Topic: CoinLenders Script :: Bitcoin Bank (Borrow+Deposit) Software :: Demo Available - page 32. (Read 111193 times)
November 15, 2013, 04:08:59 AM
It seems like a lot of things we were told about security and the way coinlenders operated was quite fictional. Just like the site. It's going to be an interesting case. I don't know how well "traditional justice" will do here.
November 15, 2013, 04:07:58 AM
What about coins deposited AFTER the hack? Any chance I might get them back?
November 15, 2013, 04:05:22 AM
but the BTC rally is definitely hurting them and us -
But you dont lend BTC to people who are hurt by exchange risk read your description of investments.
ALL CL's liquid coins - we need to know how much that is and how much is loaned out as soon as possible. You should start to loosen your lips on the important information.
But you dont lend BTC to people who are hurt by exchange risk read your description of investments.
ALL CL's liquid coins - we need to know how much that is and how much is loaned out as soon as possible. You should start to loosen your lips on the important information.
November 15, 2013, 03:49:38 AM
All of CL's liquid coins were stored on Inputs -
ALL of CL liquid coin was stored in a hot wallet??
How much??
ALL of CL liquid coin was stored in a hot wallet??
How much??
November 15, 2013, 03:44:25 AM
Update
The situation is I'm facing extreme difficulties in getting most borrowers to honor their obligations - the BTC rally doesn't help. To name a few that have been impossible to reach (when talking about their debt):
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/jordanl-70557
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/graet-17548
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ascension-70541
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ukyo-35121
(Borrowers can deposit to CL via BTC address).
Many security issuers like CreativeX have gone missing, but thankfully in the past days Deprived and arij came back, and Crypto-Trade divs have been successfully paid on their own exchange. ASICMINER isn't doing well which is the collateral for many (defaulted) loans.
The reason why there's no email update is that I'm primarily waiting for other people that are not responsive, which results in having to pass on the non-responsiveness. All of CL's liquid coins were stored on Inputs and what's remaining are debts and assets that took a significant wipe (we still have borrowers that are communicative, thank you!, but the BTC rally is definitely hurting them and us, especially modification proposals).
The situation is I'm facing extreme difficulties in getting most borrowers to honor their obligations - the BTC rally doesn't help. To name a few that have been impossible to reach (when talking about their debt):
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/jordanl-70557
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/graet-17548
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ascension-70541
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ukyo-35121
(Borrowers can deposit to CL via BTC address).
Many security issuers like CreativeX have gone missing, but thankfully in the past days Deprived and arij came back, and Crypto-Trade divs have been successfully paid on their own exchange. ASICMINER isn't doing well which is the collateral for many (defaulted) loans.
The reason why there's no email update is that I'm primarily waiting for other people that are not responsive, which results in having to pass on the non-responsiveness. All of CL's liquid coins were stored on Inputs and what's remaining are debts and assets that took a significant wipe (we still have borrowers that are communicative, thank you!, but the BTC rally is definitely hurting them and us, especially modification proposals).
November 15, 2013, 03:38:14 AM
So he did have a cold wallet with roughly 25% of inputs.io's funds in it.
Why have a cold wallet at all if you keep that low amount in it?
Why have a cold wallet at all if you keep that low amount in it?
link?
Thanks.
According to this: http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/11/inputs/ he had ~1500 in cold wallet. While he had 4100 in hot wallet that was stolen.
November 15, 2013, 03:36:12 AM
So he did have a cold wallet with roughly 25% of inputs.io's funds in it.
Why have a cold wallet at all if you keep that low amount in it?
Why have a cold wallet at all if you keep that low amount in it?
link?
Thanks.
November 15, 2013, 02:24:21 AM
So he did have a cold wallet with roughly 25% of inputs.io's funds in it.
Why have a cold wallet at all if you keep that low amount in it?
Why have a cold wallet at all if you keep that low amount in it?
November 15, 2013, 12:09:46 AM
Yup- gave it a read as well. I'm still a wee bit hopeful but I've learned my lesson by now. And well... TF is risking a lot if he stays quiet, at the very worst moment. I think we'll start seeing something happening anyhow, I just think it'll be a lose-lose for him and for all of us. 
November 15, 2013, 12:00:19 AM
I think it's pretty much leaked in the scammer thread. Close anyway
Oh, I just had a read - Very interesting.
Good luck to everyone involved, I'll write my BTC off now and assume I'm never seeing it again.
link?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--327178
November 14, 2013, 11:54:00 PM
I think it's pretty much leaked in the scammer thread. Close anyway
Oh, I just had a read - Very interesting.
Good luck to everyone involved, I'll write my BTC off now and assume I'm never seeing it again.
link?
November 14, 2013, 11:51:43 PM
I think it's pretty much leaked in the scammer thread. Close anyway
Oh, I just had a read - Very interesting.
Good luck to everyone involved, I'll write my BTC off now and assume I'm never seeing it again.
November 14, 2013, 11:24:48 PM
I've come to the conclusion we are all fucked, I hope TF has tight lipped friends because if his identity is leaked it won't be pretty...
I think it's pretty much leaked in the scammer thread. Close anyway
November 14, 2013, 11:22:35 PM
I've come to the conclusion we are all fucked, I hope TF has tight lipped friends because if his identity is leaked it won't be pretty...
*EDIT* Just to be clear, I wasn't attempting to be threatening but I imagine some people are lot angrier than I am at present
*EDIT* Just to be clear, I wasn't attempting to be threatening but I imagine some people are lot angrier than I am at present
November 14, 2013, 11:11:50 PM
Well, hopefully he's sending that email soon. TradeFortress surely has a lot of explaining to do.
November 14, 2013, 10:22:40 PM
"A small number of Bitcoins belonging to TradeFortress’s other business, CoinLenders, were also taken, TradeFortress said in an email interview (He didn’t provide his real name)."
"“I’m repaying with all of my personal Bitcoins, as well as remaining cold storage coins on Inputs, which adds up to 1540 BTC,” he told WIRED."
http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/11/inputs/
1) A small number??
2) 1540btc won't help much especially if that included the 900btc he already reimbursed. That would leave only 640btc and there are already more than 6800 unreimbursed btc listed at
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3522352
3) Let's hope that story is inaccurate.
"“I’m repaying with all of my personal Bitcoins, as well as remaining cold storage coins on Inputs, which adds up to 1540 BTC,” he told WIRED."
http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/11/inputs/
1) A small number??
2) 1540btc won't help much especially if that included the 900btc he already reimbursed. That would leave only 640btc and there are already more than 6800 unreimbursed btc listed at
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3522352
3) Let's hope that story is inaccurate.
November 14, 2013, 08:18:28 PM
Is not time to start asking for balance sheet of the activity performed by coinlenders (if any), of the loan issud by coinlenders (if any), and all the activity (if any) that has paid for the "interest" on the deposit until now ?
Ofcourse if those information cannot be provided... well, you simply invested in another ponzi scheme.
Ofcourse if those information cannot be provided... well, you simply invested in another ponzi scheme.
November 14, 2013, 08:11:31 PM
I just found out about all of this, I was out of the country. Any word yet? I have over 20 BTC in CL...
November 14, 2013, 06:05:09 PM
Still no email...
November 14, 2013, 12:26:08 PM
fyi, i am still selling my CL balance of 15.5 BTC. I will take any serious offer into consideration, and we can do escrow with a trusted member. PM
Don't expect to sell that for very much. TF might or might not even end up reimbursing everyone.
If he does it might not even be the total amount. So I doubt anyone will purchase a balance that you can't guarantee will be given in full.
well, it comes down to math and expectations right?
if someone thinks that the expected value of the funds there is X then he can pay me X*0,9 or whatever.
If i think that the expected value is lower than X*0,9 than i will accept. Its that easy.
Had one lowball offer until now, but im not selling for cents to the $....
Escrow possible.
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