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Quote from: Biffa on May 09, 2014, 05:08:45 AM

Roadstress you have yours at home in Bonnie Scotland right?

Can you do a video of it with audio on? I'd like to see what it sounds like in a non-datacenter environment before I make any decisions on purchasing

Cheers.

I'm not from Scotland. raskul is

Well I have my miners in a remote location and it's a bit hard for me to do a short movie, but I remember there was a movie from someone I just don't recall who or where is it. I will dig for it and post it when I find it.

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Roadstress you have yours at home in Bonnie Scotland right?

Can you do a video of it with audio on? I'd like to see what it sounds like in a non-datacenter environment before I make any decisions on purchasing

Cheers.

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Quote from: hardhouseinc on May 08, 2014, 08:17:26 PM

Is the final hashrate at TURBO mode??

Depends on the room temperature of your miner.

Quote from: whonesta on May 08, 2014, 08:19:43 PM

Oh I see it, in their media as well. Just confusing that they list PSU @ 1050W (up to 1200W to boost performance), yet there are stats of 1.4TH/s @ 1340W, did you upgrade PSU? Did S-T upgrade unit to 1200W PSU before shipping?
Does the $3200 - GB ship with PSU capable of reaching 1.4TH?

1.4TH/s is the normal mode

And yes the PSU is very capable of reaching 1.4TH and 1.5TH. I stressed over this too around 20 March when SP-Tech made their announcement on the forum. After a lot of questions and after dogie's review now I'm the happy owner of a SP10.

Captured this right now in a warm room:

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Psu has considerable safety margins built in, so it can run at around 15-20% more power than stated.

The limiting factor for this design is the cooling capacity, at 20°C and below you will reach 1,5 TH.

If you can cool your unit with 3°C air at high airflow, or with immersion you could get the maximum out of it but it is really not worth the effort.

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Quote from: RoadStress on May 08, 2014, 07:46:55 PM

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Quote from: DevonMiner on May 08, 2014, 04:19:02 PM

I have ordered both SP10s and later SP30s from the previous GB, but I'm not convinced that this GB price is a winner ... doesn't seem quite like the GB deal you would be looking for, taking ROI calculations etc. into consideration. Yes, SP kit is superior in its built quality, but the bottom line is profit out of mining, so looks and continued reliability can easily be ignored by many when looking at the bottom line. A combined hosting GB sounds an interesting idea as previously mentioned, as would a lower price for the GB SP10.

Good point. I don't want good build quality. I want shit build quality. After 6 - 12 months, this thing is going to the same place as my KnC shit - to the bottom of the ocean. Why do I care if the built quality is high? If this thing is serviceable in 2 years, that is a damn waste.

Build quality comes into play when OC'ing. The S2 is stuck @ 1.1, FrakenJups @2.6-2.8??(I do not run one(3)). IF SP10's PSU can be upgraded to 1500W that quality could lead to 6-700 GH/s OC'in..

this gear can do 2 th over clocked with a 1500 watt psu? so let us say you are correct . what does the custom psu cost?

Hell I can not even figure out how people are getting 1.4+TH/s from the DS1050 it ships with. 1500W PSU in case size does not exist.. yet
there are 1200W replacements out there.

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Oh I see it, in their media as well. Just confusing that they list PSU @ 1050W (up to 1200W to boost performance), yet there are stats of 1.4TH/s @ 1340W, did you upgrade PSU? Did S-T upgrade unit to 1200W PSU before shipping?
Does the $3200 - GB ship with PSU capable of reaching 1.4TH?

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Quote from: RoadStress on May 08, 2014, 07:46:55 PM

Quote from: whonesta on May 08, 2014, 07:12:21 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on May 08, 2014, 06:49:06 PM

Quote from: whonesta on May 08, 2014, 05:30:12 PM

Quote from: mikewirth on May 08, 2014, 04:37:18 PM

Quote from: DevonMiner on May 08, 2014, 04:19:02 PM

I have ordered both SP10s and later SP30s from the previous GB, but I'm not convinced that this GB price is a winner ... doesn't seem quite like the GB deal you would be looking for, taking ROI calculations etc. into consideration. Yes, SP kit is superior in its built quality, but the bottom line is profit out of mining, so looks and continued reliability can easily be ignored by many when looking at the bottom line. A combined hosting GB sounds an interesting idea as previously mentioned, as would a lower price for the GB SP10.

Good point. I don't want good build quality. I want shit build quality. After 6 - 12 months, this thing is going to the same place as my KnC shit - to the bottom of the ocean. Why do I care if the built quality is high? If this thing is serviceable in 2 years, that is a damn waste.

Build quality comes into play when OC'ing. The S2 is stuck @ 1.1, FrakenJups @2.6-2.8??(I do not run one(3)). IF SP10's PSU can be upgraded to 1500W that quality could lead to 6-700 GH/s OC'in..

this gear can do 2 th over clocked with a 1500 watt psu? so let us say you are correct . what does the custom psu cost?

Hell I can not even figure out how people are getting 1.4+TH/s from the DS1050 it ships with. 1500W PSU in case size does not exist.. yet
there are 1200W replacements out there.

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Nice.....

Is the final hashrate at TURBO mode??

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Quote from: whonesta on May 08, 2014, 07:12:21 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on May 08, 2014, 06:49:06 PM

Quote from: whonesta on May 08, 2014, 05:30:12 PM

Quote from: mikewirth on May 08, 2014, 04:37:18 PM

Quote from: DevonMiner on May 08, 2014, 04:19:02 PM

I have ordered both SP10s and later SP30s from the previous GB, but I'm not convinced that this GB price is a winner ... doesn't seem quite like the GB deal you would be looking for, taking ROI calculations etc. into consideration. Yes, SP kit is superior in its built quality, but the bottom line is profit out of mining, so looks and continued reliability can easily be ignored by many when looking at the bottom line. A combined hosting GB sounds an interesting idea as previously mentioned, as would a lower price for the GB SP10.

Good point. I don't want good build quality. I want shit build quality. After 6 - 12 months, this thing is going to the same place as my KnC shit - to the bottom of the ocean. Why do I care if the built quality is high? If this thing is serviceable in 2 years, that is a damn waste.

Build quality comes into play when OC'ing. The S2 is stuck @ 1.1, FrakenJups @2.6-2.8??(I do not run one(3)). IF SP10's PSU can be upgraded to 1500W that quality could lead to 6-700 GH/s OC'in..

this gear can do 2 th over clocked with a 1500 watt psu? so let us say you are correct . what does the custom psu cost?

Hell I can not even figure out how people are getting 1.4+TH/s from the DS1050 it ships with. 1500W PSU in case size does not exist.. yet
there are 1200W replacements out there.

Picture made 1 minute ago:

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Quote from: philipma1957 on May 08, 2014, 06:49:06 PM

Quote from: whonesta on May 08, 2014, 05:30:12 PM

Quote from: mikewirth on May 08, 2014, 04:37:18 PM

Quote from: DevonMiner on May 08, 2014, 04:19:02 PM

I have ordered both SP10s and later SP30s from the previous GB, but I'm not convinced that this GB price is a winner ... doesn't seem quite like the GB deal you would be looking for, taking ROI calculations etc. into consideration. Yes, SP kit is superior in its built quality, but the bottom line is profit out of mining, so looks and continued reliability can easily be ignored by many when looking at the bottom line. A combined hosting GB sounds an interesting idea as previously mentioned, as would a lower price for the GB SP10.

Good point. I don't want good build quality. I want shit build quality. After 6 - 12 months, this thing is going to the same place as my KnC shit - to the bottom of the ocean. Why do I care if the built quality is high? If this thing is serviceable in 2 years, that is a damn waste.

Build quality comes into play when OC'ing. The S2 is stuck @ 1.1, FrakenJups @2.6-2.8??(I do not run one(3)). IF SP10's PSU can be upgraded to 1500W that quality could lead to 6-700 GH/s OC'in..

this gear can do 2 th over clocked with a 1500 watt psu? so let us say you are correct . what does the custom psu cost?

Hell I can not even figure out how people are getting 1.4+TH/s from the DS1050 it ships with. 1500W PSU in case size does not exist.. yet
there are 1200W replacements out there.

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Quote from: whonesta on May 08, 2014, 05:30:12 PM

Quote from: mikewirth on May 08, 2014, 04:37:18 PM

Quote from: DevonMiner on May 08, 2014, 04:19:02 PM

I have ordered both SP10s and later SP30s from the previous GB, but I'm not convinced that this GB price is a winner ... doesn't seem quite like the GB deal you would be looking for, taking ROI calculations etc. into consideration. Yes, SP kit is superior in its built quality, but the bottom line is profit out of mining, so looks and continued reliability can easily be ignored by many when looking at the bottom line. A combined hosting GB sounds an interesting idea as previously mentioned, as would a lower price for the GB SP10.

Good point. I don't want good build quality. I want shit build quality. After 6 - 12 months, this thing is going to the same place as my KnC shit - to the bottom of the ocean. Why do I care if the built quality is high? If this thing is serviceable in 2 years, that is a damn waste.

Build quality comes into play when OC'ing. The S2 is stuck @ 1.1, FrakenJups @2.6-2.8??(I do not run one(3)). IF SP10's PSU can be upgraded to 1500W that quality could lead to 6-700 GH/s OC'in..

this gear can do 2 th over clocked with a 1500 watt psu? so let us say you are correct . what does the custom psu cost?

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Quote from: mikewirth on May 08, 2014, 04:37:18 PM

Quote from: DevonMiner on May 08, 2014, 04:19:02 PM

I have ordered both SP10s and later SP30s from the previous GB, but I'm not convinced that this GB price is a winner ... doesn't seem quite like the GB deal you would be looking for, taking ROI calculations etc. into consideration. Yes, SP kit is superior in its built quality, but the bottom line is profit out of mining, so looks and continued reliability can easily be ignored by many when looking at the bottom line. A combined hosting GB sounds an interesting idea as previously mentioned, as would a lower price for the GB SP10.

Good point. I don't want good build quality. I want shit build quality. After 6 - 12 months, this thing is going to the same place as my KnC shit - to the bottom of the ocean. Why do I care if the built quality is high? If this thing is serviceable in 2 years, that is a damn waste.

Build quality comes into play when OC'ing. The S2 is stuck @ 1.1, FrakenJups @2.6-2.8??(I do not run one(3)). IF SP10's PSU can be upgraded to 1500W that quality could lead to 6-700 GH/s OC'in..

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Quote from: mikewirth on May 08, 2014, 04:37:18 PM

.....this thing is going to the same place as my KnC shit - to the bottom of the ocean....

What of your KNC are you referring to?

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Quote from: DevonMiner on May 08, 2014, 04:19:02 PM

I have ordered both SP10s and later SP30s from the previous GB, but I'm not convinced that this GB price is a winner ... doesn't seem quite like the GB deal you would be looking for, taking ROI calculations etc. into consideration. Yes, SP kit is superior in its built quality, but the bottom line is profit out of mining, so looks and continued reliability can easily be ignored by many when looking at the bottom line. A combined hosting GB sounds an interesting idea as previously mentioned, as would a lower price for the GB SP10.

Good point. I don't want good build quality. I want shit build quality. After 6 - 12 months, this thing is going to the same place as my KnC shit - to the bottom of the ocean. Why do I care if the built quality is high? If this thing is serviceable in 2 years, that is a damn waste.

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I have ordered both SP10s and later SP30s from the previous GB, but I'm not convinced that this GB price is a winner ... doesn't seem quite like the GB deal you would be looking for, taking ROI calculations etc. into consideration. Yes, SP kit is superior in its built quality, but the bottom line is profit out of mining, so looks and continued reliability can easily be ignored by many when looking at the bottom line. A combined hosting GB sounds an interesting idea as previously mentioned, as would a lower price for the GB SP10.

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Road - 8,5 BTC is rough estimate with import duty. Should have mentioned that Undecided

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While you're at it do a group buy on hosting package too....

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Quote from: gallery2000 on May 08, 2014, 02:14:54 PM

Well, I am not buying anymore.

I wrote this on Mr. Lee's post:

Quote from: gallery2000 on May 07, 2014, 08:51:26 PM

I buy those 4 miners from you for $8000. You make a $500 profit right now.

Well, 4 miners that make 6.4 TH/s for $8000 is a good deal. I have nothing against buying miners that makes economical sense. I have something against buying miners that you might not get your ROI.

I know you want the factory to lower the price too. This will make everybody happy.

Dude you brought just one week ago when we had the same exchange rate! Your argument is invalidated by your own actions. And good luck with lousy Cointerra miners. Let's see how well they perform and how long will they last.

Edit: I am not so familiar with the Group Buy forum, but I will spend time somewhere in the future to check if all Group Buy threads are full of people who complain. I am sure that this is an exception and nobody came with this arguments on other Group Buys. I don't understand why this is so special and why does it attract all the pessimist people.

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Quote from: gallery2000 on May 08, 2014, 02:07:04 PM

1.4 TH will give you $38 dollars a day in bitcoin. So pretend you have a miner of 1.4TH. Each day you buy $38 of bitcoin . Instead of buying a miner for $3200, you can use that money to buy bitcoins at $38 a day for 84 days.

And after 84 days what are you doing?

Quote from: 9feet on May 08, 2014, 02:08:23 PM

What a fail....
Maybe you assume people get their miner paid by an angel.
Or You assume maintaining miner wont cost you time and money which wont come up if you buy btc directly.
If btc tanks both the miner and btc holder both loss value.
The best option is spend money elsewhere...

It's a gamble thats really what it is.

Let me put it this way - assume 10 bil diff and 300$ exchange rate:
- Buying BTC: $3200/450=7.11 BTC (No idea how did SVK come up with 8.5BTC) 7.11*300$=$2133 which equals to a loss of $1066 if you exchange all BTC. For every BTC bought at $450 you lose $150 if you exchange it back at $300;
- Buying SP10: invest $3200 (or 7.11 BTC), BUT you are making ~$500 per month after electricity cost and (at 0.15$/kWh) so while you are losing $150 for every BTC that you exchange I can cash out $500 and spend it like I wish. And if you think the difficulty will continue to rise exponentially at an exchange rate of $300 then you are just simply wrong.

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Quote from: RoadStress on May 08, 2014, 10:01:25 AM

Quote from: gallery2000 on May 08, 2014, 08:44:38 AM

Guys, we should all hold off our hardware buying so the asic manufacturers can go into distress and start knocking off prices. At the current price, we are buying hardwares to support them. You are not buying to make a profit. If that is your goal then go ahead.

It was a mistake to not create a self-moderated topic, but I thought we passed this kind of discussions and i hoped that only questions and issues regarding this GB will be here.

I see that you are happily buying other miners, but somehow you have a problem with this GB:

Quote from: gallery2000 on April 30, 2014, 09:59:01 AM

I bought an s2 recently. I did not get a coupon. How do you access to the coupon?

Quote from: gallery2000 on May 07, 2014, 11:14:16 PM

Bittech is not being honest. He said he will ship my miners tomorrow, but it took him ten days. YOU CAN NOT DO THIS IN THIS BUSINESS.

I will definitely be more careful next time, but please keep your opinions to yourself and don't by a hypocrite here. I don't want to argue about this so let's call it even.

Edit: And no I will never donate to lazy thermos who can't have a proper forum software.

Well, I am not buying anymore.

I wrote this on Mr. Lee's post:

Quote from: gallery2000 on May 07, 2014, 08:51:26 PM

I buy those 4 miners from you for $8000. You make a $500 profit right now.

Well, 4 miners that make 6.4 TH/s for $8000 is a good deal. I have nothing against buying miners that makes economical sense. I have something against buying miners that you might not get your ROI.

I know you want the factory to lower the price too. This will make everybody happy.

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Quote from: RoadStress on May 08, 2014, 01:18:02 PM

Quote from: Profetu on May 08, 2014, 12:36:41 PM

Anyways good luck with the sale and sorry for offtopics although I feel than profitability should be addressed. I am confident that at some point I will own a Spondoolies miner.

Thank you.

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Quote from: RoadStress on May 08, 2014, 12:02:41 PM

If you are holding to your 8.5 BTC and the exchange goes to $300 who do you think will suffer more? Me with the miner or you with the 8.5 BTC?

I fail to see your logic, both of you spend the same amount in the beginning. Either fiat or btc, it was all the same.
If btc tanks to 300$ i don't know who would feel better someone with a big balance and nothing else, or someone with lower balance and a pretty gear worth nothing.
The only way the gear owner won't suffer is if he has a crystal ball and his crystal ball says his gear will be in bitcoin museum in 2050 and worth 100 bar of pure gold.

If BTC tanks to 300$ I will still earn and I will still be able to spend money monthly with my SP10, while you holding just 8.5 BTC are stuck with them until the exchange rate climbs back up OR you will change the BTC at a loss. That's my logic.

What a fail....
Maybe you assume people get their miner paid by an angel.
Or You assume maintaining miner wont cost you time and money which wont come up if you buy btc directly.
If btc tanks both the miner and btc holder both loss value.
The best option is spend money elsewhere...

It's a gamble thats really what it is.

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Quote from: RoadStress on May 08, 2014, 10:18:26 AM

Quote from: SVK on May 08, 2014, 10:00:11 AM

Quote from: gallery2000 on May 08, 2014, 08:44:38 AM

Guys, we should all hold off our hardware buying so the asic manufacturers can go into distress and start knocking off prices. At the current price, we are buying hardwares to support them. You are not buying to make a profit. If that is your goal then go ahead.

I can't find a single one miner which will return investment Sad

I'm not talking about profit just would like to earn back BTC I have spend on mining equipment.

This was addressed too in my first GB. Feel free to buy and hold BTC if that works out for you. For me and for others holding to BTC might seem a bit hard and everyone is tempted to either try day trading or can't stand the fact that the exchange isn't moving or if it's moving down and they might sell at a loss. There is always the problem of when will you exchange your BTCs. Maybe the exchange goes to $1k and you are happy with your profit and then in 2 months it goes to $5k. You will not be so happy then if you exchanged your BTCs for a profit at $1k. Or the exchange might be at 450$ for 6 months and you just have money stuck, while miners have money moving.

Also don't forget that the SP10 is profitable even at 45 bil difficulty. Last year everyone was throwing money when the exchange rate was high without any planning in case something goes wrong. Now it seems that everyone is taking EXTRA measures when it comes small amounts of BTC. Nobody was thinking of any BTC return when they spent 55 BTC for a BabyJet or when they spend millions buying from CoinTerra or the other manufacturers.

1.4 TH will give you $38 dollars a day in bitcoin. So pretend you have a miner of 1.4TH. Each day you buy $38 of bitcoin . Instead of buying a miner for $3200, you can use that money to buy bitcoins at $38 a day for 84 days.

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