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kalisto

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Quote from: mirador17 on June 11, 2014, 03:16:02 AM

Quote from: dzarmush on June 11, 2014, 03:06:10 AM

I don't understand why this even is being discussed.

Auction closed at 22:55:00, the last bid was made at 22:54:59.

Period.

100% agree. Bids after closing (22:55:00) are not valid.

+1

these buys after closing time smell like a coordinated buy from insiders.

dzarmush

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Quote from: bitwhizz on June 11, 2014, 03:18:50 AM

I don't agree in abandoning my stake. I genuinely was using the provided countdown as instructed
Furthermore the disputers bided aswell in extra time, if they had won, they would be singing a different tune

Well, the countdown is still on 22:50 on my lapton. Can I make a bid?

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Quote from: bitwhizz on June 11, 2014, 03:18:50 AM

I don't agree in abandoning my stake. I genuinely was using the provided countdown as instructed
Furthermore the disputers bided aswell in extra time, if they had won, they would be singing a different tune

You know that argument works both ways, right? You don't agree because it's not in your interest. If it would be you would agree. (You can deny this, but so is anyone who is on the opposite side. You can't prove motive.)

This is pointless. Lets make a decision that is the best for the most amount of people, and move on.

dzarmush

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Quote from: mirador17 on June 11, 2014, 03:16:02 AM

Quote from: dzarmush on June 11, 2014, 03:06:10 AM

I don't understand why this even is being discussed.

Auction closed at 22:55:00, the last bid was made at 22:54:59.

Period.

100% agree. Bids after closing (22:55:00) are not valid.

I don't understand what are all that debates about. It's like school girls bought the same dresses and arguing who should wear different dress for a party. There are grown men here took part in the auction with certain rules. One can't just say fuck the rules. Especially orginizers. They lose trust everytime they do something because they set rules and then just decide not following them.

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I don't agree in abandoning my stake. I genuinely was using the provided countdown as instructed
Furthermore the disputers bided aswell in extra time, if they had won, they would be singing a different tune

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It's not like I have a stake in this, but here is my opinion:
Honor the original deadline, and winners. They should get their stakes.
And those who won lots after deadline, but not before, offer them a chance to buy a lot at the price they bid and won.
win-win.

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Quote from: dzarmush on June 11, 2014, 03:06:10 AM

I don't understand why this even is being discussed.

Auction closed at 22:55:00, the last bid was made at 22:54:59.

Period.

100% agree. Bids after closing (22:55:00) are not valid.

dzarmush

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Someone was bidding after the auction was closed, so what? Why would anyone should take their opinion into consideration? Of course they want stakes, but they were bidding AFTER is was over.

And it's not an IPO when a couple of hundreds investors would just receive a slightly less amount of money because a couple of people invested a bit later. It's an auction for god's sake. There are just few people. Everyone should obey the rules. Otherwise all of it just doesn't make any sense.

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I don't understand why this even is being discussed.

Auction closed at 22:55:00, the last bid was made at 22:54:59.

Period.

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Quote from: SillkRoad on June 10, 2014, 11:58:46 PM

Quote from: dzarmush on June 10, 2014, 10:03:57 PM

I see dirty play by devs again. First they stated that the auction closes at 22:55:00 and now they accept bids made after this time because they get more money. How about me making a bid now? 3 BTC for a lot number 6. Will they accept it also because they get even more money?

1) We have announced that we need 3,5 btc (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=590421.580)
2) Transactions will be through Escrow
3) DynhoSts, Starfleet.Intelligence played after 22.55 if they Won this conversation would not be here. If they did not set bids after 22.55, I would have understood their honesty, as they played they need to consider the views of all players after 22,55 (bitwhizz, signingoff, Vega, Secondleo) if they agree to annul their bids we will return to the position 161 . Repeat again if they do not play after 22.55 we would have nullified the latest bids.

6/9/2014 22:55:36 Starfleet.Intelligence
6/9/2014 22:55:44 signingoff
6/9/2014 22:55:51 Secondleo
6/9/2014 22:55:55 DynhoSts

4) We have proposed a community to find a solution, there is one opinion in the community that would-buy stake on the last price, such as the last bid DynhoSts 5 stake 0.621, he buys it at a price Vega (0,65). This option is available only if all bidders agree to this decision

Thanks for understanding and for my bad English

Well, Ive looked at the sheet again and If we count until the ending of the bids I go away empty handed.

If we go until bid #161 I think I got lot #6 with a 15-Stake. So what would I pledge for?

For me it was officially announced the auction end until the timer ends. This was stated by devs also in the later posts. I saw bidding continue and so I kept also going knewing I would loose my winning bids... EVERYBODY saw this and kept going bidding. So its also clear all the winners would cry if their bid wouldnt have counted...

Of course I pledge for reset to 161!

BUT: Like everything this is decision of the devs, and also community. Im fine with a community decision also knowing I probably wont benefit from investing in NODE.

Since I had this winning bid (according to my rules) 6/9/2014 22:54:41 Starfleet.Intelligence Lot # 6 - 15 stakes 1.52,

Devs, can you give "us" a special buy options according to our bids that would have counted? Then I think everybody would be satisfied.

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Quote from: SillkRoad on June 11, 2014, 01:00:59 AM

Quote from: DynhoSts on June 11, 2014, 12:51:38 AM

Who won will not want to miss that .. useless vote

You can argue endlessly, the fact that there are more losers than winners
So I think that to say about that Secondleo, Tirapon, bitwhizz, signingoff

Quote from: ownerbest on June 11, 2014, 12:56:18 AM

Can I see the NXTL launch in the rest of my life?

During the week we'll make an announcement

Funny still have to see the dev making fun of my face

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Quote from: DynhoSts on June 11, 2014, 12:51:38 AM

Who won will not want to miss that .. useless vote

You can argue endlessly, the fact that there are more losers than winners
So I think that to say about that Secondleo, Tirapon, bitwhizz, signingoff

Quote from: ownerbest on June 11, 2014, 12:56:18 AM

Can I see the NXTL launch in the rest of my life?

During the week we'll make an announcement

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Can I see the NXTL launch in the rest of my life?

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Who won will not want to miss that .. useless vote

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Quote from: Vega on June 11, 2014, 12:42:20 AM

One more post and I'm done, promise.

There are three scenarios currently.

1. Results stand with overtime
- People who would've won without it, or payed less are angry

2. Overtime bids canceled
- People who's bids are get canceled and lose, are angry. Devs get less btc.

3. Do as I suggested
- Everyone gets what they want, the overtime bidders, the regular bidders, the devs get more money. The only negative I can see is devs have to give up a few more stakes, and that would be minimal loss.

Need to get a response from Secondleo, Tirapon, bitwhizz, signingoff depends on them your decision

Let vote for one of the items

Currently
1) ...
2) Vega
3) ...

Vega

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One more post and I'm done, promise.

There are three scenarios currently.

1. Results stand with overtime
- People who would've won without it, or payed less are angry

2. Overtime bids canceled
- People who's bids are get canceled and lose, are angry. Devs get less btc.

3. Do as I suggested
- Everyone gets what they want, the overtime bidders, the regular bidders, the devs get more money. The only negative I can see is devs have to give up a few more stakes, and that would be minimal loss.

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Quote from: Vega on June 11, 2014, 12:34:57 AM

I'm good with going back to 161. I'm good with going with my solution. I'm less good with the result standing as it is, but I'll accept it.

Well, a bold decision. Your vote counted

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I'm good with going back to 161. I'm good with going with my solution. I'm less good with the result standing as it is, but I'll accept it.

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Quote from: SillkRoad on June 10, 2014, 11:58:46 PM

3) DynhoSts, Starfleet.Intelligence played after 22.55 if they Won this conversation would not be here. If they did not set bids after 22.55, I would have understood their honesty, as they played they need to consider the views of all players after 22,55 (bitwhizz, signingoff, Vega, Secondleo) if they agree to annul their bids we will return to the position 161 . Repeat again if they do not play after 22.55 we would have nullified the latest bids.

The truth is, when you are ahead, the smart play is to continue bidding if an auction runs into overtime, because this provides the best return.

If you bid overtime:
1. Overtime bids are canceled, you win.
2. Overtime bids stand, you win. (But pay more.)

If you don't bid:
1. Overtimb bids are canceled, you win
2. OVertime bids stand, you lose.

The first scenario makes more sence strategically.

But anyway. I made my opinion clear about this, and provided a possible solution.
Now someone needs to decide what will it be.

It's not gonna chance my life ether way, so I'm done talking about it. Especially that it doesn't look like anyone cares in the community expect the bidders and the devs.

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not 4 people who have decided this is the future of the entire community bitcointalk Wink

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