Topic: [CLOSED] S.DICE - SatoshiDICE 100% Dividend-Paying Asset on MPEx - page 38. (Read 316442 times)

Just dont mention the scam that is feedzebirds.

He's talking some smack about someone so they took action.

mem, You're an idiot. You an ciuciu should get together and have a little racist cp circle jerk.(Seriously, it's the ones who make the accusations that are the most guilty in most cases)  

But, then - it may seem like Erik & company aren't really that smart, or great at business. Mircea is pretty good - but, hey...he picked a usagi deal too - can't be perfect can ya?

Actually - seems pretty clear that Erik doesn't really give a shit about this business he's cashed out of. But wtf...I cashed out of most of my shares too. I won't be likely to invest in any more vorhees ventures. Follow through is lacking, but acquiring cash from investors isn't.

Still - considerably better than most of the garbage stocks out there in bitcoin land. At least it makes money most of the time.

EDIt - just noticed the color of mem's ignore button is growing.

SatoshiDice partners their business with a foul outspoken racist: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/boycott-mpex-sdice-racism-186041

Consider which bitcoin businesses you support carefully, I am advocating a complete boycott of ALL businesses that use and or support MPEx.

Anyone knows the avg time for the service to send the result back ?

For the site, the avg time for past 2 weeks for everything to load up for me, is about 1 min.

I hope the service is still fast(discounting the confirmation time), even though the site has been so annoyingly slow.

Frankly, I don't think that there is a huge problem with affiliation, as long as we know it.  For instance, Dooglus revealing that he was in some way compensated for providing a service makes me think of him as an independent contractor.  He doesn't actually work directly for SatoshiDice, and his compensation/livelihood isn't tied directly to them, so given that he has been transparent, I have no reason to think that he is posting false information to make them look better than they are.

I mean, if we were really worried about his being influenced by the financial side of things, his approximately 10,000 shares would be far more of an issue. 

We can certainly tip him, and others who provide services (preferably through something like the Reddit tipbot), but there is also nothing wrong with people being compensated by the companies that they benefit.
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I.... don't think thats a very big issue at all in this community. Most memebers have an address you can send btc to..and if they don't I'm sure they'd be happy to provide you with one if you asked. Obviously you're wanting something that's a paralell to the reddit tipbot ...But that serves a useful service on reddit because it can be sent to any memeber without them needing to know about bitcoin. It's a great tipping / marketing tool. bitcointalk is not filled with people who don't know what bitcoin is.

I do agree with the comment that affiliation isn't a big problem... Anyone should be able to say what they like in this forum, regardless of thier personal interests...If they are acting malevolently by stirriring up FUD or just disinformation then that might just catch up to them and tarnish their reputations. (Not saying this with you in mind at all dooglus fyi, just a commentary) let people decern information from what is written by others themselves.

(sorry dooglus to have infered a possible deal with you and SD, it wasn't my aim to try prying information like that, it was that I thought you'd be the most deserving of money from them...Considering you're infinitely more active on their  securities posting while those owning and empoyed by SD are nowhere to be seen.

I just wanted to bring this back on target though, because it seems to have been lead on a slight tangent.

So what's the deal with airline food satoshi dice? It's been a good week with no official comment from any staff and still feels like it's being run into the ground. It's just appauling to see so much mismanagment such a potential filled prospect.

I think the biggest thing in this entire thread is that we (as a community, I mean) need to find a way to repay people taking the time and putting in the effort to do useful things such as what dooglus does (but more generally too) without it being sponsored by the company itself (which has the problem of creating an affiliation). Any ideas?
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Frankly, I don't think that there is a huge problem with affiliation, as long as we know it.  For instance, Dooglus revealing that he was in some way compensated for providing a service makes me think of him as an independent contractor.  He doesn't actually work directly for SatoshiDice, and his compensation/livelihood isn't tied directly to them, so given that he has been transparent, I have no reason to think that he is posting false information to make them look better than they are.

I mean, if we were really worried about his being influenced by the financial side of things, his approximately 10,000 shares would be far more of an issue. 

We can certainly tip him, and others who provide services (preferably through something like the Reddit tipbot), but there is also nothing wrong with people being compensated by the companies that they benefit.

or miners may donate a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of their hash for community works, because tipping is one time thing.

Tipping is pretty easy with bitcoins, they just have to publish an address somewhere.

Maybe we should start a thread suggesting people take the time to contemplate how much said person has helped them, and suggesting people give a tip. Sort of a tipping nomination, so it does not look like the person is tooting their own horn.

The problem with this is principally that it'd seem more likely for his chosen venue to not survive until the end of the year. After their recent outright scamming who exactly would bet there?


I guess the design is so that the website itself is not particularly relevant to the service. Much like the case of MPEx itself. This may emerge as the correct way to build bitcoin services yet.


I think the biggest thing in this entire thread is that we (as a community, I mean) need to find a way to repay people taking the time and putting in the effort to do useful things such as what dooglus does (but more generally too) without it being sponsored by the company itself (which has the problem of creating an affiliation). Any ideas?

Exactly!

Long ago I received a modest tip from Erik for some statistical analysis I provided him with.  That's the extent of my affiliation with SD though (other than having spent about 40 BTC on shares which are now worth 28 BTC).  The tip from Erik just about cancels out my loss on the shares (it was back when BTC was cheap).

when a domain is renewal after expiration, it could take up to a week for the entire world to be able to access it, thanks to dns cache. If you can see the site, but bet addresses and counters don't show up, try, http://www.satoshidice.com/Bets.php to test if the mysql on backend still responds. I think, sometimes the site is so slow that the javascript that serially loads all these widgets break in the middle of the way resulting in the no show addresses widget because it's the last in the line.

Perhaps it is time to start sending tweets to @erikvoorhees

The current ask price on bitfunder is ฿0.0029690 (and bid .0022)...I'd say It usually hangs from .0030-.0038..Just not in the past month.

And honestly dooglus, I really appreciate your presence on this board, Not sure if you are affiliated or employed in some way by SD but i think if any one is deserving of an income from it, that person would be you for your outstanding contributions to the forum in matters of both non emotionally attached reasoning and mediation of ruffled feathers that appear every so often here and the useful service of the in-depth statistical analysis you provide seemingly with no personal agenda in its running. So hats of to you sir.

I just wanted to add that i can connect to the site now, however with no details of betting addresses or any sort of recent, big wins, losses etc...just the pages frame-layout..Is this a issue purely for me or is it more far reaching?

In the beginning I really liked the idea of being on the side of the casino rather than the gambler..but shit, at least a gambler gets to make their own moves..and the consequences or rewards associated with it...All we get as shareholders is the opinion that we should stop trying to fly the plane into the ground..While the pilot has earplugs in.

I certainly don't mean to.  It's pretty poor to allow the domain to expire.  Especially when you're paying someone 100 BTC per month to look after the tech side of things.

I was merely trying to explain how bets continued to be placed without the website.

I'm still unable to access the website ( I don't however gamble on it) ..But I'm becoming increasingly infuriated with the total mis managment of it, once again having a seriously negative effect on the shareprice.

Still no word from the owner/s. Still no obvious developments with the site (despite there being  some allegedly very hard, undercover work that for some undisclosed reason needs to be kept low in profile...So much bullshit)

And to add further insult the flat 100btc maintance fee/month... That's the most absurd payment scheme heard of! We all know Bitcoin is in its infancy right now and while it has a definite ground of $0/btc we have no idea of the roof...If this really is a contract signed for that amount this make S.Dice essentially worthless. It allows no grow space for the btc ecconomy for SD to keep up with...As a member posted earlier..If the price does go up enough $100 btc could be the sites total monthly income (It could seen as a month of the highest 'spending power' gain ever. If each bitcoin is worth a billion dollars there obviously isn't going to be the same raw bitcoin returns)

I'm appauled at how these last 2 months have been going. Step up your game. Or if you're finished with the game..Let sombody else take the reigns or wrap it up with a fair buyback. But what is being done now...Is far far from an acceptable course of action.

Agreed.

Regardless of how the game is played, you, guys, are making excuses about an oversight.

The website isn't really anything but an advertisement for the game.  The game itself isn't on the web, it's on the bitcoin network.