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Topic: ★★ Coinbuilder ★★ | BUILD | In-wallet altcoin generator | Stage 2 soon - page 4. (Read 31576 times)

legendary
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After several hours of brainstorming on how to launch the wallet, but still being able easily to apply changes for the 'final' version:

During Stage 2, the coinbuilder will be released as an additional tool.
This means, a seperate module that communicates with your wallet, just like it will in the 'final' version where everything is in one QT.
You will need to configure your OPES.conf and input the data for the module to communicate with your wallet.

This gives us following advantages:


- Scalable in case of bugs, upgrades or updates without 50 (as a way of speaking) wallet updates.
- Cloning proof until the final version has been released fully opensourced on Github.
- Flexibilty. If the separate coinbuilder does the job, there are considerations to sell the separate plugin module afterwards for those who missed out on BUILD stages.
  This might also lead to release a compiled library so others can take advantage of the coinbuilder API in other projects without the need for the QT wallet.

This release plan leads to the fastest way of development right now, so we can show and proof a working coinbuilder one stage faster as planned.


sounds good, if you deliver a lot of us will join Stage 2. GL
legendary
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Graphic Design & Translation - BTC accepted here!
sounds okay, send me a PM if you need beta-testers. i could also provide the german translation for your ANN post.
legendary
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After several hours of brainstorming on how to launch the wallet, but still being able easily to apply changes for the 'final' version:

During Stage 2, the coinbuilder will be released as an additional tool.
This means, a seperate module that communicates with your wallet, just like it will in the 'final' version where everything is in one QT.
You will need to configure your OPES.conf and input the data for the module to communicate with your wallet.

This gives us following advantages:


- Scalable in case of bugs, upgrades or updates without 50 (as a way of speaking) wallet updates.
- Cloning proof until the final version has been released fully opensourced on Github.
- Flexibilty. If the separate coinbuilder does the job, there are considerations to sell the separate plugin module afterwards for those who missed out on BUILD stages.
  This might also lead to release a compiled library so others can take advantage of the coinbuilder API in other projects without the need for the QT wallet.

This release plan leads to the fastest way of development right now, so we can show and proof a working coinbuilder one stage faster as planned.

full member
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^ I would also appreciate more clarification on this question. After stage 2 will we have a functioning coinbuilder wallet or just a basic running one?
legendary
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to be clear, now the dev should release the wallet during stage 2, or you will stop the ICO and you will refund who have bought it.
Nothing to do with CAT, that's not important if dev will buy it or not?

Exactly. Small correction: release first version of wallet before end of stage 2 hold period (stage 2 end + 5 days). Or I will stop ICO and refund all for stage 2.

Sorry could you be more specific - "first version of wallet" (just wallet based on GPL code) or "first working version of coin generator"? I understand some may think that is the same thing, but it is not.
Well I agree they're 2 different things.  O base Version of the wallet doesn't mean that we will have a coin builder version
legendary
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www.cryptodesign.cc
i have a feeling that this is going to the right direction from the start, except there is a little bit lack of trust around.
legendary
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No risk, no fun!
Hello! This is Yuriy, C-CEX owner. I would like to post my statement about this project.

1. Any kind of possible account stuff does not say that dev is not going to deliver product he promise.
2. CAT bot issues does not say that dev is not going to fulfill his promises about development.
3. This ICO has special conditions posted before it was started. Everybody knew that product will be delivered after stage 3. But developer worked out this condition in favour of investors and stated to deliver early product after stage 2 completion. So we will continue ICO to stage 2 and in case developer will not deliver what he promise during stage 2 5-days hold period - investors will have our protection and we will issue full refunds for stage 2.
4. I case stage 2 successful and early wallet version introduced to public - we will release funds from stage 2 and continue to stage 3.

Looking forward for great development. Please, don't post "scam" messages if you don't have evidence.

Wow, I am a little bit impressed, that you have really an eye on some ICO's! Respect!

Keep up the good work!


Greetz
Meta
full member
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Hello! This is Yuriy, C-CEX owner. I would like to post my statement about this project.

1. Any kind of possible account stuff does not say that dev is not going to deliver product he promise.
2. CAT bot issues does not say that dev is not going to fulfill his promises about development.
3. This ICO has special conditions posted before it was started. Everybody knew that product will be delivered after stage 3. But developer worked out this condition in favour of investors and stated to deliver early product after stage 2 completion. So we will continue ICO to stage 2 and in case developer will not deliver what he promise during stage 2 5-days hold period - investors will have our protection and we will issue full refunds for stage 2.
4. I case stage 2 successful and early wallet version introduced to public - we will release funds from stage 2 and continue to stage 3.

Looking forward for great development. Please, don't post "scam" messages if you don't have evidence.

Sorry, you and dev already lost me. Good luck to investors.
legendary
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to be clear, now the dev should release the wallet during stage 2, or you will stop the ICO and you will refund who have bought it.
Nothing to do with CAT, that's not important if dev will buy it or not?

Exactly. Small correction: release first version of wallet before end of stage 2 hold period (stage 2 end + 5 days). Or I will stop ICO and refund all for stage 2.

Sorry could you be more specific - "first version of wallet" (just wallet based on GPL code) or "first working version of coin generator"? I understand some may think that is the same thing, but it is not.
legendary
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CryptoCurrency EXchange: https://c-cex.com
to be clear, now the dev should release the wallet during stage 2, or you will stop the ICO and you will refund who have bought it.
Nothing to do with CAT, that's not important if dev will buy it or not?

Exactly. Small correction: release first version of wallet before end of stage 2 hold period (stage 2 end + 5 days). Or I will stop ICO and refund all for stage 2.
sr. member
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I love to trade
Hello! This is Yuriy, C-CEX owner. I would like to post my statement about this project.

1. Any kind of possible account stuff does not say that dev is not going to deliver product he promise.
2. CAT bot issues does not say that dev is not going to fulfill his promises about development.
3. This ICO has special conditions posted before it was started. Everybody knew that product will be delivered after stage 3. But developer worked out this condition in favour of investors and stated to deliver early product after stage 2 completion. So we will continue ICO to stage 2 and in case developer will not deliver what he promise during stage 2 5-days hold period - investors will have our protection and we will issue full refunds for stage 2.
4. I case stage 2 successful and early wallet version introduced to public - we will release funds from stage 2 and continue to stage 3.

Looking forward for great development. Please, don't post "scam" messages if you don't have evidence.
to be clear, now the dev should release the wallet during stage 2, or you will stop the ICO and you will refund who have bought it.
Nothing to do with CAT, that's not important if dev will buy it or not?
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1001
CryptoCurrency EXchange: https://c-cex.com
Hello! This is Yuriy, C-CEX owner. I would like to post my statement about this project.

1. Any kind of possible account stuff does not say that dev is not going to deliver product he promise.
2. CAT bot issues does not say that dev is not going to fulfill his promises about development.
3. This ICO has special conditions posted before it was started. Everybody knew that product will be delivered after stage 3. But developer worked out this condition in favour of investors and stated to deliver early product after stage 2 completion. So we will continue ICO to stage 2 and in case developer will not deliver what he promise during stage 2 5-days hold period - investors will have our protection and we will issue full refunds for stage 2.
4. I case stage 2 successful and early wallet version introduced to public - we will release funds from stage 2 and continue to stage 3.

Looking forward for great development. Please, don't post "scam" messages if you don't have evidence.
legendary
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Update:

The wallet will be available at the end of stage 2.
I'll remove the C.A.T. tags that could be misleading until the licenses have been paid upfront to Sampey (or make a very clear statement they are not payed yet)

According to the 3-staged special ICO conditions as mentioned in the OP:

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Special conditions arise on the escrowing exchange side; The funds from Stage 1 will be available after the holding period in order to fund Stage 2 (Contests, signature campaigns, ...)

The funds will be released to pay the contests rewards.
Also the twitter campaign is about to start.

Stage 2 will start Sunday, 27/12/2015 at 20:00 GMT0

Thank you all for the wonderfull graphical submittings so far  Smiley


TL;DR

- Wallet will be ready by the end of Stage 2
- Funds from Stage 1 will be used to pay the bounties for Stage 2
- Stage 2 starts 27/12/2015 - 20:00 GMT0

Also, no more drama here Cheesy The main focus is on BUILD, and BUILD only.
My primary target is to get BUILD up, running and working.

All FUD and unrelated posts get deleted without any warning. I'm tired of dealing with such posts.

Here is my last PM to Sampey, this goes for all of you

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Everybody knows, once i pay the licenses, C.A.T. will work.
But nobody knows that the building function will work.

So i really need to complete my initial commit to BUILD before integrating the licenses.
And that could take some days. Afterwards, i'm fine with our agreement, and, if you bail out, i'll even pay them full price.

I'm a man of honour. Always have been, always will be. And my honour is also to make sure my users get a working wallet before the license, that will work anyway.

So, the primary focus is on BUILD from now on. Expect regular technical updates from Stage 2 onwards.


Tarmi.
legendary
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No jokes with me man, you choose the wrong person. (...)





Any new or scam confirmed?
Cex will refuund us?
the scam will be if the wallet can't make a coin, if the dev will buy cat full price it's his problem
newbie
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sr. member
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I love to trade
some credibility has been lost for this coin, but I hope tarmi can regain it back
legendary
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Professional Native Greek Translator (2000+ done)
The Greek Translation is complete! Enjoy guys! https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/coinbuilder-1289536

 Smiley Wink Cheesy Grin Shocked Roll Eyes Kiss

the greek trans is not yet on the first page of the op please fix dev
legendary
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Once we have the visual rebranding ready, members of this community will be given pre-access to the Github to test the coin and verify the builder outputs.

If all goes well, we release the wallet to public from the moment the trusted testers confirm and vouch for it's quality.



Define "trusted members": who do you think is able to test the builder outputs and how, so what are the "specs" that need to be met ?

I'll be happy to add you to the Github  Smiley
You recognize a good coin source when you look at it.

Ugh sorry - without being negative in any way - but I don't want to be involved at this point  - I just wanted to know who you might think of (beside me). I'd recommend gjhiggins : https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/gjhiggins-254673 or, of course, earlz https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/earlz-317881 - not sure if they want to be involved though.


come on OC, you always check coin sources for fun, and it doesn't mean you're involved in it, you should check this source too for the good of the community everybody will appreciate that.

I will for sure have a look at it - no doubt, but I don't want to be "used" like Sampey with addition(s) to this thread (maybe even in the Topic ..) - so I better stand at the sideline and watch from a "safe distance" Smiley

But I'm interested and will absolutely have a look at it - no doubt.
legendary
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Once we have the visual rebranding ready, members of this community will be given pre-access to the Github to test the coin and verify the builder outputs.

If all goes well, we release the wallet to public from the moment the trusted testers confirm and vouch for it's quality.



Define "trusted members": who do you think is able to test the builder outputs and how, so what are the "specs" that need to be met ?

I'll be happy to add you to the Github  Smiley
You recognize a good coin source when you look at it.

Ugh sorry - without being negative in any way - but I don't want to be involved at this point  - I just wanted to know who you might think of (beside me). I'd recommend gjhiggins : https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/gjhiggins-254673 or, of course, earlz https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/earlz-317881 - not sure if they want to be involved though.


come on OC, you always check coin sources for fun, and it doesn't mean you're involved in it, you should check this source too for the good of the community everybody will appreciate that.
legendary
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Professional Native Greek Translator (2000+ done)
Guys, thank you all for the splendid work creating logo's and translations.

However, to keep this ANN clean, i will now start a new topic in the correct subforums for the contests  Smiley
I'll update this ANN with the correct links, rewards, timelines, and winners once selected.

For translators, same goes for you.
I'll update ANN with your translation, and contact you one by one for the rewards before 26/12/2015

Thank you

much appreciated. thanks for the awesome work dev!
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