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February 10, 2018, 10:42:07 PM
According to coins.ph na magkakaroon daw ng maintenance ang coins.ph, siguro baka ito na yung official update nila regarding sa implementation ng ETH Wallet. Ito talaga yunh pinakahihintay ko kasi hindi na natin kailangan ibenta ang mga ERC20 into Bitcoin, directly nang maitatransfer ito sa coins.ph
Here is the link to their post.
https://www.facebook.com/coinsph/posts/1396516823811403

Ito nga ren yung isa kong gusto itanong sa kanila. Iaadapt rin kaya nila ang mga smart contracts? Like ERC-20 coins. Sana, pero satingin ko hindi pa. ETH lang talaga ang iaadopt nila. Pero tignan naten. Excited nadin ako sa update.

Coins.ph will surely just works like Coinbase. We can only use it as ETH wallet and not for Token and Smart Contracts. So they should properly add those lines in the fine print and warned users not to send erc20 token to coins.ph eth wallet address.

Eth lang yan boss. D ata natin pwd magagamit coins like storing our altcoins gaya sa mew natin. Speaking of eth sa coins, bat may fee? Mag gegenerate lng naman ng eth wallet tas may fee? Parang ang unfair naman nun.
Yep yan din nasa isip ko bat may fee yung eth wallet nang coins.ph . Sabi nila para naman daw yan sa eth network at wala silang makukuhang profit dun eeeh. Atleast ngayon may eth wallet na ang coins.ph , pwede na tayo makabili nang ethereum rekta sa php wallet natin.

Walang bayad ang pag generate ng ETH address at hindi mo kailangan mag connect agad sa network kung address palang generate mo. Mag connect ka lang sa network pag mag transact ka. Si bakit kaya may bayad sa coins.ph? At anong network fee yung sinasabi nila kung wala pa naman transaction. Dapat kasi malinaw explanation nila. Maliit lang na amount P20 pero kung sa million users yan medyo malaki ding amount yan.
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February 10, 2018, 11:12:34 AM
According to coins.ph na magkakaroon daw ng maintenance ang coins.ph, siguro baka ito na yung official update nila regarding sa implementation ng ETH Wallet. Ito talaga yunh pinakahihintay ko kasi hindi na natin kailangan ibenta ang mga ERC20 into Bitcoin, directly nang maitatransfer ito sa coins.ph
Here is the link to their post.
https://www.facebook.com/coinsph/posts/1396516823811403

Ito nga ren yung isa kong gusto itanong sa kanila. Iaadapt rin kaya nila ang mga smart contracts? Like ERC-20 coins. Sana, pero satingin ko hindi pa. ETH lang talaga ang iaadopt nila. Pero tignan naten. Excited nadin ako sa update.

Coins.ph will surely just works like Coinbase. We can only use it as ETH wallet and not for Token and Smart Contracts. So they should properly add those lines in the fine print and warned users not to send erc20 token to coins.ph eth wallet address.

Eth lang yan boss. D ata natin pwd magagamit coins like storing our altcoins gaya sa mew natin. Speaking of eth sa coins, bat may fee? Mag gegenerate lng naman ng eth wallet tas may fee? Parang ang unfair naman nun.
Yep yan din nasa isip ko bat may fee yung eth wallet nang coins.ph . Sabi nila para naman daw yan sa eth network at wala silang makukuhang profit dun eeeh. Atleast ngayon may eth wallet na ang coins.ph , pwede na tayo makabili nang ethereum rekta sa php wallet natin.
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February 10, 2018, 10:47:17 AM


Salamat sa update boss arielbit. Di naman siguro mapapansin din kung less than Php100k lang din iwiwithdraw ko. Laking bagay ng update mo. Smiley



According to coins.ph na magkakaroon daw ng maintenance ang coins.ph, siguro baka ito na yung official update nila regarding sa implementation ng ETH Wallet. Ito talaga yunh pinakahihintay ko kasi hindi na natin kailangan ibenta ang mga ERC20 into Bitcoin, directly nang maitatransfer ito sa coins.ph
Here is the link to their post.
https://www.facebook.com/coinsph/posts/1396516823811403

Naku wag sobra ang expectation at tingin ko di yan mangyayari. Medyo pangit na sa akin pag pati ERC20 tokens tatanggapin pa nila. Saka walang mapapala ang coins.ph dyan at mas mtrabaho pa. Ok na yang ETH wallet lang. Di advisable gumamit ng exchange wallet para sa ERC20 distribution. Sige ka GG mga tokens mo at malabo yan makatanggap ng mga bonuses at dividends. Tapos di pa natin alam ang fees pag magtratransfer ng ERC20 tokens from exchange to exchange.

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February 10, 2018, 09:58:01 AM
According to coins.ph na magkakaroon daw ng maintenance ang coins.ph, siguro baka ito na yung official update nila regarding sa implementation ng ETH Wallet. Ito talaga yunh pinakahihintay ko kasi hindi na natin kailangan ibenta ang mga ERC20 into Bitcoin, directly nang maitatransfer ito sa coins.ph
Here is the link to their post.
https://www.facebook.com/coinsph/posts/1396516823811403

Ito nga ren yung isa kong gusto itanong sa kanila. Iaadapt rin kaya nila ang mga smart contracts? Like ERC-20 coins. Sana, pero satingin ko hindi pa. ETH lang talaga ang iaadopt nila. Pero tignan naten. Excited nadin ako sa update.

Coins.ph will surely just works like Coinbase. We can only use it as ETH wallet and not for Token and Smart Contracts. So they should properly add those lines in the fine print and warned users not to send erc20 token to coins.ph eth wallet address.

Eth lang yan boss. D ata natin pwd magagamit coins like storing our altcoins gaya sa mew natin. Speaking of eth sa coins, bat may fee? Mag gegenerate lng naman ng eth wallet tas may fee? Parang ang unfair naman nun.
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February 10, 2018, 07:03:14 AM
According to coins.ph na magkakaroon daw ng maintenance ang coins.ph, siguro baka ito na yung official update nila regarding sa implementation ng ETH Wallet. Ito talaga yunh pinakahihintay ko kasi hindi na natin kailangan ibenta ang mga ERC20 into Bitcoin, directly nang maitatransfer ito sa coins.ph
Here is the link to their post.
https://www.facebook.com/coinsph/posts/1396516823811403

Ito nga ren yung isa kong gusto itanong sa kanila. Iaadapt rin kaya nila ang mga smart contracts? Like ERC-20 coins. Sana, pero satingin ko hindi pa. ETH lang talaga ang iaadopt nila. Pero tignan naten. Excited nadin ako sa update.

Coins.ph will surely just works like Coinbase. We can only use it as ETH wallet and not for Token and Smart Contracts. So they should properly add those lines in the fine print and warned users not to send erc20 token to coins.ph eth wallet address.
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February 10, 2018, 06:42:29 AM
According to coins.ph na magkakaroon daw ng maintenance ang coins.ph, siguro baka ito na yung official update nila regarding sa implementation ng ETH Wallet. Ito talaga yunh pinakahihintay ko kasi hindi na natin kailangan ibenta ang mga ERC20 into Bitcoin, directly nang maitatransfer ito sa coins.ph
Here is the link to their post.
https://www.facebook.com/coinsph/posts/1396516823811403

Ito nga ren yung isa kong gusto itanong sa kanila. Iaadapt rin kaya nila ang mga smart contracts? Like ERC-20 coins. Sana, pero satingin ko hindi pa. ETH lang talaga ang iaadopt nila. Pero tignan naten. Excited nadin ako sa update.
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February 10, 2018, 06:15:43 AM
According to coins.ph na magkakaroon daw ng maintenance ang coins.ph, siguro baka ito na yung official update nila regarding sa implementation ng ETH Wallet. Ito talaga yunh pinakahihintay ko kasi hindi na natin kailangan ibenta ang mga ERC20 into Bitcoin, directly nang maitatransfer ito sa coins.ph
Here is the link to their post.
https://www.facebook.com/coinsph/posts/1396516823811403

Keep in mind that they will only accept Ethereum transaction and we need to sell our tokens first to ETH before we can transfer/Buy/Sell into the coins.ph platform.
That's a good news to us using coins.ph wallet, we have other option in currency that we might transfer into fiat using our coins.ph wallet, before if we have an ethereum we used https://shapeshift.io to convert ethereum to bitcoin and big fees was there. Not only bitcoin and also ethereum it is very nice platform coins.ph a multi wallet which is you can stored altcoins and bitcoins.
Thanks for sharing this links it is very informative. Grin
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February 10, 2018, 05:14:48 AM
According to coins.ph na magkakaroon daw ng maintenance ang coins.ph, siguro baka ito na yung official update nila regarding sa implementation ng ETH Wallet. Ito talaga yunh pinakahihintay ko kasi hindi na natin kailangan ibenta ang mga ERC20 into Bitcoin, directly nang maitatransfer ito sa coins.ph
Here is the link to their post.
https://www.facebook.com/coinsph/posts/1396516823811403

Keep in mind that they will only accept Ethereum transaction and we need to sell our tokens first to ETH before we can transfer/Buy/Sell into the coins.ph platform.
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February 10, 2018, 05:07:29 AM
According to coins.ph na magkakaroon daw ng maintenance ang coins.ph, siguro baka ito na yung official update nila regarding sa implementation ng ETH Wallet. Ito talaga yunh pinakahihintay ko kasi hindi na natin kailangan ibenta ang mga ERC20 into Ethereum and finally into Bitcoin, directly nang maitatransfer ito sa coins.ph
Here is the link to their post.
https://www.facebook.com/coinsph/posts/1396516823811403
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February 10, 2018, 04:58:31 AM
Totoo bang magkakaron narin ng ETH wallet ang coinsph? kung totoo malaking bagay yon. hindi na kelangan mag palipat lipat. sana nga

Its a big leap towards crypto awareness if they truly add Ethereum on their platform, i hope it will be sooner since many people wants to start engaging in trading crypto currency the only thing that stopping them is the high transaction fees of bitcoin.
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February 10, 2018, 03:41:49 AM
Totoo bang magkakaron narin ng ETH wallet ang coinsph? kung totoo malaking bagay yon. hindi na kelangan mag palipat lipat. sana nga
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February 10, 2018, 02:53:36 AM
may plano ba coinsph na mag add ng altcoins in the future like eth and ltc.. padadame na ng padame ang mga erc20 smart contracts on eth platform na nagbibigay ng mataas na demand ng eth. napaka inconvenient kasi na need pa naten bumili muna ng btc and e transfer sa exchange para makabili nmn ng eth.  not to mention ang napaka taas na fees on bitcoin blockchain.

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Hi almost,

I wanted to reach out on behalf of the Coins.ph team and thank you for being one of our most active Digital Currency users last month.  As a token (haha!) of our appreciation, we would like to invite you to be one of the first customers to test the new Ethereum wallet in our Android app.

For months now, our customers have been asking to buy and sell Ethereum (ETH) on Coins.ph, and our team has been listening closely. We’re excited to unveil the new Ethereum wallet on the Coins.ph Android app, which lets you buy, sell, send, and receive ETH.

ETH is a Digital Asset, like Bitcoin, that enables people to transact globally and create smart contracts on the Ethereum Blockchain. We’re very excited to have you test it out and hear your thoughts about this new feature.

To access your wallet, respond directly to this email with the email address used for your Google Play Account. This email address may be different than the email address used for your Coins.ph account.

Once our team adds your Google Play Account to the product testing list, we will send you a link to opt-into the product testing. This will allow you to participate in the test, update your app, and access your Ethereum Wallet.

If you have any questions or feedback, please check out our FAQ and do not hesitate to contact us at [email protected]. Thanks and we hope you enjoy your new Ethereum Wallet!

Sincerely,
The Coins.ph Team"

eto yung binigay na update link saken try nyo kung gagana senyo.
https://play.google.com/apps/testing/asia.coins.mobile


wow ang bilis ah.. i was one of the selected to receive an email kung payag ba daw ako maging 1st tester na magparticipate sa pag gamit ng eth wallet sa coinph. im currently using it now as of this writing. so far smooth nmn sya and mababa rin ang spread ng price. great job coinsph team.

kailan po ba ang main launching ng eth sa coins ph wallet? Excited nako dito at salamat naman at ea add na ng coins.ph ang ethereum. Maganda eto kasi derekta na ang pag convert ng ethereum into php wallet at vise versa. Thank you coins.ph

Wow! this is great news. Matagal ko nareng tinatanong sa kanila itong pag add ng ETH. Ang sinagot lang naman nila ay we're looking forward to this. Pero nagulat ako na agad-agad ay gagawin nila ito. The best paren talaga ang Coins.ph. Parang ang sarap mag apply sa kanila ngayon as blockchain programmer Cheesy

Edit: Kasama ba dito ang pag access and transfer naren ng mga Tokens? Or interactions with smart contracts?
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February 10, 2018, 01:43:24 AM
may plano ba coinsph na mag add ng altcoins in the future like eth and ltc.. padadame na ng padame ang mga erc20 smart contracts on eth platform na nagbibigay ng mataas na demand ng eth. napaka inconvenient kasi na need pa naten bumili muna ng btc and e transfer sa exchange para makabili nmn ng eth.  not to mention ang napaka taas na fees on bitcoin blockchain.

"

Hi almost,

I wanted to reach out on behalf of the Coins.ph team and thank you for being one of our most active Digital Currency users last month.  As a token (haha!) of our appreciation, we would like to invite you to be one of the first customers to test the new Ethereum wallet in our Android app.

For months now, our customers have been asking to buy and sell Ethereum (ETH) on Coins.ph, and our team has been listening closely. We’re excited to unveil the new Ethereum wallet on the Coins.ph Android app, which lets you buy, sell, send, and receive ETH.

ETH is a Digital Asset, like Bitcoin, that enables people to transact globally and create smart contracts on the Ethereum Blockchain. We’re very excited to have you test it out and hear your thoughts about this new feature.

To access your wallet, respond directly to this email with the email address used for your Google Play Account. This email address may be different than the email address used for your Coins.ph account.

Once our team adds your Google Play Account to the product testing list, we will send you a link to opt-into the product testing. This will allow you to participate in the test, update your app, and access your Ethereum Wallet.

If you have any questions or feedback, please check out our FAQ and do not hesitate to contact us at [email protected]. Thanks and we hope you enjoy your new Ethereum Wallet!

Sincerely,
The Coins.ph Team"

eto yung binigay na update link saken try nyo kung gagana senyo.
https://play.google.com/apps/testing/asia.coins.mobile


wow ang bilis ah.. i was one of the selected to receive an email kung payag ba daw ako maging 1st tester na magparticipate sa pag gamit ng eth wallet sa coinph. im currently using it now as of this writing. so far smooth nmn sya and mababa rin ang spread ng price. great job coinsph team.

kailan po ba ang main launching ng eth sa coins ph wallet? Excited nako dito at salamat naman at ea add na ng coins.ph ang ethereum. Maganda eto kasi derekta na ang pag convert ng ethereum into php wallet at vise versa. Thank you coins.ph
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February 10, 2018, 12:50:07 AM
Cleared na ang bank ko for crypto trading.....coins.ph ikaw na lang ang bottle neck  Cheesy sana solusyonan ninyo ito..
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February 10, 2018, 12:44:14 AM
update regarding sa bank inquiry...

nagtanong sila ng source of funds, parang yung questions din ng interview ng coins.ph(yung pinaka simulang source ng pera), tapos update ng information sa account ko....nakalagay na dun "crypto currency trader" ..... the rest ng usapan ay about sa curiosities nila kung paano mag makapasok sa bitcoin at pagbili, meron ngang coins.ph app yung isang employee na nagpa guide pa sa akin na kung paano mag cash in at cashout.

base sa experience ko, huwag matakot ang mga legit traders.

Thanks sa update. Balak ko mag open sa BPI.

So paano yan sir. Tuloy ka pa rin sa Php400k withdrawal araw araw ng wala ng problema? Saka medyo malayo na yata ibabackread ko kung sakaling nasagot niyo na, ilang araw po kayo nagwithdraw ng malaki bago kayo tinawagan ng banko?

natapos ko na yung 400k a day bago sa araw ng interview..more than 2 weeks, saka pwede rin ang naka trigger ay yung (friday-saturday-sunday) or (saturday-sunday-monday morning) na cashout tapos papasok sa bank account mo yun lahat before monday 6pm, eh di 1.2M yun in a day (tatlong 400k deposits).

tapos na yung cashout ko, yung coins.ph naman ang issue dahil parang hindi naapprove ang custom limit ko eh, end of december/early january pa ang application ko, wala man lang message kung pasado o hindi....

@coins.ph

meron akong malinis na ilang Milyon sa banko, hindi yan money laundering...pwede ako magsubmit ng bank statement na marami akong pera pang bitcoin...will you approve? enough na ba yun?

hello po boss, may tanong lang po ako, pwde pong pa quote ng ifrst post nyu regarding this matter para po masundan ko ang conversation. d ko po kasi mkita, parang natabunan na. and sa BPI po ba ito?  isa pong concern ko is, tatanggapin po ba talaga nila kung sasabihin mong trader ka? madami din kasi nag sasabi na di daw pwd yan gawing rason eh.

Bpi bank

May pakiramdam ako na may factor din kung magiistricto ang mga tao sa specific branch o hindi, alam ko mas gusto nga ng bangko yung iniimbak mo ang pera sa bank nila...

In my case tinanggap nila, pina update lang ako ng information kasi hindi naman crypto currency trading ang source of fund na nilagay ko noong inopen ko yung account several years ago.
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February 09, 2018, 10:53:54 PM
update regarding sa bank inquiry...

nagtanong sila ng source of funds, parang yung questions din ng interview ng coins.ph(yung pinaka simulang source ng pera), tapos update ng information sa account ko....nakalagay na dun "crypto currency trader" ..... the rest ng usapan ay about sa curiosities nila kung paano mag makapasok sa bitcoin at pagbili, meron ngang coins.ph app yung isang employee na nagpa guide pa sa akin na kung paano mag cash in at cashout.

base sa experience ko, huwag matakot ang mga legit traders.

Thanks sa update. Balak ko mag open sa BPI.

So paano yan sir. Tuloy ka pa rin sa Php400k withdrawal araw araw ng wala ng problema? Saka medyo malayo na yata ibabackread ko kung sakaling nasagot niyo na, ilang araw po kayo nagwithdraw ng malaki bago kayo tinawagan ng banko?

natapos ko na yung 400k a day bago sa araw ng interview..more than 2 weeks, saka pwede rin ang naka trigger ay yung (friday-saturday-sunday) or (saturday-sunday-monday morning) na cashout tapos papasok sa bank account mo yun lahat before monday 6pm, eh di 1.2M yun in a day (tatlong 400k deposits).

tapos na yung cashout ko, yung coins.ph naman ang issue dahil parang hindi naapprove ang custom limit ko eh, end of december/early january pa ang application ko, wala man lang message kung pasado o hindi....

@coins.ph

meron akong malinis na ilang Milyon sa banko, hindi yan money laundering...pwede ako magsubmit ng bank statement na marami akong pera pang bitcoin...will you approve? enough na ba yun?

hello po boss, may tanong lang po ako, pwde pong pa quote ng ifrst post nyu regarding this matter para po masundan ko ang conversation. d ko po kasi mkita, parang natabunan na. and sa BPI po ba ito?  isa pong concern ko is, tatanggapin po ba talaga nila kung sasabihin mong trader ka? madami din kasi nag sasabi na di daw pwd yan gawing rason eh.
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February 09, 2018, 10:47:37 PM
Mayroon po akong consern, madali lang po bang magpa level 3 verification sa coinsph? Kasi ubos na po ang monthly limit ko, gusto ko sanang magwithdraw kaso ang baba lang ng limit.
Nung unang nagtry ako magpa level three ang ginamit ko ung Barangay Clearance pero nireject nila kasi kulang ung address ko. Sa ngaun, hinihintay ko na lang ung transcript of records ko galing sa university kung saan ako naggraduate at un ang gagamitin ko. Madali lang magpa level 3 kung meron ka nang requirements.
Ahh, ganun po ba. Barangay clearance lang din po ang meron ako pero itry ko po kasi may nagsasabi na level 3 sila gamit lang ang barangay clearance.
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February 09, 2018, 10:24:09 PM
Magagamit po ba ang coins.ph bilang wallet sa bitcointalk? Dahil sa pagiging baguhan ko po dito ay sinunod ko ang aking kaibigan na gumawa ng bukod na wallet ( MyEtherWallet ), ngunit sa kadahilanang sanay akong gumamit ng coins.ph ay gusto kong alamin kung posible bang magamit ito bilang wallet dito forum na ito. Salamat sa pag sagot at sana po ay walang manlait, baguhan lamang po ako.

UU yan ang wallet ng karamihan d2 sa pinas, kaya lng di pa nag bubukas ng etherwallet ang coin.ph, they only accept (BTC)-BITCOIN. if mag bounty ka using coin.ph wallet select po ikaw ng ang payment is Bitcoin.
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February 09, 2018, 08:16:58 PM
update regarding sa bank inquiry...

nagtanong sila ng source of funds, parang yung questions din ng interview ng coins.ph(yung pinaka simulang source ng pera), tapos update ng information sa account ko....nakalagay na dun "crypto currency trader" ..... the rest ng usapan ay about sa curiosities nila kung paano mag makapasok sa bitcoin at pagbili, meron ngang coins.ph app yung isang employee na nagpa guide pa sa akin na kung paano mag cash in at cashout.

base sa experience ko, huwag matakot ang mga legit traders.

Thanks sa update. Balak ko mag open sa BPI.

So paano yan sir. Tuloy ka pa rin sa Php400k withdrawal araw araw ng wala ng problema? Saka medyo malayo na yata ibabackread ko kung sakaling nasagot niyo na, ilang araw po kayo nagwithdraw ng malaki bago kayo tinawagan ng banko?

natapos ko na yung 400k a day bago sa araw ng interview..more than 2 weeks, saka pwede rin ang naka trigger ay yung (friday-saturday-sunday) or (saturday-sunday-monday morning) na cashout tapos papasok sa bank account mo yun lahat before monday 6pm, eh di 1.2M yun in a day (tatlong 400k deposits).

tapos na yung cashout ko, yung coins.ph naman ang issue dahil parang hindi naapprove ang custom limit ko eh, end of december/early january pa ang application ko, wala man lang message kung pasado o hindi....

@coins.ph

meron akong malinis na ilang Milyon sa banko, hindi yan money laundering...pwede ako magsubmit ng bank statement na marami akong pera pang bitcoin...will you approve? enough na ba yun?
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February 09, 2018, 07:00:52 PM
update regarding sa bank inquiry...

nagtanong sila ng source of funds, parang yung questions din ng interview ng coins.ph(yung pinaka simulang source ng pera), tapos update ng information sa account ko....nakalagay na dun "crypto currency trader" ..... the rest ng usapan ay about sa curiosities nila kung paano mag makapasok sa bitcoin at pagbili, meron ngang coins.ph app yung isang employee na nagpa guide pa sa akin na kung paano mag cash in at cashout.

base sa experience ko, huwag matakot ang mga legit traders.

Thanks sa update. Balak ko mag open sa BPI.

So paano yan sir. Tuloy ka pa rin sa Php400k withdrawal araw araw ng wala ng problema? Saka medyo malayo na yata ibabackread ko kung sakaling nasagot niyo na, ilang araw po kayo nagwithdraw ng malaki bago kayo tinawagan ng banko?

Same. I chose BPI din kasi dun na ako may account e. Hinihintay ko lang din update ni arielbit kung ano itatanong although sure naman ako na masasagot natin yan in case sa atin mangyari. Kumbaga reference question lang para may idea tayo beforehand interview.

BDO lang talaga mahigpit no. May closed account pa iyon e nabasa ko sa coins.ph facebook page I think month/s ago tapos nag viral yata.
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