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Quote from: freedomno1 on May 18, 2013, 06:07:41 AM

Send your piffle to the correct topic first and hang out on the forums more and learn, first and foremost before making your own comments and complaining when evoorhee's doesnt check the thread. This is the satoshidice mpex announcement not the satoshidice offical page so please follow your own rules and etiquitte if your going to call someone out
As for myself
I apologize to the thread for spamming it I was talking to the MPEX-PR account and we were on a related topic and so thought it would be an acceptable extension, replying to the MPEX-PR account also seemed appropriate as it regarded related information on alternative exchanges,
trading on an exchange and inquiries into funds and was a reply to the question of commenting or amending the claim. If the error was for replying to an alternative exchange havelock on a MPEX thread regarding the posters question then that is my error.
Considering this is an announcement page for S.Dice on MPEX Dividend Paying Asset and the user was a MPEX-PR account that is authorized to comment on these type of questions I thought it would be acceptable to have a conversation on this thread regarding that topic. Since it was reported and removed I deem it was not and so I apologize for my error.

No harm done man, the 2/3rds of a page post and rationalSpeculator's pointless 'where's your argument' back and forth rustled my jimmies, so to speak. Just try to stay on topic, yu know. Just FYI though, I called you out in the post, though I didn't submit any report against you...

Just another note, this is the forum relating to securities, in this case Satoshi Dice..The one you're referring to is more of a general forum that isn't limited to the scope of SD as a security. Whereas your queries were solely about the exchanges...That would be more fitting in a PM or an appropriately related forum.

The base shares are held on MPEX while pass throughs are on other exchanges like BitFunder (that links to this specific forum in it's profile description) ...That kind of correlation is of course still of a high enough relation to be relevant here...

But still, my apologies if I was too blunt in my actions. I really hope this doesn't come between our friendship. Tongue

Now where's that Erik.....

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Quote from: MPOE-PR on May 18, 2013, 04:50:27 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

MPOE-PR, Havelock Investments have 0 fees on either buyer and seller side, yet you state your 0.2% fee sell-side is the lowest in BTC (is BTC a place now?).

Care to amend, or comment on your claim?

The best I can do is look at their site. What I see there is Sign In/Register Fund Reports Our Funds Contact Us. I don't happen to be a user, so which of these should I click to see your claim confirmed?

Quote from: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on May 18, 2013, 04:53:50 AM

They don't mention that they have fees (or rather, the lack of) anywhere, not even logged in I don't think.

I should probably help clear this up. True, Havelock doesn't charge any fees for buys or sells..only a 0.001 fee for Bitcoin withdrawals. The eventual plan is to implement a fee based system like any other exchange, but I'm not sure what Lightbox's plan / timeframe is for that. Whether or not the fee will be 0.2% or lower, I don't know.

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Quote from: MPOE-PR on May 18, 2013, 06:34:39 AM

Quote from: Abu22 on May 18, 2013, 05:18:36 AM

Stop derailing the thread with this piffle. If your so concerned about MPEx costs go to its specific thread instead of chain posting in here.

I don't see how you reason MPEx technicalities are off topic here.

Quote from: freedomno1 on May 18, 2013, 05:39:19 AM

Well since the admin deleted it

They did?!

Yep sent you it in PM instead

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Quote from: Abu22 on May 18, 2013, 05:18:36 AM

Stop derailing the thread with this piffle. If your so concerned about MPEx costs go to its specific thread instead of chain posting in here.

I don't see how you reason MPEx technicalities are off topic here.

Quote from: freedomno1 on May 18, 2013, 05:39:19 AM

Well since the admin deleted it

They did?!

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Quote from: Abu22 on May 18, 2013, 05:18:36 AM

Stop derailing the thread with this piffle. If your so concerned about MPEx costs go to its specific thread instead of chain posting in here.

Send your piffle to the correct topic first and hang out on the forums more and learn, first and foremost before making your own comments and complaining when evoorhee's doesnt check the thread. This is the satoshidice mpex announcement not the satoshidice offical page so please follow your own rules and etiquitte if your going to call someone out
As for myself
I apologize to the thread for spamming it I was talking to the MPEX-PR account and we were on a related topic and so thought it would be an acceptable extension, replying to the MPEX-PR account also seemed appropriate as it regarded related information on alternative exchanges,
trading on an exchange and inquiries into funds and was a reply to the question of commenting or amending the claim. If the error was for replying to an alternative exchange havelock on a MPEX thread regarding the posters question then that is my error.
Considering this is an announcement page for S.Dice on MPEX Dividend Paying Asset and the user was a MPEX-PR account that is authorized to comment on these type of questions I thought it would be acceptable to have a conversation on this thread regarding that topic. Since it was reported and removed I deem it was not and so I apologize for my error.

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Ah that's why
Was answering the question of MPOE-BR regarding havelock
Well since the admin deleted it will accept that I was off topic still would be nice if you said something instead of just spamming report
As for you well to be honest your off topic too this is not the official satoshidice thread
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/satoshidicecom-the-worlds-most-popular-bitcoin-game-77870
Go here or I'll report as well

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Stop derailing the thread with this piffle. If your so concerned about MPEx costs go to its specific thread instead of chain posting in here.

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They don't mention that they have fees (or rather, the lack of) anywhere, not even logged in I don't think.

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MPOE-PR, Havelock Investments have 0 fees on either buyer and seller side, yet you state your 0.2% fee sell-side is the lowest in BTC (is BTC a place now?).

Care to amend, or comment on your claim?

The best I can do is look at their site. What I see there is Sign In/Register Fund Reports Our Funds Contact Us. I don't happen to be a user, so which of these should I click to see your claim confirmed?

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Quote from: Abu22 on May 18, 2013, 02:22:48 AM

Quote from: ThickAsThieves on May 17, 2013, 11:10:32 AM

Quote from: Abu22 on May 17, 2013, 11:08:14 AM

Quote from: evoorhees on May 17, 2013, 09:44:30 AM

Quote from: Abu22 on May 16, 2013, 09:03:28 PM

Also questions posted previously and waiting on response.

- Has the $5000/month cap changed for the new employee?
- How is the conversion calculated (because I see no consistency between months) ...Start/End of the month, btc average month price, expected trend value? The information on how these numbers are calculated are integral to ensure honest business is being conducted, and that we're not just shitting magic numbers...As well as a demonstration that the last 2 months did have some sort of calculation alg in common so that we can see there was no deceit involved in the past additional fees.

These are good questions. At the end of this month, I'll detail the current expenses and what people can expect going forward.

It worries me that you didn't supply a simple yes/no to the 1st point. While also avoiding answering something I'd imagine you should be familiar with...Is the pay calculated at the start or end of the month or is is it an averaged sum of each day in the month.

At the moment, it's looking a lot like these 2 figures have little in common and are merely vectors for maximising your personal gains. I dislike making claims of this nature but with all these new costs appearing along with your unwillingness to give any sort of detailed response in regards to them leave me little choice. So please, instead of trying to shirk the issue till the end of the month, demonstrate that I am incorrect in my presumptions and that you are in fact acting with honesty and with full regard for those with a stake in your actions. Thank you.

You ask too much!

If they were answered, or their subjects weren't shrouded in such ambiguity...then they wouldn't be asked 'too much'. These are important questions, that effect all users, shareholders along with Erik's reputation. You sir, should appreciate the time I invest in persisting to get these answers as they're beneficial to the overall community.

Well hes busy at the bitcoin conference since I'm stalking that thread

Also this is not the main satoshidice official page but the Mpex page even though its popular XD

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Quote from: ThickAsThieves on May 17, 2013, 11:10:32 AM

Quote from: Abu22 on May 17, 2013, 11:08:14 AM

Quote from: evoorhees on May 17, 2013, 09:44:30 AM

Quote from: Abu22 on May 16, 2013, 09:03:28 PM

Also questions posted previously and waiting on response.

- Has the $5000/month cap changed for the new employee?
- How is the conversion calculated (because I see no consistency between months) ...Start/End of the month, btc average month price, expected trend value? The information on how these numbers are calculated are integral to ensure honest business is being conducted, and that we're not just shitting magic numbers...As well as a demonstration that the last 2 months did have some sort of calculation alg in common so that we can see there was no deceit involved in the past additional fees.

These are good questions. At the end of this month, I'll detail the current expenses and what people can expect going forward.

It worries me that you didn't supply a simple yes/no to the 1st point. While also avoiding answering something I'd imagine you should be familiar with...Is the pay calculated at the start or end of the month or is is it an averaged sum of each day in the month.

At the moment, it's looking a lot like these 2 figures have little in common and are merely vectors for maximising your personal gains. I dislike making claims of this nature but with all these new costs appearing along with your unwillingness to give any sort of detailed response in regards to them leave me little choice. So please, instead of trying to shirk the issue till the end of the month, demonstrate that I am incorrect in my presumptions and that you are in fact acting with honesty and with full regard for those with a stake in your actions. Thank you.

You ask too much!

If they were answered, or their subjects weren't shrouded in such ambiguity...then they wouldn't be asked 'too much'. These are important questions, that effect all users, shareholders along with Erik's reputation. You sir, should appreciate the time I invest in persisting to get these answers as they're beneficial to the overall community.

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Quote from: ?? on ??

MPOE-PR, Havelock Investments have 0 fees on either buyer and seller side, yet you state your 0.2% fee sell-side is the lowest in BTC (is BTC a place now?).

Care to amend, or comment on your claim?

Well I know hav fees are from the dividend side so

But I guess that is true 0.2 is not the lowest sell side its 0

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Quote from: ThickAsThieves on May 17, 2013, 11:10:32 AM

Quote from: Abu22 on May 17, 2013, 11:08:14 AM

...demonstrate...

You ask too much!

I ask more

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Quote from: Abu22 on May 17, 2013, 11:08:14 AM

...demonstrate...

You ask too much!

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Quote from: evoorhees on May 17, 2013, 09:44:30 AM

Quote from: Abu22 on May 16, 2013, 09:03:28 PM

Also questions posted previously and waiting on response.

- Has the $5000/month cap changed for the new employee?
- How is the conversion calculated (because I see no consistency between months) ...Start/End of the month, btc average month price, expected trend value? The information on how these numbers are calculated are integral to ensure honest business is being conducted, and that we're not just shitting magic numbers...As well as a demonstration that the last 2 months did have some sort of calculation alg in common so that we can see there was no deceit involved in the past additional fees.

These are good questions. At the end of this month, I'll detail the current expenses and what people can expect going forward.

It worries me that you didn't supply a simple yes/no to the 1st point. While also avoiding answering something I'd imagine you should be familiar with...Is the pay calculated at the start or end of the month or is is it an averaged sum of each day in the month.

At the moment, it's looking a lot like these 2 figures have little in common and are merely vectors for maximising your personal gains. I dislike making claims of this nature but with all these new costs appearing along with your unwillingness to give any sort of detailed response in regards to them leave me little choice. So please, instead of trying to shirk the issue till the end of the month, demonstrate that I am incorrect in my presumptions and that you are in fact acting with honesty and with full regard for those with a stake in your actions. Thank you.

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Quote from: Abu22 on May 16, 2013, 09:03:28 PM

Also questions posted previously and waiting on response.

- Has the $5000/month cap changed for the new employee?
- How is the conversion calculated (because I see no consistency between months) ...Start/End of the month, btc average month price, expected trend value? The information on how these numbers are calculated are integeral to ensure honest business is being conducted, and that we're not just shitting magic numbers...As well as a demonstration that the last 2 months did have some sort of calculation alg in common so that we can see there was no deceit involved in the past addtional fees.

These are good questions. At the end of this month, I'll detail the current expenses and what people can expect going forward.

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Quote from: freedomno1 on May 17, 2013, 07:15:42 AM

Thanks I didn't mean to offend you MPOE still learning these things

That's ok, you have to really try to manage offending me.

Quote from: freedomno1 on May 17, 2013, 07:15:42 AM

I was thinking that I would need a Yubikey on top of that and learn what the heck STAT and Armor were well as expected the bar is fairly high but once you get it probally is cake

You don't need a yubikey (nor is it actually very useful). A STAT is just that, you type out STAT and gpg-sign/gpg-encrypt it.

Quote from: freedomno1 on May 17, 2013, 07:15:42 AM

Dear Lord, what is this ?
Yes, this is dog. == God never got that reference

Some meme thing.

Quote from: freedomno1 on May 17, 2013, 07:15:42 AM

Bunch of linux nodes/unix command probably to execute orders.

Actually if you use pympex (and I think pretty much everyone does), which is simply a python script, you can run it on any platform (windows, linux, mac, anything that has python and gpg ported which pretty much means everything).

Quote from: freedomno1 on May 17, 2013, 07:15:42 AM

how the shares would be transferred etc would be a puzzle

Transferred where you mean?

Quote from: freedomno1 on May 17, 2013, 07:15:42 AM

Was wondering if you could point me in the right direction so I can calculate it then

Quote from: MPOE-PR on May 11, 2013, 07:30:03 AM

S.MPOE: April, March, February, January, [2012] December, November, October, September, August, July, June, May etc (yes it goes back further than that).

Quote from: freedomno1 on May 17, 2013, 07:15:42 AM

For example were the accounts resell-able if the cost of entry rose in the foreseeable future or were the keys assigned by IP and unique identification.

There's no assignment whatever. If you can use the registered key to sign you can issue orders, they will be honored.

Quote from: freedomno1 on May 17, 2013, 07:15:42 AM

Since passthrus are conducted through MPEX and have a reverse conversion option on most indexes what were the advantages of that and relating to that what is the average net investors wealth on mpex due to the high entry makes sense for big users to play there.

Can you rephrase this?

Quote from: freedomno1 on May 17, 2013, 07:15:42 AM

And relating to that what degree of margin is allowed was another curiosity WOT = Web of Trust ratio's to positive ratings etc and its % based return on margins.

Can you rephrase that too?

Quote from: freedomno1 on May 17, 2013, 07:15:42 AM

That said people use MPEx for a reason and it remains popular even if I don't know all the reasons why so could use some enlightenment if you have any points that I missed.

Security. MPEx is both theoretically (because of pgp, for instance) and practically (because of its history, for instance) pretty much the only secure service in all of Bitcoin (and yes, anything website-based is insecure by that very fact).

Professionalism. Too much stuff to list, not to mention too many people will get severe acute butthurt if I do. Reading my post history may be a good proxy.

Economic reasons. 0.2% fee sell side only is still by far the lowest fee in BTC. S.DICE raised ~50k BTC on its IPO, this is yet to be matched by anyone. Stuff like that.

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Quote from: Korbman on May 17, 2013, 07:29:34 AM

Quote from: MPOE-PR on May 17, 2013, 05:51:09 AM

Quote from: Rampion on May 17, 2013, 06:08:00 AM

Quote from: Rampion on May 17, 2013, 03:43:24 AM

Good time to buy SDICE shares.

Quote

“Be Fearful When Others Are Greedy and Greedy When Others Are Fearful”

I'm no professional trader, but I always follow the same simple strategy: I buy during panic sell offs caused by negative news (eg, Dwolla/MtGox situation, the block chain fork, etc. ) and I sell when others panic buy or when all the market is uber bullish

Sure, to catch the very bottom and the very top you need to be lucky and most times it does not happen, but this very simple strategy worked wonders for me, not only in the BTC world.

I bought BlackBerry stocks when everybody was saying they were dead, and I sold all my holdings during the rally prior of the official presentation of BB10, making 300% profits.

I take this philosophy to heart as well, and it has been quite helpful over the past few years. With a little due diligence it's usually easy to see when people are overreacting to news..and at that point, "keep calm and profit" Cheesy

Unless its all bloody robots why I like bitcoin exchanges not all HFT spam and noise

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Quote from: MPOE-PR on May 17, 2013, 05:51:09 AM

For the record: Korbman is some failed wannabe financier (loosely associated with some wannabe competitor for that matter). Take what he says with a grain of salt (not because what he says about MPEx is wrong, which it is, but because what he says about finance is stupid, which he is).

Lolz..let me fix that for you:

For the record: MPOE-PR is some failed wannabe financier (loosely associated with some wannabe competitor for that matter) suffering from delusions of grandeur and narcissism. Take what she says with a grain of salt (not because what she says about me is wrong, which it is, but because what she says about finance is stupid, which she is).

And I'd recommend learning to understand an exaggeration when you see it. I know there are more than 5 people on MPEx. Wink

Anyway..back on topic.

Quote from: Rampion on May 17, 2013, 06:08:00 AM

Quote from: Rampion on May 17, 2013, 03:43:24 AM

Good time to buy SDICE shares.

Quote

“Be Fearful When Others Are Greedy and Greedy When Others Are Fearful”

I'm no professional trader, but I always follow the same simple strategy: I buy during panic sell offs caused by negative news (eg, Dwolla/MtGox situation, the block chain fork, etc. ) and I sell when others panic buy or when all the market is uber bullish

Sure, to catch the very bottom and the very top you need to be lucky and most times it does not happen, but this very simple strategy worked wonders for me, not only in the BTC world.

I bought BlackBerry stocks when everybody was saying they were dead, and I sold all my holdings during the rally prior of the official presentation of BB10, making 300% profits.

I take this philosophy to heart as well, and it has been quite helpful over the past few years. With a little due diligence it's usually easy to see when people are overreacting to news..and at that point, "keep calm and profit" Cheesy

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