Coindragon Campaign Manager (xvids) is a Bounty cheater

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Quote from: bhabygrim on April 03, 2020, 09:32:31 PM

On behalf of Bhabygrim I don't really know how to defend this since this account was only sold to me by my cousin on late 2018.
I don't know who is xvids and I know that this is hard to believe,
The only proof that I could give you is the campaignthat I had been participating.

Quote from: bhabygrim on March 19, 2020, 12:41:53 AM

#Proof of Authentication
Bitcointalk Username: bhabygrim
Bitcointalk Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=981553
Telegram Username: @bhabygrim

so other than being previously "piloted" by xvids. your account is also sold to you by your cousin? that statement alone you saying that the account is sold to you is enough to get you a red tag from DT's.

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Quote from: xvids on April 06, 2020, 10:49:21 AM

I am just curious here are you really helping the forum or are you just filling your weekly post requirement?
Because the way you post doesn't look's like you understand what I have stated before?

LoL

you make me laugh Grin

A good effort to oppose Grin

I have about 50 posts per week for a campaign that only requires 25 posts, do you think I write to qualify each week?

Quote from: xvids on April 06, 2020, 10:49:21 AM

Get out of the signature because I am cheating it? Do you have any proof about it?

With the above evidence, are you still lying?

Quote from: xvids on April 06, 2020, 10:49:21 AM

As all of you have said Bhabygrim is my alt-account and I am a bounty cheater and yet the account Bhabygrim isn't part of the campaign.
I am also curious about how things work now that I become a new campaign manager a trusted account that has been gone for a long time recently woke up and gave me 30 merit out of the blue?
I think even if I didn't pilot Bhabygrim back then I would still get a red trust and my reputation as a new campaign manager would still be questioned.

Of course, I understand, everything is just a coincidence to you and you're just a victim here Cheesy

keep lying, it's okay Wink

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Quote from: ChuckBuck on April 06, 2020, 08:52:01 AM

Yes of course, certainly, it is his old BTC address. Perhaps, when the bhabygrim account was sold, his old BTC address was also included with it Cheesy

We continue to have a perfect excuse for a liar Cheesy

Well done xvids, you are so kind when selling the BTC address to the account buyer, the buyer is also stupid to take risks and use that address so far Grin

Now get out of the signature campaigns you're cheating again

@Avirunes nice detection

I am just curious here are you really helping the forum or are you just filling your weekly post requirement?
Because the way you post doesn't look's like you understand what I have stated before?
Get out of the signature because I am cheating it? Do you have any proof about it?
As all of you have said Bhabygrim is my alt-account and I am a bounty cheater and yet the account Bhabygrim isn't part of the campaign.
I am also curious about how things work now that I become a new campaign manager a trusted account that has been gone for a long time recently woke up and gave me 30 merit out of the blue?
I think even if I didn't pilot Bhabygrim back then I would still get a red trust and my reputation as a new campaign manager would still be questioned.

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Hello and thanks to everyone for this investigation.

I'm following (even if i guess there is no more things to investigate as everything is pretty clear now...).

We will take action against @bhabygrim

So again, thanks especially to @cheater detector and @Avirunes

Quote from: The Cryptovator on April 03, 2020, 10:37:03 AM

Interesting thing is both of account running campaign currently and both platform name almost similar (coindragon & coinsaga). There is more chance of abuse when managers abused campaign previously.

Archived links not working to me, so here is Archived links.
1. Luckydice Archived
2. David Chaum'XX Campaign Archived

Tagged for now, will reconsider feedback if they could provide reasonable excuses.

I'm not sure what do you mean when you write "name and platform are almost similar"... I just searched for this coindragon and i would like to ask how is it similar to CoinSaga platform?
Also, about the name: Coinmarketcap use also the word "Coin" but this doesn't mean that is related to CoinSaga. Isn't it?

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Quote from: Avirunes on April 06, 2020, 05:57:53 AM

[You lying about account being sold in 2018]

You used this eth address: 0xA17e6f445Ff8368E30E86dA800265aE39Bd59aAd recently

Quote from: bhabygrim on January 29, 2020, 07:00:59 AM

BTC address : 3R25vLrcEAuLawPMesFYS75tQTv7E6nWfR
ETH address : 0xA17e6f445Ff8368E30E86dA800265aE39Bd59aAd

(Archive: http://archive.is/S2ywo#selection-2669.14-2669.56)

Same address was used in joining the ACT signature campaign before the account was sold as you said in 2018.

I think you got a little confused, the ETH address doesn't have any contacts here Cheesy

But we have a clear association through the BTC address

Quote from: xvids on April 03, 2020, 11:00:57 AM

The (3QFWnoewJJQBjguo8qQCf3kYdgb19vmeRF) was my old BTC Address that is why I use it everytime I pilot Bhabygrim's account.

Yes of course, certainly, it is his old BTC address. Perhaps, when the bhabygrim account was sold, his old BTC address was also included with it Cheesy

We continue to have a perfect excuse for a liar Cheesy

Well done xvids, you are so kind when selling the BTC address to the account buyer, the buyer is also stupid to take risks and use that address so far Grin

Now get out of the signature campaigns you're cheating again

@Avirunes nice detection

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Quote from: cheater detector on April 03, 2020, 03:06:33 AM

Yeah there is no url to reffer since the thread was locked,

Here to learn how to quote locked topic https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/enabling-quotes-in-locked-topics-5203983
example:

Quote from: xvids on February 16, 2017, 03:29:00 PM

User: xvids
Postion to Apply: Jr. member
Posts Start: 49
Address: 3QFWnoewJJQBjguo8qQCf3kYdgb19vmeRF

link to convert time https://www.epochconverter.com/batch#results

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Quote from: bhabygrim on April 06, 2020, 03:47:33 AM

So what's the point even if I give you all the details and answer all of the question the trust rating on this account would still be negative.
So I don't see any point on explaining anymore and this will be my last participation on campaign since I wouldn't be able to join any campaign in the future.

I was actually thinking of looking at case again and reconsider my feedback and so I asked those questions to look the case again myself. But now that I found that you lying about account being sold, I think there is a good possibility that the account was never sold and there are possibly more things that you guys are hiding. Now I don't look forward to hear anything further this case. Feedback remains....

[You lying about account being sold in 2018]

You used this eth address: 0xA17e6f445Ff8368E30E86dA800265aE39Bd59aAd recently

Quote from: bhabygrim on January 29, 2020, 07:00:59 AM

BTC address : 3R25vLrcEAuLawPMesFYS75tQTv7E6nWfR
ETH address : 0xA17e6f445Ff8368E30E86dA800265aE39Bd59aAd

(Archive: http://archive.is/S2ywo#selection-2669.14-2669.56)

Same address was used in joining the ACT signature campaign before the account was sold as you said in 2018.

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Quote from: bhabygrim on April 06, 2020, 03:47:33 AM

So what's the point even if I give you all the details and answer all of the question the trust rating on this account would still be negative.
So I don't see any point on explaining anymore and this will be my last participation on campaign since I wouldn't be able to join any campaign in the future.

I sure hope that this is the case for both accounts. There are plenty of people that deserve rewards for their honesty and contributions, but sadly many abuse and steal their shares with their abuse.

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Quote from: Avirunes on April 04, 2020, 12:45:35 AM

bhabygrim will be negg'ed for being sold recently.

I don't think there is a scope of change in situation now. I will stay with my feedback perhaps a little bit change in comment later.

Just a quick question to both of you:

1) @xvids What was the timeline you were piloting?
2) @bhabygrim When was the account sold exactly in 2018?

So what's the point even if I give you all the details and answer all of the question the trust rating on this account would still be negative.
So I don't see any point on explaining anymore and this will be my last participation on campaign since I wouldn't be able to join any campaign in the future.

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Quote from: Lauda on April 04, 2020, 10:15:29 AM

Can we please stop the avoiding responsibility game and just admit you have done what the evidence proves you have done? It saves everybody time.

Agree it's hard to defend something like that when the evidence is very clear if you insist defending, people will tagged you as a liar and besides your alibi are so weak against old members.

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Can we please stop the avoiding responsibility game and just admit you have done what the evidence proves you have done? It saves everybody time.

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Quote from: Avirunes on April 04, 2020, 12:45:35 AM

Piloting account and sold account in 2018 are a very bad excuses here and puts in you a worst situation here. There is piloting the account stuff which I don't buy plus on other hand bhabygrim will be negg'ed for being sold recently.

I don't think there is a scope of change in situation now. I will stay with my feedback perhaps a little bit change in comment later.

Just a quick question to both of you:

1) @xvids What was the timeline you were piloting?
2) @bhabygrim When was the account sold exactly in 2018?

I would pilot the account if it would be accepted but if not I would post 1 per day to keep it active it was only in 2017 I couldn't remember the I think it only last until November of 2017.
As I've said I was newbie at that time and used my old BTC wallet so the reward would be directly at my wallet since I was the one working on it.

Quote from: ChuckBuck on April 04, 2020, 01:45:23 AM

LoL, what is the meaning of pilot his account? You are using someone else's account, both of you have been participating in campaigns recently (definitely you understand the rules of the forum at this time - 20/1/2020 & 30/1/2020). You are cheating deliberately in campaigns, still a bad excuse for you Roll Eyes

LOL are you blind I have said it already I was newbie could you look at what year it was and what date you have given and I already sent you the alt-account that I have and stated that when I found out that it was against the forum I didn't used it anymore.

Quote from: ChuckBuck on April 04, 2020, 01:45:23 AM

See what I find here Cheesy

You have 30 merit for a post that's not really good. But more importantly, the user @hui was last active on November 1, 2018, but he was on that topic once in mid-March, and the next time in early April to send merit to you. What's this connection? How do you explain this merit abuse? Both of you are not regular sender/receiver of merit, therefor it is abusive.

LOL how could I sent merits when I don't even have sMerit,
And you could ask Hui about the merit that has been sent to me I did sent a DM when I saw the merit because I know that it could be a problem

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I am not an idiot to ask or beg for 30 merit I am contented with the merit that I have.

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Quote from: xvids on April 03, 2020, 01:44:53 PM

I have given my statement and I've only done it because I was newbie at that time and didn't know that it was against the rules that's why I also use my old BTC address to his account everytime I would pilot his account.

LoL, what is the meaning of pilot his account? You are using someone else's account, both of you have been participating in campaigns recently (definitely you understand the rules of the forum at this time - 20/1/2020 & 30/1/2020). You are cheating deliberately in campaigns, still a bad excuse for you Roll Eyes

See what I find here Cheesy

You have 30 merit for a post that's not really good. But more importantly, the user @hui was last active on November 1, 2018, but he was on that topic once in mid-March, and the next time in early April to send merit to you. What's this connection? How do you explain this merit abuse? Both of you are not regular sender/receiver of merit, therefor it is abusive.

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Piloting account and sold account in 2018 are a very bad excuses here and puts in you a worst situation here. There is piloting the account stuff which I don't buy plus on other hand bhabygrim will be negg'ed for being sold recently.

I don't think there is a scope of change in situation now. I will stay with my feedback perhaps a little bit change in comment later.

Just a quick question to both of you:

1) @xvids What was the timeline you were piloting?
2) @bhabygrim When was the account sold exactly in 2018?

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On behalf of Bhabygrim I don't really know how to defend this since this account was only sold to me by my cousin on late 2018.
I don't know who is xvids and I know that this is hard to believe,
The only proof that I could give you is the campaignthat I had been participating.

Quote from: bhabygrim on March 19, 2020, 12:41:53 AM

#Proof of Authentication
Bitcointalk Username: bhabygrim
Bitcointalk Profile Link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bhabygrim-981553
Telegram Username: @bhabygrim

Which I have been participating for 2 weeks.

Quote from: bhabygrim on April 01, 2020, 07:38:28 AM

#ProofOfAuth
Join Campaign: Signature
Rank: Sr.Member
Merit:257
Current amount of Posts (Including this one):1669
BitcoinTalk Profile Link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bhabygrim-981553;
BitcoinTalk Username: Bhabygrim
Telegram Username: @Bhabygrim
CoinSaga Username: To be followed once the site is fixed.
Bitcoin address: 3R25vLrcEAuLawPMesFYS75tQTv7E6nWfR

Which I joined recently if I was the owner or connected to xvids why would I continue to work for insure if I have my own campaign which have a higher pay rate and direct to my account?

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Quote from: ChuckBuck on April 03, 2020, 12:33:16 PM

The proof is sufficient to prove the connection between the two accounts, in addition, it also shows that you are cheating in two other campaigns. The reason you gave is so bad

it just shows your irresponsibility

It is better to say that it is the account of your family members, siblings, etc. Although it will not help you get rid of this accusation Tongue

I also suspect that this user is cheating with multiple accounts in the campaign he is managing. For someone who is willing to cheat in someone else's campaign, he may cheat more when he has more power.

I have given my statement and I've only done it because I was newbie at that time and didn't know that it was against the rules that's why I also use my old BTC address to his account everytime I would pilot his account.

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Quote from: xvids on April 03, 2020, 11:00:57 AM

Quote from: Avirunes on April 03, 2020, 08:00:02 AM

Seems like confirmed alts from the proofs you have provided but I don't understand why are they dealing here with each other here in this thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ml-discounted-dias-5216604 . Its not like they have left any trust rating to each other and its quite recent as well.

Possibly account sold? Whatever, will leave rating and will wait for explanation.

I know the person who created Bhabygrim account and I did pilot it for sometime back in 2017 because he was busy at work and he was already planning to quit back then.
I did make a transaction with the account but I don't know if it is still the same owner because the last time that we talk he was going to work abroad.
I was still new at the forum at that time and didn't know that it is against the rules.
I only had one alt-account but soon as I found out that it is against the forum I didn't use it again Kimbob as of now I don'thave any connection between bhabygrim.

P.S
The (3QFWnoewJJQBjguo8qQCf3kYdgb19vmeRF) was my old BTC Address that is why I use it everytime I pilot Bhabygrim's account.

The proof is sufficient to prove the connection between the two accounts, in addition, it also shows that you are cheating in two other campaigns. The reason you gave is so bad

it just shows your irresponsibility

It is better to say that it is the account of your family members, siblings, etc. Although it will not help you get rid of this accusation Tongue

I also suspect that this user is cheating with multiple accounts in the campaign he is managing. For someone who is willing to cheat in someone else's campaign, he may cheat more when he has more power.

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Quote from: Avirunes on April 03, 2020, 08:00:02 AM

Seems like confirmed alts from the proofs you have provided but I don't understand why are they dealing here with each other here in this thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ml-discounted-dias-5216604 . Its not like they have left any trust rating to each other and its quite recent as well.

Possibly account sold? Whatever, will leave rating and will wait for explanation.

I know the person who created Bhabygrim account and I did pilot it for sometime back in 2017 because he was busy at work and he was already planning to quit back then.
I did make a transaction with the account but I don't know if it is still the same owner because the last time that we talk he was going to work abroad.
I was still new at the forum at that time and didn't know that it is against the rules.
I only had one alt-account but soon as I found out that it is against the forum I didn't use it again Kimbob as of now I don'thave any connection between bhabygrim.

P.S
The (3QFWnoewJJQBjguo8qQCf3kYdgb19vmeRF) was my old BTC Address that is why I use it everytime I pilot Bhabygrim's account.

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Interesting thing is both of account running campaign currently and both platform name almost similar (coindragon & coinsaga). There is more chance of abuse when managers abused campaign previously.

Archived links not working to me, so here is Archived links.
1. Luckydice Archived
2. David Chaum'XX Campaign Archived

Tagged for now, will reconsider feedback if they could provide reasonable excuses.

Avirunes

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Seems like confirmed alts from the proofs you have provided but I don't understand why are they dealing here with each other here in this thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ml-discounted-dias-5216604 . Its not like they have left any trust rating to each other and its quite recent as well.

Possibly account sold? Whatever, will leave rating and will wait for explanation.

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