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sr. member
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July 26, 2014, 04:18:34 PM
Come oonnn, release the coins already
legendary
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July 26, 2014, 03:26:27 PM
Come oonnn, release the coins already
hero member
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July 26, 2014, 02:52:17 PM
@ koop4u

when you say a buy off frenzy  do you mean sell X shares at X price and its first come first served? if so that sounds like a good idea rather than a auction
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legendary
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July 26, 2014, 02:50:58 PM
when the coin will be distributed?
member
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July 26, 2014, 02:46:35 PM
@koop4u

We love you Kiss
newbie
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July 26, 2014, 02:27:40 PM
YES KOOP

IT SHOULD INCREASE

CLARIFY THIS!! YOU KIND OF DID, BUT DIDN'T SAY WHERE THE EXTRA COINS ARE GOING, JUST SAID NOT GOIN TO YOU??

I actualy did:"And the rest of the coins will be distributed to the community. (The coins won't go in to the dev's pocket)"

But it is in the context and probably didn't notice it!

Clarifying again!

There are currently 1341 stakes(slots) in the member list! The coins aren't going anywhere!

It was decided that each stake per member will contain 500 000 NODES minimum!

The rest can't be calculated at the moment cause we don't have 100% accurate data:
-we don't know how many puppet stakes will be removed
-how many accounts will be added by late members!


We can estimate but that will create more confusion!

The coin number will increase! If that is the answer you are looking for?!

Lets postpone this question after the the puppet removal! Then we will examine all the available data and decide what and where!

@ s11made

I understand what you are saying! But we can't do that for the following reasons:
- The auctioned stakes were determined to be in the Member list, reason is that those members invested for the other expected half of investors. Those giving us the boost to implement the first part of the project.
- The development fund is not that big, and if we were to give a part from that amount to those who participated in the auction it will epuizate the fund !
- It will create a huge fiasco and will loose more time to find out who is who... and so one!

+ At the moment we judge only having the 1341number in mind! Why because some of the members got removed but they still have a chance to get back in the list!

So we are keeping their position secured till the puppet deflagration ends!



The calculations you did above are an estimation, and they are not accurate! Someone will see your post and will take it as a decision! And it will drive more commotion!

Also there were different opinions about the distribution of the coins that are driven from the puppet removal, and one of them was to have an auction before the launch!

So we will consider all the options, but for the time being i'm postponing this matter till 30/07! Until we will have 100% data to figure!

Bu there are 2 things for sure:
1) each stake won't have less than 500 000, we will know the exact increase amount after the puppet removal
2) 60 % or 600 000 000 will be distributed tot the Members!



# Late fee! I see that people have same opinion about the late fee! So this will happen! Deadline for account submission will be the launch date, all those that we'll wake up after the launch will be subjected to the minimum of 20 000 coins!


@mellorbo

Your post is a little late, and i find it a little offensive! Because you are forgetting how many nights and days we devoted to this project, how many hours were put in to communicating, and encouraging the team to go on! If you think that the postponed deadlines were made for the sake of it... then you are mistaking! Those were necessary decisions we had to take to keep going! But i believe that the community sticks with us not because they invested in to the project, but because they are believers, and they know that NODE will make a change!




Respect to the dev team!


Respect, an thank you for the hard and very good work! NODE will be a big thing Wink
member
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July 26, 2014, 01:20:08 PM
YES KOOP

IT SHOULD INCREASE

CLARIFY THIS!! YOU KIND OF DID, BUT DIDN'T SAY WHERE THE EXTRA COINS ARE GOING, JUST SAID NOT GOIN TO YOU??

I actualy did:"And the rest of the coins will be distributed to the community. (The coins won't go in to the dev's pocket)"

But it is in the context and probably didn't notice it!

Clarifying again!

There are currently 1341 stakes(slots) in the member list! The coins aren't going anywhere!

It was decided that each stake per member will contain 500 000 NODES minimum!

The rest can't be calculated at the moment cause we don't have 100% accurate data:
-we don't know how many puppet stakes will be removed
-how many accounts will be added by late members!


We can estimate but that will create more confusion!

The coin number will increase! If that is the answer you are looking for?!

Lets postpone this question after the the puppet removal! Then we will examine all the available data and decide what and where!

@ s11made

I understand what you are saying! But we can't do that for the following reasons:
- The auctioned stakes were determined to be in the Member list, reason is that those members invested for the other expected half of investors. Those giving us the boost to implement the first part of the project.
- The development fund is not that big, and if we were to give a part from that amount to those who participated in the auction it will epuizate the fund !
- It will create a huge fiasco and will loose more time to find out who is who... and so one!

+ At the moment we judge only having the 1341number in mind! Why because some of the members got removed but they still have a chance to get back in the list!

So we are keeping their position secured till the puppet deflagration ends!



The calculations you did above are an estimation, and they are not accurate! Someone will see your post and will take it as a decision! And it will drive more commotion!

Also there were different opinions about the distribution of the coins that are driven from the puppet removal, and one of them was to have an auction before the launch!

So we will consider all the options, but for the time being i'm postponing this matter till 30/07! Until we will have 100% data to figure!

Bu there are 2 things for sure:
1) each stake won't have less than 500 000, we will know the exact increase amount after the puppet removal
2) 60 % or 600 000 000 will be distributed tot the Members!



# Late fee! I see that people have same opinion about the late fee! So this will happen! Deadline for account submission will be the launch date, all those that we'll wake up after the launch will be subjected to the minimum of 20 000 coins!


@mellorbo

Your post is a little late, and i find it a little offensive! Because you are forgetting how many nights and days we devoted to this project, how many hours were put in to communicating, and encouraging the team to go on! If you think that the postponed deadlines were made for the sake of it... then you are mistaking! Those were necessary decisions we had to take to keep going! But i believe that the community sticks with us not because they invested in to the project, but because they are believers, and they know that NODE will make a change!




Respect to the dev team!
sr. member
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July 26, 2014, 12:51:17 PM
@ s11made

- The auctioned stakes were determined to be in the Member list, reason is that those members invested for the other expected half of investors. Those giving us the boost to implement the first part of the project.

I am perfectly okay with those 100 stakes being taken from sock puppets. I wanted to buy some more stakes myself, but unfortunately I was on vacation and couldn't bid when the auction ended.

However the more I think about it, the less I like the idea of another auction.
My reasoning: Someone already paid for those coins. Unless you refund sockpuppets, you actually get money twice for the same coins. ( That's no critics, as you refunded everyone who told you he was a puppet before the removal began! good job here! ) Further, your development costs are covered from now till launch. And since development fund isn't touched before launch, you will have 15% of the market cap for further development.

You are right!

We have all that is necessary to successfully launch and maintain the coin! But the main goal is to go beyond this point and succeed in to integrating a crypto coin with a Payment Processing system! Which is the main difference of Note compared with other coins, around! Part 2 of the project, this is the difference!

About the puppets! We gave them a chance! they didn't take it and they had to face the responsibility! We identified the associated accounts and only left one account from each group! Which at the current stake price covers the initial investment for all created puppets in that particular group! Except the 45 stake puppet master!

Personally i don't like the idea of an auction as it will take a lot of time to manage and execute! I would propose to do something like a Buy-off frenzy! Which will take place very fast! But that is only my opinion - not a decision!
legendary
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
July 26, 2014, 12:15:27 PM
I send test coins


None received. 13757512077699680667
member
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July 26, 2014, 12:11:45 PM
@ s11made

- The auctioned stakes were determined to be in the Member list, reason is that those members invested for the other expected half of investors. Those giving us the boost to implement the first part of the project.

I am perfectly okay with those 100 stakes being taken from sock puppets. I wanted to buy some more stakes myself, but unfortunately I was on vacation and couldn't bid when the auction ended.

However the more I think about it, the less I like the idea of another auction.
My reasoning: Someone already paid for those coins. Unless you refund sockpuppets, you actually get money twice for the same coins. ( That's no critics, as you refunded everyone who told you he was a puppet before the removal began! good job here! ) Further, your development costs are covered from now till launch. And since development fund isn't touched before launch, you will have 15% of the market cap for further development.
hero member
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July 26, 2014, 12:09:21 PM
@ koop4u

just to clarify i was not complaining about the delays/setbacks e.t.c they are understandable and expected

it was in regards to the late fee.
-as you have updated, the late fee will not be in force until the day of launch of the coin,i find this acceptable.
but i did not find it acceptable to penalize people before launch its just something about that did not seem fair to me taking away a % of someones stake before the coin has even launched as in my eyes they are not late.

i do have faith in node and and i am grateful for the time and work you guys have put into it.
that said it doesn't mean i have to agree with the decisions you have made but that's my opinion and maybe some other peoples too i don't know

so that said i apologize and im sorry for any offense caused it was not my intention.
sr. member
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July 26, 2014, 11:45:56 AM
YES KOOP

IT SHOULD INCREASE

CLARIFY THIS!! YOU KIND OF DID, BUT DIDN'T SAY WHERE THE EXTRA COINS ARE GOING, JUST SAID NOT GOIN TO YOU??

I actualy did:"And the rest of the coins will be distributed to the community. (The coins won't go in to the dev's pocket)"

But it is in the context and probably didn't notice it!

Clarifying again!

There are currently 1341 stakes(slots) in the member list! The coins aren't going anywhere!

It was decided that each stake per member will contain 500 000 NODES minimum!

The rest can't be calculated at the moment cause we don't have 100% accurate data:
-we don't know how many puppet stakes will be removed
-how many accounts will be added by late members!


We can estimate but that will create more confusion!

The coin number will increase! If that is the answer you are looking for?!

Lets postpone this question after the the puppet removal! Then we will examine all the available data and decide what and where!

@ s11made

I understand what you are saying! But we can't do that for the following reasons:
- The auctioned stakes were determined to be in the Member list, reason is that those members invested for the other expected half of investors. Those giving us the boost to implement the first part of the project.
- The development fund is not that big, and if we were to give a part from that amount to those who participated in the auction it will epuizate the fund !
- It will create a huge fiasco and will loose more time to find out who is who... and so one!

+ At the moment we judge only having the 1341number in mind! Why because some of the members got removed but they still have a chance to get back in the list!

So we are keeping their position secured till the puppet deflagration ends!



The calculations you did above are an estimation, and they are not accurate! Someone will see your post and will take it as a decision! And it will drive more commotion!

Also there were different opinions about the distribution of the coins that are driven from the puppet removal, and one of them was to have an auction before the launch!

So we will consider all the options, but for the time being i'm postponing this matter till 30/07! Until we will have 100% data to figure!

Bu there are 2 things for sure:
1) each stake won't have less than 500 000, we will know the exact increase amount after the puppet removal
2) 60 % or 600 000 000 will be distributed tot the Members!



# Late fee! I see that people have same opinion about the late fee! So this will happen! Deadline for account submission will be the launch date, all those that we'll wake up after the launch will be subjected to the minimum of 20 000 coins!


@mellorbo

Your post is a little late, and i find it a little offensive! Because you are forgetting how many nights and days we devoted to this project, how many hours were put in to communicating, and encouraging the team to go on! If you think that the postponed deadlines were made for the sake of it... then you are mistaking! Those were necessary decisions we had to take to keep going! But i believe that the community sticks with us not because they invested in to the project, but because they are believers, and they know that NODE will make a change!


sr. member
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day trader mode "on"
July 26, 2014, 11:40:48 AM
Waiting the finish of puppet removal ... People keep calm ...
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July 26, 2014, 11:07:38 AM

we want to give the user a couple of stakes for project assistance, other stakes that user who helped us look for puppets and so on
Do you agree with me that every care should be rewarded? Someone sitting, and someone in the community works
We will make accurate calculations
The remaining coins will be spaced between 1341


It is hard to understand. Maybe it's the best thing if koop handles the communication affaires.
What I understand is that those who helped in puppet removal should be rewarded. I agree!

There aren't 1341 users anymore. Not sure why this number keeps being mentioned ?!
It simply makes no sense to divide the 60% of the coins by 1341 if there are only around 900 users that will get a stake.
If you distribute the remaining stakes (1341-900) equally to all investors, you can juste devide 60% by 900 investors.

Maybe I see your logic.

The following calculation provides no real numbers and is only a try to understand the logic behind the coming coin distribution.

Quote
There were 1341 participants (socks included) in the first place so you "artificially created" those 1341 stakes.
Now You say: well everyone is supposed to get 447427 coins (600m / 1341) no matter how many individual users there will be.
Lets assume in the end we have 900 users.
-So there are 441 remaining stakes (1341 -900).
Now we had a second sale where we sold 100 stakes.
-So there are still 341 remaining stakes.
Now some guys helped you remove the puppets, lets give them 1 stake each (wild guess, no one said they would get one stake)
- so There are still 335 stakes left.
Now those 335 stakes could be distributed among all the users.
- So the remianing 335 stakes (around 150m coins) are equally distributed to the 900 users.
In this example everyone would get around 166.000 more coins.  So we end up with ~613500 coins

If you just divided the 600m coins by 900 everyone would get around 666000 coins. (Which is only around 8.5 % more coins )
full member
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July 26, 2014, 11:04:04 AM

Yes, award those that helped and split the rest to those in the 1341 that are valid. That's VERY FAIR!!


Thank You!!!

In the community there are different opinions about the puppets and the remaining coins
After July 30, we issued a final decision

Has every1 on the list received test funds....i min the 5000 test funds for testing purpose.

i havnt checked. was test funds send to each provided address?


edit: i didnt get any test funds. my account num is next to my name on the stakeholder list number 194. Cool

I send test coins
hero member
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July 26, 2014, 10:51:16 AM
Has every1 on the list received test funds....i min the 5000 test funds for testing purpose.
sr. member
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July 26, 2014, 10:48:58 AM

if the community have had to sit through delays and setbacks time after time why cant you be a little lenient in regards to this matter? give this poor man his full stake 100%
As he says he is not a puppet and has invested in you. its pretty scammy of you to give him 4% of a coin you have not launched yet.
its all well and good saying this date was set, that date was set but how many times have you changed the E.T.A of launch for one reason or another?
personally i believe that NOBODY should be penalized until at least AFTER the coin has launched.
who else agrees ?

His issue has been resolved

I dont understand, don't they go to the rest of the stakeholders that are valid in the 1341 number?

Valid.

we want to give the user a couple of stakes for project assistance, other stakes that user who helped us look for puppets and so on
Do you agree with me that every care should be rewarded? Someone sitting, and someone in the community works
We will make accurate calculations
The remaining coins will be spaced between in 1341


Yes, award those that helped and split the rest to those in the 1341 that are valid. That's VERY FAIR!!


Thank You!!!
sr. member
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July 26, 2014, 10:46:31 AM
how do i check if i provided an account ID? im pretty sure i have but cant be certain of it. thanks

check the membership list (stakeholder list) link on the first page. It will have your account number on there if you have one
full member
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July 26, 2014, 10:46:04 AM

if the community have had to sit through delays and setbacks time after time why cant you be a little lenient in regards to this matter? give this poor man his full stake 100%
As he says he is not a puppet and has invested in you. its pretty scammy of you to give him 4% of a coin you have not launched yet.
its all well and good saying this date was set, that date was set but how many times have you changed the E.T.A of launch for one reason or another?
personally i believe that NOBODY should be penalized until at least AFTER the coin has launched.
who else agrees ?

+1
His issue has been resolved

I dont understand, don't they go to the rest of the stakeholders that are valid in the 1341 number?

Valid.

we want to give the user a couple of stakes for project assistance, other stakes that user who helped us look for puppets and so on
Do you agree with me that every care should be rewarded? Someone sitting, and someone in the community works
We will make accurate calculations
The remaining coins will be spaced between 1341
hero member
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Merit: 500
July 26, 2014, 10:35:45 AM
i believe in @ lightformerkel

in my opinion .. give 100 % of him stake ...

1 vote + ...
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+1

+1

if the community have had to sit through delays and setbacks time after time why cant you be a little lenient in regards to this matter? give this poor man his full stake 100%
As he says he is not a puppet and has invested in you. its pretty scammy of you to give him 4% of a coin you have not launched yet.
its all well and good saying this date was set, that date was set but how many times have you changed the E.T.A of launch for one reason or another?
personally i believe that NOBODY should be penalized until at least AFTER the coin has launched.
who else agrees ?
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