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Topic: Coinbase the most anti-Bitcoin organisation. Make #DeleteCoinbase great again - page 7. (Read 2339 times)

legendary
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this is not new, Coinbase has been working with the government agencies for a very long time now. wasn't they also the reason why they caught a couple of people involved in silkroad, etc.? in any case centralized services including exchanges will always be bad for bitcoin whether they are actively working on violating users' privacy like Coinbase or not.

by the way your title sounds like the "deletecoinbase" is the organization rather than "coinbase" Tongue

do you think coinbase is angling to integrate their own user data into their analytics software? i assume that would violate various privacy laws.
i don't think "privacy laws" even exist when it comes to US government. they have placed many loopholes in their law over the years that they easily violate anything they like.
jr. member
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No one should be remotely surprised. The moment you enter Coinbase you're dropped straight onto the corporate cock from a great height and start rotating at speeds of up to 3000 rpm. They are the epitome of wannabe establishment, and wannabes are that much keener to get in The Man's good graces.

All users should plan accordingly.

I am sure the whole cryptocurrency industry is alarmed and sad with this development. However, this is quite understandable as Coinbase is just another greedy corporation whose main and foremost concern is profit and they are so willing to cooperate with the government, so they can continue operating in USA without any skirmishes and legal frictions.  Maybe we should start to evaluate now if we really need the services offered by Coinbase and if we can get the same with other platforms.  I am not into Coinbase, by the way.
legendary
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Merit: 3015
Welt Am Draht
do you think coinbase is angling to integrate their own user data into their analytics software? i assume that would violate various privacy laws.

i find this all depressing but also unsurprising. coinbase has been establishing a finger in every pie---wallet, exchange, merchants, custody, OTC, etc---while bowing to regulators at every turn. why not blockchain analysis too?

I've no idea where one's privacy stands for things like this. It's not as if you have a great deal with Google.

I'll guess many people believe Coinbase's aspiration is the most sweeping choke hold possible on every aspect of the scene until they become a one stop shop for authorities, from asset seizures to surveillance with one handy phone call. And they might be right.
legendary
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an interesting interpol report on wasabi wallet popped up in that jameson lopp thread: https://www.tbstat.com/wp/uploads/2020/06/Europol-Wasabi-Wallet-Report.pdf

key takeaways: wasabi coinjoins are easy to recognize but cannot be de-mixed unless you make a mistake like re-consolidating outputs afterwards. "suspects who avoid major slip-ups have a very high probability of staying undetected"

No one should be remotely surprised. The moment you enter Coinbase you're dropped straight onto the corporate cock from a great height and start rotating at speeds of up to 3000 rpm. They are the epitome of wannabe establishment, and wannabes are that much keener to get in The Man's good graces.

All users should plan accordingly.

do you think coinbase is angling to integrate their own user data into their analytics software? i assume that would violate various privacy laws.

i find this all depressing but also unsurprising. coinbase has been establishing a finger in every pie---wallet, exchange, merchants, custody, OTC, etc---while bowing to regulators at every turn. why not blockchain analysis too?
legendary
Activity: 2590
Merit: 3015
Welt Am Draht
No one should be remotely surprised. The moment you enter Coinbase you're dropped straight onto the corporate cock from a great height and start rotating at speeds of up to 3000 rpm. They are the epitome of wannabe establishment, and wannabes are that much keener to get in The Man's good graces.

All users should plan accordingly.
legendary
Activity: 2380
Merit: 17063
Fully fledged Merit Cycler - Golden Feather 22-23
We knew it would have happened sooner or later.
#deletecoinbase was a trend last year for a reason.
That is what just happened:

Coinbase wants to sell blockchain analysis software to the IRS and DEA a year after its Neutrino

  • Public records show that Coinbase wants to sell blockchain analytics software to the U.S. government
  • Records indicate that the awards have not been made as of yet
  • Both the DEA and IRS have expressed interest in awarding contracts to Coinbase for an analytics platform called Coinbase Analytics
  • The developments come a year after Coinbase’s controversial purchase of intelligence firm Neutrino, and Neutrino is mentioned in the IRS documentation


Jameson Lopp pointed out correctly Bitcoin is already moving forward to make their heuristic techniques obsolete:

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This is no surprise, our distrust in you is strengthened, we will make your analytics software obsolete
https://twitter.com/lopp/status/1269009773778939910?s=20


Bitcoin has all the technology now (coinjoins, payjoins, mixers, whirlpool etc...) to make their analysis more difficult.
The user has the obligation to usa all those means to improve their privacy and the one of all the other users.
Don't let them succeed in their plan to leverage their Neutrino acquisition, pursuing their plan of trading our privacy with their business model.


On this subject, there is a wonderful treatise by my fellow italian bitcoiner Giacomo Zucco:


A Treatise On Bitcoin And Privacy Part 1: A Match Made In The Whitepaper
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How one’s focus can shift in just two weeks! While today everybody in the Bitcoin space seems more concerned with price fluctuations in response to the global financial panic (understandably so), it’s important to remember perennial issues that never go away, like the importance of maintaining your privacy when you transact in bitcoin. Throughout this month especially, we’ve been hearing reports of KYC/AML-compliant exchanges freezing user accounts due to suspected use of CoinJoin software (more on that later), followed by yet another case of a famous and respected early Bitcoin proponent promoting his new illiquid altcoin as something that “will replace Bitcoin, which isn’t private enough!”

If you want to take a short break from global pandemics, financial meltdowns and price volatility, here’s an attempt at analyzing claims, facts and context of this latest “Bitcoin drama.” To begin with, in Part 1 of this two-part series, we’ll start by looking at the fundamental relationship between Bitcoin and privacy by going back to the beginning with the whitepaper. Then, in Part 2, we’ll focus on some the ways that Bitcoin privacy is being maintained and improved upon — and strike down a few “red herrings.”


A Treatise On Bitcoin And Privacy Part 2: Don’t Be Misled By Red Herrings
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In Part One of this treatise, we examined the fundamental relationship between Bitcoin and privacy by going back to the beginning with the whitepaper. In spite of some excellent privacy preserving options  that have been available to users since those early days, we seem to have taken a few wrong turns. But to fix it, in order to make Bitcoin’s privacy “great again,” we must be able to distinguish between real privacy and red herrings that can only lead us further off the path.


I strongly recommend this reading, explaining why privacy is important for all of us.
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