is there an UP-TO-DATE list for NOV-DEC 2017 ?
Yeah, I'd like to see an up-to-date list as well. 
Topic: ▁ ▂ ▄ ▅ ▆ Cloudmining 101 (ponzi risk assessment) ▆ ▅ ▄ ▂ ▁ - page 3. (Read 361551 times)
December 09, 2017, 11:33:57 AM
is there an UP-TO-DATE list for NOV-DEC 2017 ?
With all the noise around the bitcoin for the last month, there is a multiplication of so-called "opportunuties" ofter with referal-style MLM or not.
What to think about www.inviaworld.com ?
or seen yesterday on Facebook sponsored add a future ICO postponed from Dec1st to Dec 15th 2017: www.envion.org so called scalable mobile mining (in containers)
With all the noise around the bitcoin for the last month, there is a multiplication of so-called "opportunuties" ofter with referal-style MLM or not.
What to think about www.inviaworld.com ?
or seen yesterday on Facebook sponsored add a future ICO postponed from Dec1st to Dec 15th 2017: www.envion.org so called scalable mobile mining (in containers)
some people recommended genesis mining independently from each other another one likes hashflare better because he said they also have operations in Europe and they have some option for cashout anytime.
It's near impossible nowadays to reach ROI with genesis mining, and hashflare is no better since they recently made the switch to change their lifetime contracts to yearly contracts...
some people recommended genesis mining independently from each other another one likes hashflare better because he said they also have operations in Europe and they have some option for cashout anytime.
It's near impossible nowadays to reach ROI with genesis mining, and hashflare is no better since they recently made the switch to change their lifetime contracts to yearly contracts...
some people recommended genesis mining independently from each other another one likes hashflare better because he said they also have operations in Europe and they have some option for cashout anytime.
Thank you good topic. Having studied all the topics, I concluded that my investments in cloud mining are erroneous. I invested in hashflare and eobot.
September 26, 2017, 01:23:00 AM
I'm still with hashflare and they are still paying though they change the contract from lifetime to one year . Is that a good sign that they are legit ?
What about microhash.net?
I received Payout yesterday
I received Payout yesterday
Thanks for starting this thread. In retrospect, it's obvious that cloud mining has to be a scam, but I needed to hear someone point it out.
Bla Bla Bla Bla...
That part were the only words that made sense.
Not every cloud mining is ponzi, only (almost) every cloud mining (legit or not) is a bad investment.
I don't think cloud mining is a bad investment. If you had invested in Ether/LTC mining before the recent price rise, your previously mined coins would suddenly be worth lots more leading to a good ROI on the cheap mining plans, when the coin prices were low.
I can still remember last year when I get back online and get introduced into many opportunities on cryptocurrency there was one very popular cloud mining company called HashOcean which later on became a big scam. After that, other so-called mining programs also closed leaving many investors holding large empty bags.
We should really careful with what we are dealing online especially if it is involving the money we earned so hard. The feeling of being scammed is something beyond description and it is an insult to our intelligence. It is often said that we have to do our due diligence and to think many times before opening our wallet whether online or offline.
It has been 1 year since the ponzi assessment table last published
Bla Bla Bla Bla...
That part were the only words that made sense.
Not every cloud mining is ponzi, only (almost) every cloud mining (legit or not) is a bad investment.
I don't think cloud mining is a bad investment. If you had invested in Ether/LTC mining before the recent price rise, your previously mined coins would suddenly be worth lots more leading to a good ROI on the cheap mining plans, when the coin prices were low.
Anyone here have any experiences with Eligiusmining.com....issues pulling coin! 
Bla Bla Bla Bla...
That part were the only words that made sense.
Not every cloud mining is ponzi, only (almost) every cloud mining (legit or not) is a bad investment.
I don't think cloud mining is a bad investment. If you had invested in Ether/LTC mining before the recent price rise, your previously mined coins would suddenly be worth lots more leading to a good ROI on the cheap mining plans, when the coin prices were low.
im not trust any cloudmining, we can build our mining rig just with 1BTC
why invest our money at cloudmining if we can mining it with our real hashrate ?
why invest our money at cloudmining if we can mining it with our real hashrate ?
Simple: Because from a financial point of speaking, the electricity costs and the write-off of your equipment for example. In some countries mining is profitable, whilst in others mining profits are (very) thin or even unprofitable.
Not every cloud mining is ponzi, only (almost) every cloud mining (legit or not) is a bad investment.
Agree.
I like HashNest, but it's rather unpredictable and a bit of a gamble to make some profits, but certainly not impossible.
I like HashFlare as well, but I'm a bit more cautious with them; to many red flags for me to wager large(r) sums with them, so I'm building this one up more slowly.
Bla Bla Bla Bla...
That part were the only words that made sense.
Not every cloud mining is ponzi, only (almost) every cloud mining (legit or not) is a bad investment.
What about hashflare? I think they are big enough to deserve to being
considered here. I guess general opinion is that they are legit..
considered here. I guess general opinion is that they are legit..
im not trust any cloudmining, we can build our mining rig just with 1BTC
why invest our money at cloudmining if we can mining it with our real hashrate ?
I agree with you because instead of investing in other Ponzi schemes why don't we learn ourselves how mining works. Because every cloud mining is a scam because they will pay us according to their wish and according to the investment they got. If we raise any question they will say simple answer our power bills are very high Bla Bla Bla Bla...
What about hashflare? I think they are big enough to deserve to being
considered here. I guess general opinion is that they are legit..
OP is AWOL for a long time, hashflare hasn't shown any signs of legitimacy based on his criteria though. The fact that it's been running for a long time doesn't make it a good candidate for being legit. There aer many examples of schemes that collapsed and went away with user funds. considered here. I guess general opinion is that they are legit..
But they invite you to visit their mining rigs. So yes, they are legit. Profitable? That's another story, but they do mine.
Kindly note, though that they do invite to visit their mining rigs, that this is not the same as being legit (!)
I have seen a few posts from people saying they were thinking about paying them a visit, but never actually saw a comment of one who actually had done so
Some of those from OP's list owned offices and you could go there and talk to their employees. They had live chats, skypes, phone numbers. Some even had mining farms set up to look legit, made photos and videos of these mines and it was all for show.
A company with a physical location can't be called legit purely because of that.
Owning mining equipment doesn't make you a legit cloud mining company!
All true.
But even being a legit cloud mining company does not mean you will never be scammed.
Wrong business decisions, hacks, inside jobs, etc. can happen.
Cashing out the investment is near to impossible now in cloud mining. It was only good for early days and after that, it was just a scheme to rotate your own money. No profit at all.
What about hashflare? I think they are big enough to deserve to being
considered here. I guess general opinion is that they are legit..
considered here. I guess general opinion is that they are legit..
im not trust any cloudmining, we can build our mining rig just with 1BTC
why invest our money at cloudmining if we can mining it with our real hashrate ?
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