Topic: [Closed]Avalon Chips - 0.081 BTC (Global+Escrow)-BATCH2 SECURED - page 20. (Read 100380 times)

no refund

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good point, I've paid 320 chips + assembly, If someone interested, I'm willing to sell those all, same price I paid 25.92 + 17 = 42.92 btc

You mean selling them right? Nah it is not a logical move i am waiting for my miner Keep us updated mate thanks!

Website orders qualify for batch 2 since there was still no website in May.. However, you can be refunded by someone else. Lots of people still interested

So no refunds for batch 2?

And one more question i am not in neither of batchs i ordered from your website. Is there any chance to refund mine or not? thanks

Let me clarify that by asking a refund, all the costs of the chips in batch 1 will be fully refunded...

For me the time does not matter for the decision, the amount refundable however does. If close to all refunded I'm voting for refund, if close to nothing for the hosting option. If in the middle i have no idea

Yes

If we want you to host our device our shipping cost will be refunded?

It is possible, but not at this moment.

I feel like it's worth to put things in perspective considering some of the replies I've read.

The option of 'having miners ASAP' is not realistic, otherwise I guess everyone in this group would want exactly that. We are in the situation where ASAP has no definite date, and that's why we are voting.

In short, the options are (someone correct me if I'm wrong):

1) Wait an undetermined number of days until the chips are shipped. Apparently no one knows how many. Maybe Avalon, but they're not sharing that info with us. Or maybe not even them. It could be days, it could be weeks, maybe even over a month. I would suggest to make your risk assessments and ROI calculations, with the increasing difficulty taking all those factors in mind and the optimistic/avg/pessimistic estimations before deciding.

2) Ask for a refund, a rare occurrence in the world of Bitcoin investments. Considering Avalon is nice enough to offer the chance for refund, I think it's wise to consider it. Getting a refund does not necessarily take us out of the mining picture, we could reinvest these funds into real on-stock miners from other companies, or Avalon itself when they have the new generation ones. Even buy them directly from Steve when he gets them in stock and starts his shares model.

All in all, I am obviously in the group that prefers a refund, but I've tried to explain the situation from a neutral point of view. In my opinion these are the 2 situations and that's how you should decide the refund for Batch 1, not based on non-realistic desires.

Regards.

My vote depends a lot on if its possible to get a partial refund on the boards ordered or not, and if possible how much. Sorry if it has already been mentioned, but i cant find it anywhere.

Voting form created in Google Docs. PM sent to every batch 1 customer. This way i can weight the votes against chips owned.

Regards to all....

Yes, indeed. The total BTC spent will give shares of the same value. The rest (if there's any) will be refunded to the user.

BTW, i would also like the idea to convert the whole batch1 funds to shares and buy Cointerra machines.. They would cost 10 times less than Avalon chips + board manufacturing... But let's go for the voting for now. See what happens later.

I vote for miner + hosting option

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Take a look here and vote for refund:
http://bitcoindifficulty.com/

No refund.

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Actually.. I'm going to stop the voting option using the poll. I just don't consider the forum tools good enough to fit the purpose. Please4 take the time and vote again, i will create a google docs voting form and share the link..
Sorry for the double work, but it's just what it is..

I also vote for refund
My order:

Do we need to vote publicity or is PM vote OK?