Topic: [CLOSED] P2P Crypt Logo (Read 3280 times)

By your logic then everyone that sent me a submission should be suing each other because they all similar.

All fallacies and I'm closing this thread.

I think you're reading too much into what subSTRATA said with all the law crap...

Anyway, on the face of it, it looks like you've acted in pretty bad faith, given that you're logo in that video looks exactly like subSTRATA's but with a different font. I expected it to be different seeing as you claimed you'd found a friend to do the logo *before* subSTRATA even posted his design.

Claiming that it isn't much work to create such a logo, therefore it isn't worth anything is not a valid argument. You're paying for something you could not do yourself which you've proved by the fact that your design is a copy.

I don't mean to sound like I'm attacking you in particular but this is to generally to every artist I've worked with that I was refereed to somehow by this forums since this is becoming an increasingly apparent nature and maybe it's just me or I don't understand the life of an artist and I could be ignorant when I think the following but.

Why is it when someone declines your work you feel the need to defend your emotional selves by threats/mention of legal action?

If anything the threats just seem null & void and almost desperate for money(which doesn't look good to employers) that you have to automatically assume your clientèle is stealing your work. Perhaps learning a few lines of copyright laws (international copyright laws is a start) would be nice so you can realise that unless you register your work with your national office(Now I’m speaking from USA law) you can't make any monetary gain from the infringement, you only have the rights to stop the organization from using "your work".

To subSTRATA: This kind of negligence of respect to your clients is almost despicable to present me with a "plain jane" fonts and slap some colours on it and then claim some how that you "own" the idea of symmetry and that here on out you own every P2P Crypt logo based on symmetry? Granted I must say I did like the logo, but it doesn’t "say anything" my organization is trying to say. Not with words obviously though.

I digress, According to copyright laws you can't own an idea so your artist experience sounds of very little if you've never ran into any problems where you've never ever had to talk to a legal lawyer, but lets say by chance that you've always picked the right clients up until now, its probably a good idea to not make your self look funny in public about what you think you know about copyright laws and to actually go find a legal lawyer that can guide you when it is appropriate to "threaten" your client with legal action.

Just to prove a point to all other artists that have sent in 5 minutes of photo shop work that were all pretty darn similar and some how expect to be paid 3 Bitcoins (or even 2 Bitcoins). I made the following video clip and two logos all in one hour(link below) not just to prove a point to the "artists" out there that the stuff they "PooP" out isn't gold any more but also to show any legal office and lawyers that there is no case and this is a joke threat.

In case any of these legal-kiddies want to go toe to toe about what they own; This is proof that if it ever went to court you will be laughed at because "Why should I pay the carpenter for chair that I made from start to finish? I'm almost positive every chair manufacture doesn’t pay patent fees for making the chair"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YKHUpFutPA&feature=autoshare

Lol y u red/bold symmetrical

I'm closing this thread as my partner drew a nice logo on a piece of napkin that I will scan into the computer and digitize it and make it look symmetrical and all that fun stuff!

Unfortunately no can do - this is *client side crypto done over plain HTTP* which is only suitable for browsers that support sessionStorage (but I will add be adding an error message if the object is null).

You can check for localStorage and sessionStorage support:

In case it's not supported you should try falling back to cookies or something.

Hmm... am not sure why you don't have sessionStorage unless you are running a very old/disabled version of FF (a TOR bundle version perhaps?).

The system does require localStorage and sessionStorage support (yes it's a little "bleeding edge" perhaps but it needs these features in order to do the client-side crypto and later to be able to give you the convenience of being able to "stay logged in").

Sure - I use a "redirect" instead (supposedly okay for HTML 5) but don't get at all why the Project Task page would be any different (there is only *one* actual *page* on the the whole of CIYAM Open).

You need to allow .js or all you will only ever see a blank grey page (that is the way it works - all content is AJAX injected).

I am going to be adding a .js checker (similar to blockchain.info's one) soon - so hope you can be a little patient if that's what you are wanting before you will use the site (you are welcome to contact me directly with any concerns or queries).

If it's not .js then please let me know what browser you are using (should work fine with IE, FF and Chrome).

That actually looks better than I had imagined.

And recent discussions with CIYAM developer is doing lots of updates, so regularly check out for it to work again.

It sound decentralized in that there is "No single point of failure" but my needs require a "Decentralized web of trust" to truely make this system no single point of failure.

I used Pidgin and have fiddled with XMPP and I don't like the idea of plug-ins at all it allows mixed security standards to clash and that just doesn’t sound like fun for anyone to go through all the troubles of taking on such an inconvenient risk, Also the point of this project is have a "Turnkey" solution, Right out of the box BAM login, start "Skyping" with secure communications, voice, video, text, file transfer, etc. Then in the future once I have a user base I release my portable electronic solution which is more secure than the desktop apps.
 
I'm at a catch22 right now, I can't produce my device and sell it until I can prove to investors I can get a userbase so instead of hyping up a "Portable Electronic solution" that nobody is allowed to touch I have to build and produce a Desktop application to show I’m not talking out my other end to the world,community and potential investors.

Perhaps if they wanted to could build a p2pnode XMPP relay server. Any ways if you don't understand why it looks like I'm reinventing the wheel, its because I'm not, I'm taking all the best attributes from every system ever made and combining it in a legit fashion so both our futures can be secure with out "educating" how to "Swap keys" or the "importance of face to face key exchange, but you can't do that because the internet doesn’t facilitate anything legit".

P2P Crypt thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/peer-2-peer-open-source-encrypted-text-voice-video-communications-131905

Substrata,

That logo is epic, and i havent "choosen" anyone and no btc has left my hands. I just want to be professional as possible by alerting to the community that they should look else where for work as of this moment. Someone enlightened me with an article that shows that money incentives dont always work (aka bounties) and on top of that its not fair to take up everyones time in the community and everyone but one persons logo was in vain. So im trying out the "bidding" system.

Seriously that logo is awsome though, but not sure how it will adapt with the current website theme.

Are you aware of Jabber/XMPP ?

Its mainly an open source messaging protocol (but i think there are also extensions for video/audio too) like ICQ but its decentralized as anybody can run a server (eg some privacy/IT organizations run a server) and probably every software compatible with XMPP supports PGP and/or OTR encryption.

Thanks, I'll gladly consider you if the current contract doesn't work out. Cheers mate!

Hey Xenland,

I would love to make this logo for you, not only for the money but also I think this is a great project you're working on. I am willing to do it for 2 btc. Please check out my signature to see my work. If you like it and the other guy falls through I'll gladly hop on board. Thanks!

I've come in contact with someone who will finish the Logo bounty, as of right now "he owns those 3 BTC" and no one can take that from him, under the condition that he delivers of course. Will keep you mates posted.

http://ciyam.org/open/?cmd=view&data=20130124024531247000&ident=M100V131&chksum=e47c82ee

hehe i never was the creative type. Thanks CIYAM I'm going to post that right meow and hope for a bite

I'd really like to see this done *properly* (i.e. not using the "wild west bounty system" that has become too popular on this forum).

If Xenland would consider setting up a Project Task for this on CIYAM Open (and if you graphic design guys can either use GPG or are happy to use Skype to become members in order to *bid* on the task) then I will add another 2 BTC reward for this task (Xenland would have the final say as to which *bid* to accept and the *bid* is not about money but simply about letting *one* bidder work on providing a logo he is happy with within a given time frame so my 2 BTC input would not be *refundable* so if the first bid fails to deliver what he needs after decent reviewing and resubmitting then he can move on to the next bid, etc.).

Let's *get it done right* and not *pay peanuts for monkeys*!

I hate to break it to you but 1BTC wont get you much of a logo. You'll have much better luck contacting some of the professional logo designers from this forum. For only a little bit more money you'll get a professional logo in the correct formats.

Timbo is by far the best and most popular on the site: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/designer-graphic-designer-logos-78924

You can also check my stuff out too : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bigmerves-logo-design-service-2014-update-84515

It is a bit more money but I offer money back and I assume Timbo does too.