfully submitted shares with a valid response as "submitted shares".


The rejects are mostly duplicate shares, and slightly higher (not much) than average stales.  Overall they're still measuring above your advertised speed, although some improvements to stale share recognition could bring them up to par with GPU miners like cgminer.
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