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001sonkit

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Casper - A failed entrepenuer who looks like Zhou

Quote from: gaston909 on November 08, 2013, 10:43:30 AM

CL got less Net val than the loaned amt - Can you confirm the post for this etc?

Quote from: 001sonkit on November 07, 2013, 07:01:55 AM

Your requested post

*EDIT
What he says is if the NET value that CL owns can't repay all depositors, he will announce.

Extra data for last post

Quote from: 001sonkit on November 07, 2013, 11:39:17 AM

Sometimes your own instincts is the best to listen to.

Quote from: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on April 10, 2013, 06:28:21 AM

...

I also remembered a post that you removed but i can't find it coz it is full of ***** or symbols. Can't find.
I seems pissing here but really, really if you want your future in Bitcoin to be better. Don't do sth for doing it, blindly. Think of what you are doing, listen to your heart.

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Quote from: 001sonkit on November 08, 2013, 10:17:20 AM

anyway, we all hope that TF can pay us back. Lets see if he had a keep his promised in the Chinese Thread too, announce when CL got less Net val than the loaned amt.

second thing, rather not topost in self mod thred despite not really trolling. TF had (and is) a guy who attempt to serves our community (despite he did it wrongly this time). He is respectful to other members (excepts trolls).

But the one that he disrespect the most is himself.

Yes, before he made Inputs.io , he had already been clear, crystal clear about the risk of having a wallet that private key is shared. aka shared wallet or web wallet. He is making this project for making it, while not thinking about the consequences of having 1 vulnerablitiy in wha the made.

The first sence that you got is often right. Trust yourself, respect yourself.

CL got less Net val than the loaned amt - Can you confirm the post for this etc?

001sonkit

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Casper - A failed entrepenuer who looks like Zhou

Quote from: DumbFruit on November 08, 2013, 10:32:28 AM

I've sent an email to Sytech.

Judging from their page, i doubt if they even nkow WTF is Bitcoin. I am not a master on this aspect, but this is my first impression on it.

*EDIT You are welcome to consult FBI and raid him like Kim Dotcom or DPR if you would like your (soon will be) coins to end up in damn America Government's hand

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I've sent an email to Sytech.

wayner

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Quote from: funkymunky on November 08, 2013, 10:06:36 AM

Quote from: ninjaboon on November 07, 2013, 04:39:03 PM

Quote from: CryptoUser01 on November 07, 2013, 03:24:18 PM

I had a little over 3.4 in CL. The CDs still show on my page. Mine are spread into 3 CDs about a week apart. I've got one coming due next week. I'll withdraw if I can but somehow I don't think that will happen.

TradeFortress seemed like an upstanding enough person and I started very small and got braver over time. I'm disappointed as it does not seem the promises of security were kept. I hope that some of this can be rectified.

I wonder if there is any police investigation. I noticed this UK based company http://www.sytech-consultants.com/ that claim to do Digital Forensics on bitcoin.

http://www.sytech-consultants.com/blog/2013/worlds-first-stolen-bitcoin-tracing-service-and-bitcoin-data-recovery-high-profile-digital-forensic-services-company-sytech-embraces-bitcoin

Drop Simon an email there.

He'll get back in touch with you about this as he's keen to help out in the Bitcoin world:

[email protected]

So systech started an investigation on this? Nice to hear if so.

001sonkit

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Casper - A failed entrepenuer who looks like Zhou

anyway, we all hope that TF can pay us back. Lets see if he had a keep his promised in the Chinese Thread too, announce when CL got less Net val than the loaned amt.

second thing, rather not topost in self mod thred despite not really trolling. TF had (and is) a guy who attempt to serves our community (despite he did it wrongly this time). He is respectful to other members (excepts trolls).

But the one that he disrespect the most is himself.

Yes, before he made Inputs.io , he had already been clear, crystal clear about the risk of having a wallet that private key is shared. aka shared wallet or web wallet. He is making this project for making it, while not thinking about the consequences of having 1 vulnerablitiy in wha the made.

The first sence that you got is often right. Trust yourself, respect yourself.

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Quote from: ninjaboon on November 07, 2013, 04:39:03 PM

Quote from: CryptoUser01 on November 07, 2013, 03:24:18 PM

I had a little over 3.4 in CL. The CDs still show on my page. Mine are spread into 3 CDs about a week apart. I've got one coming due next week. I'll withdraw if I can but somehow I don't think that will happen.

TradeFortress seemed like an upstanding enough person and I started very small and got braver over time. I'm disappointed as it does not seem the promises of security were kept. I hope that some of this can be rectified.

I wonder if there is any police investigation. I noticed this UK based company http://www.sytech-consultants.com/ that claim to do Digital Forensics on bitcoin.

http://www.sytech-consultants.com/blog/2013/worlds-first-stolen-bitcoin-tracing-service-and-bitcoin-data-recovery-high-profile-digital-forensic-services-company-sytech-embraces-bitcoin

Drop Simon an email there.

He'll get back in touch with you about this as he's keen to help out in the Bitcoin world:

[email protected]

C10H15N

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It's very simple:
Initial CD Investment: BTC6.0
Amount owed: BTC6.28562606

The obligation will stand until P&I has been paid as agreed.
Direct communication with your investors about exactly where you stand is the honorable thing to do.

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R.I.P Silk Road 1.0

Quote from: ChaosFox on November 08, 2013, 09:33:34 AM

Between getting my money now and risking a "haircut" or waiting until later for a full refund, I think the sooner I have my Bitcoin back, the better, so as long as the deduction is not so outrageous. But not everybody thinks like that, so it's something he should ask personally to each user as soon as possible.

I agree. I had no substantial amount in CL but will that mean that I'm I still need to take a cut if I were to demand my money ASAP? I hope not.

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Between getting my money now and risking a "haircut" or waiting until later for a full refund, I think the sooner I have my Bitcoin back, the better, so as long as the deduction is not so outrageous. But not everybody thinks like that, so it's something he should ask personally to each user as soon as possible.

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Quote from: wuala on November 08, 2013, 09:16:33 AM

Quote from: 001sonkit on November 08, 2013, 07:23:30 AM

TF is quite trustworthy imo. I know CL would have to take a hair cut (Expecting at least 10% cut). I am not much worrying that TF is not paying us back. And if CL is still available for investing and if i wait a month or 2 i can get back in full value, i'd choose it.

The thing that worrying me is that with all the Mt. Dox, he might be arrested one day IF any clues were given and found his real identity. This would result in he having no access of his coins and potentially like DPR case. Having all reamining coins/asset seized

If he says (maybe in this forum) that if we wait, we could espect to have a full 100% refund, for example in 1-2 month, I would wait.

But only if there is a word of TF...

Better for him (less withdrawals), better for us (high refund).

Agreed.

Given the nature of his business, loaning btc, earning interest, assets etc. He should perhaps take notice of the community and look at his options. Some people will want instant money now, and perhaps they should take a hair cut if they so desire.

Some people will be willing to let him continue his interest making activities (minus the use of inputs.io) and give him the opportunities to make some of the money back.

Mass withdrawal of funds reduces the liquidity for interest making exercies. It's not good for him, or his users.

Maybe he has already made his mind up, but he should engage his users and not only announce their fate when he is ready.

*Assuming he can keep a level head and not take any further large risks to make these interest amounts...

wayner

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Quote from: bradyon on November 08, 2013, 08:05:19 AM

Quote from: 001sonkit on November 08, 2013, 07:23:30 AM

TF is quite trustworthy imo. I know CL would have to take a hair cut (Expecting at least 10% cut). I am not much worrying that TF is not paying us back. And if CL is still available for investing and if i wait a month or 2 i can get back in full value, i'd choose it.

The thing that worrying me is that with all the Mt. Dox, he might be arrested one day IF any clues were given and found his real identity. This would result in he having no access of his coins and potentially like DPR case. Having all reamining coins/asset seized

Totally agree.

Is there any way to discourage an immediate action that could end in a bad way for the ones he owe to?

Are you serious? He should take the blame and should done so 2 weeks ago, for me anything that he says is mood from this point, actions speak louder then words. And i dont see him acting upon this.
He allready sat 2 weeks in shock, what you think in the next 2 weeks will happen? He just hopes that everything sets off and calms down. Not more. If he would get anyone involved into a serious investigation he would sayed so, and people that would been part of it either. Happened when bitcoin24 funds where seized, didnt took Simons lawyers long to give an full explanation.

Quote from: wuala on November 08, 2013, 09:16:33 AM

Quote from: 001sonkit on November 08, 2013, 07:23:30 AM

TF is quite trustworthy imo. I know CL would have to take a hair cut (Expecting at least 10% cut). I am not much worrying that TF is not paying us back. And if CL is still available for investing and if i wait a month or 2 i can get back in full value, i'd choose it.

The thing that worrying me is that with all the Mt. Dox, he might be arrested one day IF any clues were given and found his real identity. This would result in he having no access of his coins and potentially like DPR case. Having all reamining coins/asset seized

If he says (maybe in this forum) that if we wait, we could espect to have a full 100% refund, for example in 1-2 month, I would wait.

But only if there is a word of TF...

Better for him (less withdrawals), better for us (high refund).

I would not trust his word anymore, i even add up, i would not trust the majority of hero/vip/insertyourfavouritescammertitle members of this forum anymore, as they are to blame why so many blindly followed him. Especially the defaulttrust.

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Quote from: 001sonkit on November 08, 2013, 07:23:30 AM

TF is quite trustworthy imo. I know CL would have to take a hair cut (Expecting at least 10% cut). I am not much worrying that TF is not paying us back. And if CL is still available for investing and if i wait a month or 2 i can get back in full value, i'd choose it.

The thing that worrying me is that with all the Mt. Dox, he might be arrested one day IF any clues were given and found his real identity. This would result in he having no access of his coins and potentially like DPR case. Having all reamining coins/asset seized

If he says (maybe in this forum) that if we wait, we could espect to have a full 100% refund, for example in 1-2 month, I would wait.

But only if there is a word of TF...

Better for him (less withdrawals), better for us (high refund).

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TradeFortress has to pay his debitors

Quote from: 001sonkit on November 08, 2013, 07:23:30 AM

TF is quite trustworthy imo. I know CL would have to take a hair cut (Expecting at least 10% cut). I am not much worrying that TF is not paying us back. And if CL is still available for investing and if i wait a month or 2 i can get back in full value, i'd choose it.

The thing that worrying me is that with all the Mt. Dox, he might be arrested one day IF any clues were given and found his real identity. This would result in he having no access of his coins and potentially like DPR case. Having all reamining coins/asset seized

Totally agree.

Is there any way to discourage an immediate action that could end in a bad way for the ones he owe to?

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Quote from: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on November 08, 2013, 01:43:17 AM

All CL users with a balance (in the form of CDs, balances, withdrawals, to Inputs that weren't credited) will receive an email update within a week.

Sounds good.
I wouldn't want to visit http://bitcoinsingapore2013.com/
empty handed.

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The thing is, what happens to all the BTC currently loaned ? TF doesn't have them. Will they ever be repaid back or will everyone just default on their loans ? (Were there actually that many customers to sustain CL's high interest rates or was it just a ponzi from the start ?)

If people pay back their loans, then there is not so much to worry about - just that it will take time to get all your coins back (ie bank run).
If not, TF is insolvent.

001sonkit

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Casper - A failed entrepenuer who looks like Zhou

TF is quite trustworthy imo. I know CL would have to take a hair cut (Expecting at least 10% cut). I am not much worrying that TF is not paying us back. And if CL is still available for investing and if i wait a month or 2 i can get back in full value, i'd choose it.

The thing that worrying me is that with all the Mt. Dox, he might be arrested one day IF any clues were given and found his real identity. This would result in he having no access of his coins and potentially like DPR case. Having all reamining coins/asset seized

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Quote from: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on November 08, 2013, 01:43:17 AM

All CL users with a balance (in the form of CDs, balances, withdrawals, to Inputs that weren't credited) will receive an email update within a week.

Thanks for the reply. Hope that email update indeed comes and CL users get credited. Though given it's likely you'll use the "fictional data" claim to wriggle out of court... well, we'll have to see. Just prove some of us wrong.

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Bitgoblin

posting this here because the other one is a self-moderated thread : )

Quote from: wiser on November 07, 2013, 12:25:12 AM

Quote from: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on November 06, 2013, 11:56:55 PM

Inputs is dead and you'll need to find a new service provider. I don't recommend storing any Bitcoins accessible on computers connected to the internet.

What about CoinLenders? Is that dead too?

It's been dead for long, in case you didn't notice.

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Due to growing regulatory attention on Bitcoin, CoinLenders regrettably has decided to close it's service. As detailed on the site, everything was fictional anyway.

We're now selling the CoinLenders script and we have a fully functional demo instance available here. It has been filled with real world data, take a look!

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Bitgoblin

A few days ago (31 Oct, 22:03) he deleted this post of mine from Inputs.io thread:

Quote from: Mooshire on October 31, 2013, 09:55:51 AM

Very disappointed. Logged in today, and didnt even need my 2FA. I chose inputs because of the security, and now youre just disabling part of it without asking anyone. Is this a bug? I put in my username and pass, it took me to the GPG screen and logged me in. Not cool.

consider yourself "lucky" he didn't suddenly decide his service was closed down and was now officially a "demo with real world data".

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