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legendary
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I even laugh harder when I read their privacy policy. What a bunch of shameless twats they are. Anybody having a Coinbase app on their phones shouldn't think beyond deleting it
They probably get around that legally because it isn't "Coinbase" which are selling your data, but rather "Coinbase Tracer" or some other subsidiary, which is of course a completely separate entity that just happens to have access to all of Coinbase's data. Roll Eyes Still, it's difficult to know who to believe in this case - a legally binding contract with the US government, or a tweet.

This is exactly the same shit they pulled after filing with the SEC and stating that all their users are unsecured creditors who will get absolutely none of their coins back should Coinbase become insolvent, but then tweeted "Don't worry, nothing to see here".

Amazing that people still buy this nonsense and trust Coinbase with a single satoshi.
copper member
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฿itcoin for all, All for ฿itcoin.
Just in case you forgot how evil this institution is:

Coinbase Is Reportedly Selling Geolocation Data to ICE
The Irony  Grin



I even laugh harder when I read their privacy policy. What a bunch of shameless twats they are. Anybody having a Coinbase app on their phones shouldn't think beyond deleting it
legendary
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It is one of the first things I have written in this thread. Coin base business plan is not providing you a venue to buy and sell bitcoins. It is provide the government data on the people who buy and sell crypto’s.
Government is the real client of coinbase.
I think this is more true everyday.
legendary
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So the blockchain analysis arm of Coinbase, which was originally a company known for aiding and abetting torture and other human rights abuse, is doing something shady!? Well, I never!

As with everything to do with Coinbase, this is awful but not in the least bit surprising. We have known for years that Coinbase collect every possible shred of data they can about you, and we have known for years that Coinbase will sell and share that data with absolutely anyone who will pay for it. Go and have a read of Section 3 at this link: https://www.coinbase.com/legal/privacy. Here is just some of the data Coinbase collects on you:
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   Personal Identification Information: Full name, date of birth, nationality, gender, signature, utility bills, photographs, phone number, home address, and/or email.

    Formal Identification Information: Government issued identity document such as Passport, Driver's License, National Identity Card, State ID Card, Tax ID number, passport number, driver's license details, national identity card details, visa information, and/or any other information deemed necessary to comply with our legal obligations under financial or anti-money laundering laws.

    Institutional Information: Employer Identification number (or comparable number issued by a government), proof of legal formation (e.g. Articles of Incorporation), personal identification information for all material beneficial owners.

    Financial Information: Bank account information, payment card primary account number (PAN), transaction history, trading data, and/or tax identification.

    Transaction Information: Information about the transactions you make on our Services, such as the name of the recipient, your name, the amount, and/or timestamp.

    Employment Information: Office location, job title, and/or description of role.

    Correspondence: Survey responses, information provided to our support team or user research team.

    Audio, electronic, visual and similar information, such as call and video recordings.

    ...

    Online Identifiers: Geo location/tracking details, browser fingerprint, operating system, browser name and version, and/or personal IP addresses.

    Usage Data: Authentication data, security questions, click-stream data, public social networking posts, and other data collected via cookies and similar technologies. Please read our Cookie Policy for more information.

Then go and read Sections 5 and 7 to see just how many different entities they share all this data with. I would quote it all here but it would take up far too much space since the list is so long.

We have also known for years that various branches of the US government are some of Coinbase's biggest partners, with multi-million dollar contracts from the FBI, IRS, ICE, SEC, and others. If you are a Coinbase user, then all the information listed above will be being shared with all of these agencies (not to mention the dozens of other third parties who buy this information from Coinbase).
legendary
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Just in case you forgot how evil this institution is:



Coinbase Is Reportedly Selling Geolocation Data to ICE


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Crypto exchange Coinbase's (COIN) analytics program, Coinbase Tracer, will provide the U.S. Immigrations and Customs Enforcement agency (ICE) with data about crypto users, including “historical geo tracking data” and transaction history, according to a contract obtained by watchdog group Tech Inquiry.


Straight from the contract





This is bad, dystopian and useless.



legendary
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~snip~
The term privacy has been always a major concern for these government agencies and they come up with these stupid lame excuses always to shatter it down and gain the full control over it as they are having in all others monetary sectors like stocks,bonds and fiat undoubtedly.So now they want to surpess the exchanges to give them such details with complete information of users transactions to trace them.The whole damn law is some user tracking virus being injected in the people nerves.


For example, all crypto transactions will be deemed “travel rule eligible”. This means crypto is treated differently to fiat (which has a 1,000 EUR threshold), which establishes a clear advantage for traditional financial service providers over new technology, with significant anti-competition and anti-innovation implications.
The worse fact is putting down the restrictions to as low as to 1000 Euros like the same 1000 CAD coinbase information requirements.People transferring such amounts have to disclose the information and coinbase have to report that to authorise also so they can monitor it under AML policy but even if no suspicious activity is carried out they can also track it with such laws.So where is the privacy barrier gone? Blown with single law only.



Among the worst of the proposed provisions are new obligations on exchanges to collect, verify and report information on non-customers using self-hosted wallets.
Sounds like NSA keeping the satellite track of each Individual and even listening to their conversations like in Movie Enemy of the State which seems to be true in this case also with such strict laws.The government thinks they can pressurize the people with such laws and can seek low investment in these crypto market so they can launch their own shit CDBC but that's not happening at all.Avoid using these centralised exchanges at any cost that will protect your funds and give you privacy.

See who's talking about privacy who are also don't know it's true meaning and selling the private information to the government agencies

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Coinbase’s Chief Legal Officer added:

If you care about protecting the privacy of individuals, and focusing the law on solutions that actually address legitimate concerns about the illicit use of digital assets, now is the time to speak up and be heard. We must speak with one, strong voice against this proposal before it’s too late.

They have already shaken hands with them and now poilitcising it for personal advantage to retain the users but themselves also do the same thing.So not surprised they will comply with the laws if passed easily.
legendary
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Today I received this email:



Making your voice heard ahead of Thursday’s critical EU vote


The text referenced in the email is the following one:

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Making your voice heard ahead of Thursday’s critical EU vote

By Paul Grewal, Chief Legal Officer


Bad facts make bad law. We see this in jurisdictions all over the world, especially when it comes to digital assets. Unfortunately, we are about to see this again — this time in the European Union — in the form of a revision to the Transfer of Funds Regulation. If adopted, this revision would unleash an entire surveillance regime on exchanges like Coinbase, stifle innovation, and undermine the self-hosted wallets that individuals use to securely protect their digital assets. The vote will likely take place this week so time is running out.

Here are the bad “facts”:

(1) digital assets like Bitcoin, Ethereum and others are a primary way criminals hide and move money

(2) law enforcement has no way to track these movements

(3) requiring collection and verification of personal information associated with self-hosted is not a violation of their privacy

State of play

The truth is that digital assets are in general a markedly inferior way for criminals to hide their illicit financial activity. That’s why, according to the best research available, by far the most popular way to hide illicit financial activity remains cash. Unlike with cash, law enforcement can track and trace digital asset transfers with advanced analytics tools. None of this requires upsetting the settled privacy expectations of wallet holders because the open architecture underlying digital assets is public and offers unprecedented transparency into transaction details. The records are also permanent — no one (not crypto companies, not governments, not even bad actors) can destroy or alter information. In short, digital assets and the immutable nature of their blockchain technology actually enhances the ability to detect and deter illicit activity. But rather than embracing and leveraging the benefits that arise from the increasing use of digital assets, the EU’s proposal would cast them aside and impose a host of new privacy invasions on wallet users.

For example, all crypto transactions will be deemed “travel rule eligible”. This means crypto is treated differently to fiat (which has a 1,000 EUR threshold), which establishes a clear advantage for traditional financial service providers over new technology, with significant anti-competition and anti-innovation implications.

Among the worst of the proposed provisions are new obligations on exchanges to collect, verify and report information on non-customers using self-hosted wallets. For instance, one provision requires exchanges to not only collect personal data about wallet users who are not their customers, but to also verify the data’s accuracy before allowing a transfer to one of their customers. In fiat terms, this would basically mean you cannot take money out of your bank account to send to someone else until you share personal data with your financial institution about that person and verify their identity. Not only is this verification requirement nearly impossible to do but requiring exchanges to engage in extensive data collection, verification, and retention about non-customers runs against core EU data protection principles of data minimization and proportionality.

Another dangerous provision would require exchanges to inform “competent authorities” of every single transfer from a non-customer’s self-hosted wallet equal to or greater than 1,000 EUR — regardless of any suspicion of bad activity. The proposal even leaves the door open to a total ban on transfers to self-hosted wallets even though there is no evidence that such a ban would have any impact on illicit activity at all. Like we said, bad facts make bad policy.

Make your voice heard

There’s precious time to act and we need to make our voices heard. A vote on Parliament’s draft proposal could come as early as Thursday, March 31st. If you care about protecting the privacy of individuals, and focusing the law on solutions that actually address legitimate concerns about the illicit use of digital assets, now is the time to speak up and be heard. We must speak with one, strong voice against this proposal before it’s too late.


Now, are we so endangered we must resort to Coinbase to resist for our rights?
legendary
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I was just thinking along the same lines of the post by RickDeckard above, but in relation to this point as well. We already know that Coinbase is anti-bitcoin, anti-privacy, pro-regulation, and pro-government by their ongoing work with the CIA, FBI, IRS, ICE, and a variety of other government agencies. It's no surprise really, when they are so happy to jump in to bed with the government, that they would be happy to jump in to bed with fiat banks and other institutions. Anything in the name of profit when it comes to Coinbase, to the detriment of all their users and even to bitcoin itself. As long as they keep lining their own pockets, right?
Exactly these exchanges works like some private firms setup for their own benefits who is promising big to the customers but in reality they are in line up with these central agencies working on their behalf to fool people.They are getting huge revenues from the customer but also compromising their security at big level like selling information to DEA and IRS or say other sources also.

Coinbase sold their blockchain analytics software to these agencies and openly announced it on the net but have they shared that users privacy is also being shared with them in order to track them down? No way they have stated in the privacy policy that it's because no money laundering or illicit use of funds take place but they are themselves doing such shaddy business.I don't understand if we are trading in decentralised coins like bitcoin with the help of these centralised exchange asking for privacy and KYC then what's the fun of decentralisation?

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The Vidovics' account had risen to $168,596 on April 28 when the hacking occurred, according to account statements the Vidovics shared with CNBC. That amount was essentially wiped out, with only a $587.15 balance shown the next day.

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Since 2016, Coinbase users have filed more than 11,000 complaints against Coinbase with the Federal Trade Commission and Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, mostly related to customer service.

There are many such cases you will find against coinsbase frauds and it's almost clear they are backed by these government agencies to work for them.The CEO brain and all other complies to their demands and give them records which they use against customers to track them dowm.So better evade the use of these centralised exchanges before that.
legendary
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Some spies of mine referred me  that Coinbase is selling their services to institutional customers exactly this way: ultra compliance safe, regulation abiding, even at cost of being slightly behind the curve regarding to products offering.
I was just thinking along the same lines of the post by RickDeckard above, but in relation to this point as well. We already know that Coinbase is anti-bitcoin, anti-privacy, pro-regulation, and pro-government by their ongoing work with the CIA, FBI, IRS, ICE, and a variety of other government agencies. It's no surprise really, when they are so happy to jump in to bed with the government, that they would be happy to jump in to bed with fiat banks and other institutions. Anything in the name of profit when it comes to Coinbase, to the detriment of all their users and even to bitcoin itself. As long as they keep lining their own pockets, right?
legendary
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Every exchange must abide to regulation. This is a certainty, the point is Coinbase always is the first to fully implement regulations, in the detrimental interest of his users.
I've said it before, but where is the outrage? Where is the lobbying? Where is the fight? As usual, absolutely nothing from Coinbase other than complete and immediate submission and selling out their users in order to continue to line their own pockets.
I think that this is an expected behaviour of a company with so many ties to the US government at least - as you've rightful reported in another thread o_e_l_e_o[1]. I think that Coinbase simply doesn't want to go against/repel the government pleads simply because they want to fall on their good grace and eventually land similar contracts such as the ones it has with the USA government. The fact that Brian Armstrong - Coinbase CEO - literally sold $292 million in shares in the first day that Coinbase went up in NASDAQ really shows the kind of driver behind his goals towards Coinbase and its future.

[1]https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57990134
[2]https://www.reuters.com/technology/coinbase-chief-executive-armstrong-sold-2918-million-shares-opening-day-2021-04-19/
legendary
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Unless, as speculated, that real users of Coinbase are the Governments and tax agencies around the world.
Hit the nail on the head. Coinbase are going the same way of other large companies like Meta and Google - they are steadily transitioning to a data harvesting company. All the services and products they provide are really just a means to collecting and monetizing more data.

Some spies of mine referred me  that Coinbase is selling their services to institutional customers exactly this way: ultra compliance safe, regulation abiding, even at cost of being slightly behind the curve regarding to products offering.
That‘s enough said.
legendary
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Every exchange must abide to regulation. This is a certainty, the point is Coinbase always is the first to fully implement regulations, in the detrimental interest of his users.
I've said it before, but where is the outrage? Where is the lobbying? Where is the fight? As usual, absolutely nothing from Coinbase other than complete and immediate submission and selling out their users in order to continue to line their own pockets.

Unless, as speculated, that real users of Coinbase are the Governments and tax agencies around the world.
Hit the nail on the head. Coinbase are going the same way of other large companies like Meta and Google - they are steadily transitioning to a data harvesting company. All the services and products they provide are really just a means to collecting and monetizing more data.
legendary
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Coinbase confirms itself a pro-government organisation, even if they ask them aggressive actions against their customers:
Today this picture was all over Twitter:
Yeah just witnessed these pictures of Canadian customers receiving this email from Coinbase where you need to disclose the information above $1000 CAD to anyone like the recipient which has shattered the privacy issues and people are against this.But we might be familiar with these behaviour of exchanges who in order to run abide by these rules and become puppets of the federal agencies more likely operating for them.They have said it is implemented due to the Canada's FINTAC
rules covering these transactions but this is stupidity because where is the privacy?

But wait there was not much of privacy things over coinbase early also as they were selling out the personal information of the users to some companies and DEA to track their transactions records also, denying user withdrawal request many times.If you Google about it then you would also know privacy issues with them.But now they have gone one more step ahead becoming government agents.

They have stated the  requirements of additional information also which is beyond imagination like seriously they want name, address and above it some more so no fun of using these services.

If you leave your coins on an exchange, you leave yourself exposed to those aggressive practices.
That's well said and never trust these exchanges for your funds because they are now being operated under central monopolies of which we need to be freed.Moreover not your keys not your coins is for these exchanges.
 
Canadian government is now on a dystopian berserker after the “trucker incident”.
 Actually, honey badger doesn’t care.
Actually they are also not able to freeze the bitcoin donations being sent for the truckers convoy protest worth millions of dollars so now they are cracking up new things to put some peer pressure but will end up with nothing in their hands.So let them try with all these coinbase tricks and we might see user downfall in them.
legendary
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This is totally mindblowing, it looks more and more like the traditional banking system... I wonder will other exchanges also have to comply with these laws? I'm guessing that Binance somehow will "evade" this rule as it has been evading others for a while now...

Every exchange must abide to regulation. This is a certainty, the point is Coinbase always is the first to fully implement regulations, in the detrimental interest of his users. Unless, as speculated, that real users of Coinbase are the Governments and tax agencies around the world.
legendary
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Sadly it seems that Canada isn't the only country where this law will apply fillippone - clients from Japan and Singapore will also be affected by it[1]! For Canada it seems that the rule will start being applied on the 4th of April. Here's the requirements for both Japan and Singapore respectfully:
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For users in Singapore, all crypto transfers from a Coinbase user’s exchange wallet to an outside address will require the recipient's full name and country of residence. This will take effect on April 1, with Coinbase citing local Singaporean regulations.
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And in Japan, all transfers of crypto assets to recipients outside of Japan must include the recipient’s name, address and destination wallet, according to the English translation of rules established by the Japan Cryptocurrency Trading Association (JVCEA). This will take effect on April 1.
This is totally mindblowing, it looks more and more like the traditional banking system... I wonder will other exchanges also have to comply with these laws? I'm guessing that Binance somehow will "evade" this rule as it has been evading others for a while now...

[1]https://www.coindesk.com/business/2022/03/25/coinbase-to-require-recipient-information-for-crypto-transfers-from-users-in-canada-singapore-and-japan/
legendary
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Coinbase confirms itself a pro-government organisation, even if they ask them aggressive actions against their customers:
Today this picture was all over Twitter:



If you leave your coins on an exchange, you leave yourself exposed to those aggressive practices.  Canadian government is now on a dystopian berserker after the “trucker incident”.
 Actually, honey badger doesn’t care.


legendary
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At the time, the company stressed that "the information offered in Coinbase Analytics has always been kept completely separate from Coinbase internal data."

But also:
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Coinbase "is the only vendor who can provide the licenses required by the agency," it said.

So we are to believe that out of all the blockchain analysis companies, some of which (such as Chainalysis) are larger than Coinbase Analytics, have been running for much longer, and have already received (and are continuing to receive) hundreds of contracts worth tens of millions of dollars from multiple US government agencies, Coinbase is the only one which can provide the information the government want in this case, but it definitely has nothing to do with the fact that they are the only blockchain analysis company attached to a major exchange.

Oh, and although Coinbase have admitted selling user data to a bunch of unknown external third parties without knowledge or consent of their users, they definitely aren't sharing user data between two branches of the same company.

I don't buy this nonsense for a second. Coinbase are absolutely selling out their users to the government.
legendary
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Everything you say is correct, but that news article is over a year old.


You are absolutely right.

I was reading an article on Coindesk, and I click through various links, where they said "first reported", and I thought I was looking for the original source, while in reality, I was reading an old article.

I should have linked this one:

Homeland Security inks deal with Coinbase for its blockchain analytics software

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The U.S. Department of Homeland Security has signed a deal with Coinbase to use its blockchain tracing software, Coinbase Analytics.

The current deal value is $455,000 for one year, but it can go up to a total amount of $1.4 million through 2024, according to government tracker USAspending.gov.

Thanks for pointing out.
legendary
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Everything you say is correct, but that news article is over a year old.

I was just discussing this in another thread so I've got the links handy, but through public records you can see just how many contracts Coinbase Analytics and other blockchain analysis companies have received from the DEA, IRS, and other government agencies:


The most recent contract for Coinbase Analytics was signed just 5 days ago for a nice $455,000 by US Immigration and Customs Enforcement. It's probably also worth noting that the IRS were already hiring out Neutrino before Coinbase acquired them and changed their name to Coinbase Analytics, so it's no surprise that these contracts have been ongoing: https://www.fpds.gov/ezsearch/fpdsportal?indexName=awardfull&templateName=1.5.1&s=FPDS.GOV&q=VENDOR_FULL_NAME%3A%22NEUTRINO+SRL%22&x=0&y=0.

Given that Coinbase have admitted to illegally selling customer information to third parties, and suffered literally no repercussions from it, then of course they will be monetizing their user data as part of these contracts.
legendary
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Coinbase is at it again:

Coinbase wants to sell blockchain analysis software to the IRS and DEA a year after its Neutrino acquisition

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Quick Take
  • Public records show that Coinbase wants to sell blockchain analytics software to the U.S. government
  • Records indicate that the awards have not been made as of yet
  • Both the DEA and IRS have expressed interest in awarding contracts to Coinbase for an analytics platform called Coinbase Analytics
  • The developments come a year after Coinbase’s controversial purchase of intelligence firm Neutrino, and Neutrino is mentioned in the IRS documentation

They are at it again.
They are finally leveraging their Neutrino acquisition, inking a deal with the government, at the expense of the privacy of their userbase.
Of course, information is public and accessible, so Coinbase is not telling anything that is not already public and available, but of course, being themselves in the position of knowledge of a lot of private details of their users puts them in a debatable position. On one side they sell privacy disrupting technologies to the government, on the other they have plenty of data about their userbase, and they are obliged to show those to the government on request. Their declaration about od the two areas being completely separate doesn't make me more relaxed about this. To me, it looks like another way of monetizing their userbase, not providing them additional features, or services, but instead selling their data to the governments.


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