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Topic: Coinfire Bitstamp update (Read 7071 times)

member
Activity: 144
Merit: 10
One Token to Move Anything Anywhere
January 12, 2015, 05:17:57 PM
They are operating again. I love Bitstamp.
legendary
Activity: 910
Merit: 1000
January 11, 2015, 08:48:17 PM
who the fuck is sending more money to Bitstamp Hack wallet?

the stupids. there are SO MANY.

someone just sent 70 BTC = 22K  hahahaha

it is SO fishy

https://blockchain.info/address/1L2JsXHPMYuAa9ugvHGLwkdstCPUDemNCf

Final Balance    182.88609398 BTC
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1393
You lead and I'll watch you walk away.
January 08, 2015, 10:10:35 AM
Stop comparing it to MtGox. That just shows, that you guys have no idea, what you are talking about.
I am not 100% sure, but there is no evidence that would suggest, that customers will have to pay for that incident.

In business the customers always pay eventually. When I was operating my business and my electric rate went up or delivery costs went up my prices went up. That's the nature of business and why a McDonalds hamburger isn't still 15 cents.
In your case, it was your future customers that ended up needing to pay higher prices. They were also notified of such changes ahead of time.

In the case of stamp it will be their existing customers that will pay the piper

Ok, so? Someone has to pay and in business it's always the customer.

yes, the customers will pay the price for trusting the Bitstamp's platform.
I am very curious to see if they will really open tomorrow IF not, a big fiasco will begin.

It will be MtGox 2 or reloaded(as you prefer) Smiley


If they do open it will be to the worst bank run in the history of Bitcoin.  Grin


Hold on, elections are coming to Greece in a couple of weeks.

What do elections in Greece have to do with the bitstamp hack?


He mentioned about the worst bank run in the history.

I believe the worst bank run is coming in Greece after electing SYRIZA party.

Explain more?

I said the history of Bitcoin but I understood what you meant.
hero member
Activity: 812
Merit: 587
Space Lord
January 08, 2015, 04:07:10 AM
must be a joke..

a joke of 22,000 USD ?

hacker moving those for fun or stealing more?

Hardly stealing more. It's probably the same coins, being thrown around.
I don't think Bitstamp would leave their hot wallet automation on after the hack.

What automation?

Bitstamp has a hot wallet and it gets compromised: that just means that the hacker gets full control of those addresses. There is no way for Bitstamp to "disable" them, the best they can do is to tell people to stop sending coins to those addresses because a hacer has the private keys.

If a Bitstamp customer is not aware of the current situation and just sends BTC to an old deposit address he has in his address book there's nothing Bitstamo could do. Money would go to the hacker, especially if he is faster that Bitstamp and uses huge transactions fees to beat any double spending attempt by Bitstamp.

I thought only that address was their hot wallet. Nevermind.
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500
January 08, 2015, 03:54:24 AM
Stop comparing it to MtGox. That just shows, that you guys have no idea, what you are talking about.
I am not 100% sure, but there is no evidence that would suggest, that customers will have to pay for that incident.

In business the customers always pay eventually. When I was operating my business and my electric rate went up or delivery costs went up my prices went up. That's the nature of business and why a McDonalds hamburger isn't still 15 cents.
In your case, it was your future customers that ended up needing to pay higher prices. They were also notified of such changes ahead of time.

In the case of stamp it will be their existing customers that will pay the piper

Ok, so? Someone has to pay and in business it's always the customer.

yes, the customers will pay the price for trusting the Bitstamp's platform.
I am very curious to see if they will really open tomorrow IF not, a big fiasco will begin.

It will be MtGox 2 or reloaded(as you prefer) Smiley


If they do open it will be to the worst bank run in the history of Bitcoin.  Grin


Hold on, elections are coming to Greece in a couple of weeks.

What do elections in Greece have to do with the bitstamp hack?


He mentioned about the worst bank run in the history.

I believe the worst bank run is coming in Greece after electing SYRIZA party.

Explain more?
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
January 08, 2015, 12:36:58 AM


would someone really buy that many stolen coins for just 20% off? I doubt it

besides.. he should sign a message with the address if he really controls the keys.
Myself I think it's just a fake. We've had such trolls very often last time.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
January 07, 2015, 11:12:33 PM


would someone really buy that many stolen coins for just 20% off? I doubt it

besides.. he should sign a message with the address if he really controls the keys.
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1004
January 07, 2015, 07:37:17 PM
so, the hacked made another 22K today. Nice day for him Smiley)

and another very sad Bitstamp customer will be added on list
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1018
January 07, 2015, 07:34:12 PM
must be a joke..

a joke of 22,000 USD ?

hacker moving those for fun or stealing more?

Hardly stealing more. It's probably the same coins, being thrown around.
I don't think Bitstamp would leave their hot wallet automation on after the hack.

What automation?

Bitstamp has a hot wallet and it gets compromised: that just means that the hacker gets full control of those addresses. There is no way for Bitstamp to "disable" them, the best they can do is to tell people to stop sending coins to those addresses because a hacer has the private keys.

If a Bitstamp customer is not aware of the current situation and just sends BTC to an old deposit address he has in his address book there's nothing Bitstamo could do. Money would go to the hacker, especially if he is faster that Bitstamp and uses huge transactions fees to beat any double spending attempt by Bitstamp.
hero member
Activity: 812
Merit: 587
Space Lord
January 07, 2015, 07:12:53 PM
must be a joke..

a joke of 22,000 USD ?

hacker moving those for fun or stealing more?

Hardly stealing more. It's probably the same coins, being thrown around.
I don't think Bitstamp would leave their hot wallet automation on after the hack.
legendary
Activity: 910
Merit: 1000
January 07, 2015, 07:07:35 PM
must be a joke..

a joke of 22,000 USD ?

hacker moving those for fun or stealing more?
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1004
January 07, 2015, 07:05:04 PM
must be a joke..

a joke of 22,000 USD ?
legendary
Activity: 910
Merit: 1000
January 07, 2015, 07:03:38 PM
must be a joke..
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1004
January 07, 2015, 06:58:56 PM
who the fuck is sending more money to Bitstamp Hack wallet?

the stupids. there are SO MANY.

someone just sent 70 BTC = 22K  hahahaha

it is SO fishy

https://blockchain.info/address/1L2JsXHPMYuAa9ugvHGLwkdstCPUDemNCf
legendary
Activity: 910
Merit: 1000
January 07, 2015, 06:57:24 PM
who the fuck is sending more money to Bitstamp Hack wallet?

Total Received    18,966.30972286 BTC    
Final Balance    80.79601119 BTC
hero member
Activity: 812
Merit: 587
Space Lord
January 07, 2015, 06:51:38 PM
Stop comparing it to MtGox. That just shows, that you guys have no idea, what you are talking about.
I am not 100% sure, but there is no evidence that would suggest, that customers will have to pay for that incident.

In business the customers always pay eventually. When I was operating my business and my electric rate went up or delivery costs went up my prices went up. That's the nature of business and why a McDonalds hamburger isn't still 15 cents.
In your case, it was your future customers that ended up needing to pay higher prices. They were also notified of such changes ahead of time.

In the case of stamp it will be their existing customers that will pay the piper

Ok, so? Someone has to pay and in business it's always the customer.

yes, the customers will pay the price for trusting the Bitstamp's platform.
I am very curious to see if they will really open tomorrow IF not, a big fiasco will begin.

It will be MtGox 2 or reloaded(as you prefer) Smiley


If they do open it will be to the worst bank run in the history of Bitcoin.  Grin

they lost most of their clients trust. they will reopen to close.

Not necessarily. If they manage to issue a full refund to users, there's not so much trouble. I agree, they have lost users' trust, but I don't see it destroying the exchange completely. It's still the largest non-asian exchange out there.
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1004
January 07, 2015, 06:44:08 PM
Stop comparing it to MtGox. That just shows, that you guys have no idea, what you are talking about.
I am not 100% sure, but there is no evidence that would suggest, that customers will have to pay for that incident.

In business the customers always pay eventually. When I was operating my business and my electric rate went up or delivery costs went up my prices went up. That's the nature of business and why a McDonalds hamburger isn't still 15 cents.
In your case, it was your future customers that ended up needing to pay higher prices. They were also notified of such changes ahead of time.

In the case of stamp it will be their existing customers that will pay the piper

Ok, so? Someone has to pay and in business it's always the customer.

yes, the customers will pay the price for trusting the Bitstamp's platform.
I am very curious to see if they will really open tomorrow IF not, a big fiasco will begin.

It will be MtGox 2 or reloaded(as you prefer) Smiley


If they do open it will be to the worst bank run in the history of Bitcoin.  Grin

they lost most of their clients trust. they will reopen to close.
legendary
Activity: 910
Merit: 1000
January 07, 2015, 04:25:22 PM
Stop comparing it to MtGox. That just shows, that you guys have no idea, what you are talking about.
I am not 100% sure, but there is no evidence that would suggest, that customers will have to pay for that incident.

In business the customers always pay eventually. When I was operating my business and my electric rate went up or delivery costs went up my prices went up. That's the nature of business and why a McDonalds hamburger isn't still 15 cents.
In your case, it was your future customers that ended up needing to pay higher prices. They were also notified of such changes ahead of time.

In the case of stamp it will be their existing customers that will pay the piper

Ok, so? Someone has to pay and in business it's always the customer.

yes, the customers will pay the price for trusting the Bitstamp's platform.
I am very curious to see if they will really open tomorrow IF not, a big fiasco will begin.

It will be MtGox 2 or reloaded(as you prefer) Smiley


If they do open it will be to the worst bank run in the history of Bitcoin.  Grin


Hold on, elections are coming to Greece in a couple of weeks.

What do elections in Greece have to do with the bitstamp hack?

he is probably talking about the "Grexit" scenario in case the left wing "SYRIZA" wins. In that case it's possible that greece exits euro and return to drachmas. So there will be a general european economic instability. That's what every economic analysts say.
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
Decentralized thinking
January 07, 2015, 01:27:39 PM
Stop comparing it to MtGox. That just shows, that you guys have no idea, what you are talking about.
I am not 100% sure, but there is no evidence that would suggest, that customers will have to pay for that incident.

In business the customers always pay eventually. When I was operating my business and my electric rate went up or delivery costs went up my prices went up. That's the nature of business and why a McDonalds hamburger isn't still 15 cents.
In your case, it was your future customers that ended up needing to pay higher prices. They were also notified of such changes ahead of time.

In the case of stamp it will be their existing customers that will pay the piper

Ok, so? Someone has to pay and in business it's always the customer.

yes, the customers will pay the price for trusting the Bitstamp's platform.
I am very curious to see if they will really open tomorrow IF not, a big fiasco will begin.

It will be MtGox 2 or reloaded(as you prefer) Smiley


If they do open it will be to the worst bank run in the history of Bitcoin.  Grin


Hold on, elections are coming to Greece in a couple of weeks.

What do elections in Greece have to do with the bitstamp hack?
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500
January 07, 2015, 01:10:53 PM
Stop comparing it to MtGox. That just shows, that you guys have no idea, what you are talking about.
I am not 100% sure, but there is no evidence that would suggest, that customers will have to pay for that incident.

In business the customers always pay eventually. When I was operating my business and my electric rate went up or delivery costs went up my prices went up. That's the nature of business and why a McDonalds hamburger isn't still 15 cents.
In your case, it was your future customers that ended up needing to pay higher prices. They were also notified of such changes ahead of time.

In the case of stamp it will be their existing customers that will pay the piper

Ok, so? Someone has to pay and in business it's always the customer.

yes, the customers will pay the price for trusting the Bitstamp's platform.
I am very curious to see if they will really open tomorrow IF not, a big fiasco will begin.

It will be MtGox 2 or reloaded(as you prefer) Smiley


If they do open it will be to the worst bank run in the history of Bitcoin.  Grin


Hold on, elections are coming to Greece in a couple of weeks.
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