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legendary
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November 07, 2014, 09:55:20 PM
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Altcoin scene has been taken advantage of during the past year by many of these pump and dump groups completely. Now that the blood is thin and no one is falling for their schemes, they turn on each other.

Real money is watching. They are not impressed, to say the least.
the best comment i have read since this whole story has come out.
legendary
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TK808 - Co-founder and CEO of CoinsSource has indeed responded to my PM so apologies to him for claiming he's ignoring me. I assumed he'd want to respond publicly in this thread so didn't expect a PM. Here's what he had to say:







tk - I still believe a public apology to Dan and his respective projects is in order but I commend you on taking action against Aleppo.


Aleppo Allesadero, it seems you have precedence for poor journalism. I hope prospective employers see this and you never work in journalism again.



For that one article you want to ruin my whole career Huh you said yourself 99% are fine

edit ~ I can forgive you, as you clearly seem to harsh. You did what you had to do to get me fired i understand.
im not going to take revenge or threaten you etc etc, im simply not like that, you can believe i have ties to SDC and more but in reality ive never been paid by them
full member
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TK808 - Co-founder and CEO of CoinsSource has indeed responded to my PM so apologies to him for claiming he's ignoring me. I assumed he'd want to respond publicly in this thread so didn't expect a PM. Here's what he had to say:







tk - I still believe a public apology to Dan and his respective projects is in order but I commend you on taking action against Aleppo.


Aleppo Allesadero, it seems you have precedence for poor journalism. I hope prospective employers see this and you never work in journalism again.




Justice.
newbie
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TK808 - Co-founder and CEO of CoinsSource has indeed responded to my PM so apologies to him for claiming he's ignoring me. I assumed he'd want to respond publicly in this thread so didn't expect a PM. Here's what he had to say:







tk - I still believe a public apology to Dan and his respective projects is in order but I commend you on taking action against Aleppo.


Aleppo Allesadero, it seems you have precedence for poor journalism. I hope prospective employers see this and you never work in journalism again.


newbie
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ib88, you have covered this topic very well. I'm glad that things are slowly being resolved. Just to point out to what ib88 mentioned, you seriously bought information from a troll??? Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh

It would take 2 seconds to realize the account 'NoMoreLies' was created for the SOLE PURPOSE of destroying XC. Any logical journalist would have gotten much more information on the story instead of doing what you did. Whether you are with SDC or not (as you claim), its being naive, lazy and unprofessional on your part. You deserve everything that has happened to you. I hope you learn from your lesson here, and also if you were involved in SDC, they could say goodbye to their media connection.

Reality--------------------------------------------------------------What you think

intelligence-----------------------------------------------------------where you are
newbie
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ib88, you have covered this topic very well. I'm glad that things are slowly being resolved. Just to point out to what ib88 mentioned, you seriously bought information from a troll??? Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh


And back to this point. It's in Aleppo's interests to claim ignorance than to admit being corrupted by an agenda-driven group of scumbags. I'd take everything he says with a pinch of salt.  Wink
newbie
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ib88, you have covered this topic very well. I'm glad that things are slowly being resolved. Just to point out to what ib88 mentioned, you seriously bought information from a troll??? Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh

It would take 2 seconds to realize the account 'NoMoreLies' was created for the SOLE PURPOSE of destroying XC. Any logical journalist would have gotten much more information on the story instead of doing what you did. Whether you are with SDC or not (as you claim), its being naive, lazy and unprofessional on your part. You deserve everything that has happened to you. I hope you learn from your lesson here, and also if you were involved in SDC, they could say goodbye to their media connection.

Reality--------------------------------------------------------------What you think

The thing is I've tried to engage in constructive discussion with you but you make it impossible. You don't back your opinion up with any reasoning whatsoever. This topic sought to show how incredibly unprofessional it was to print that article. This has proven to be the case - CoinsSource withdrew the article and fired Aleppo Allesadero. So I don't see how your post makes any sense. If anything your post reflects you.
legendary
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ib88, you have covered this topic very well. I'm glad that things are slowly being resolved. Just to point out to what ib88 mentioned, you seriously bought information from a troll??? Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh

It would take 2 seconds to realize the account 'NoMoreLies' was created for the SOLE PURPOSE of destroying XC. Any logical journalist would have gotten much more information on the story instead of doing what you did. Whether you are with SDC or not (as you claim), its being naive, lazy and unprofessional on your part. You deserve everything that has happened to you. I hope you learn from your lesson here, and also if you were involved in SDC, they could say goodbye to their media connection.

Reality--------------------------------------------------------------What you think
newbie
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ib88, you have covered this topic very well. I'm glad that things are slowly being resolved. Just to point out to what ib88 mentioned, you seriously bought information from a troll??? Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh

It would take 2 seconds to realize the account 'NoMoreLies' was created for the SOLE PURPOSE of destroying XC. Any logical journalist would have gotten much more information on the story instead of doing what you did. Whether you are with SDC or not (as you claim), its being naive, lazy and unprofessional on your part. You deserve everything that has happened to you. I hope you learn from your lesson here, and also if you were involved in SDC, they could say goodbye to their media connection.

Thanks. I've put a lot of time and effort into this because cryptocurrencies will never ever be taken seriously if the people involved don't hold themselves to the same standards as other industries. The crytpo scene is akin to the Wild Wild West at the moment. It's sad that an apparently reputable site such as CoinsSource can just print such unfounded crap. News sites like CS have a responsibility to present information as truthfully as possible, without bias, to potential investors. I commend the ideals behind CS as their influence in bringing new investors to the scene cannot be underestimated.

newbie
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ib88, you have covered this topic very well. I'm glad that things are slowly being resolved. Just to point out to what ib88 mentioned, you seriously bought information from a troll??? Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh

It would take 2 seconds to realize the account 'NoMoreLies' was created for the SOLE PURPOSE of destroying XC. Any logical journalist would have gotten much more information on the story instead of doing what you did. Whether you are with SDC or not (as you claim), its being naive, lazy and unprofessional on your part. You deserve everything that has happened to you. I hope you learn from your lesson here, and also if you were involved in SDC, they could say goodbye to their media connection.
newbie
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The PM was asking for a statement on the scam accusation like a brief interview i had even confirmed with TK that i would be using the source and he didn't mind, i can't share the communication i had when we confirmed as ive signed a NDA with him...

I'm hugely skeptical of your claims about the content of that PM. Can you at least show proof that the NDA exists? You can edit out personal details but include a provable timestamp. No decent journalist would ask for an interview with a troll account that has a clear agenda against Dan and his projects. 'NoMoreLies' account was created solely for the purpose of this smear campaign. This is obvious from his post history. You're well used to these forums so you can't claim ignorance. Regardless, any good journalist puts in research before writing. It would've taken all of 2 minutes of research to see 'NoMoreLies' is nothing but a troll account.

"Yep the money should be handed back over", just my opinion besides i could accuse you of the same thing promoting this article: http://www.cryptoarticles.com/crypto-news/chronology-of-the-smear-campaign-against-the-blocknet
which claims the whole incident was part of a smear campaign ...

The fact that that was your opinion is the problem. This opinion was formed before you wrote the article. You were, therefore, in no position to write an unbiased and balanced piece on the whole debacle. If you wrote it in your own personal blog that would've been fine. But you abused your position as a journalist on CoinsSource to further validate these trolls' smear campaign. That article you link was written by XC PR guy and STILL displays less bias than your article. What does that tell you?

Btw i had no prior knowledge of NoMoreLies previous incidents or his background so please do not pair us together for the wrong reasons.

Again, ignorance can't be an excuse here. Like I said 2 minutes of research would tell you what he's all about.

I CAN PUT MY HAND ON MY HEART AND SAY I HAVE NOT ACCEPTED A SINGLE SATOSHI/DOLLAR FROM SDC
believe me or not its your call at the end of the day

Are you saying you had no financial gain whatsoever? Well, I'm sorry but I can't think of any other motive for such an obvious agenda-driven article. The thing is I think 99% of your articles are fine but I believe you perhaps made one bad judgement call here by colluding with these guys. Who's to say you won't do it again though?

btw Profx im fired from CS what can i do to prove that i have no ties to SDC :?

Well you have no one to blame but yourself here. I hope you've learned your lesson. CS have obviously cut ties with you largely based on my findings here, i gather. When TK808 felt I didn't have concrete proof he had no problem engaging in a discussion with me. Now that the truth is out he's ignoring CoinsSource part in all this, hoping it just gets forgotten about. He's fired you but hasn't taken any accountability himself for this. I hope his absence is because he's busy preparing a public apology on CoinsSource. I won't hold my breath though.

I guess you can't prove you don't have ties. Your ties, I believe are with SDC troll group, not with SDC itself in case there's a misunderstanding here. You're continued denial of your association with them is obviously in your best interests but I find it very far-fetched.


edit - ib88 your post history is pretty much XC and Blocknet i understand you have everything to lose i can sympathize with you and your position but these continuous attacks are a sign of desperation. I have never made any direct threat to you not even a hint yet you continue to attack...   

Yes, a big part of all this is due to my investment interests. What you don't seem to realise is that thousands of people have invested their hard-earned money into XC and Blocknet. You have unfairly caused irreparable damage by writing that article - an article that has contributed to the value of these investments dropping significantly. This is completely unfair. Intelligent people can see through the smear campaign the SDC trolls have orchestrated on these forums. However, by CoinsSource publishing your article it has given credibility to these scumbags. Thankfully the article has since been pulled. The damage has already been done though. There are many people who have read that article and will forever associate Dan Metcalf with being a scammer. If I was him I would be pursuing legal action against CoinsSource and I would win. I'll let Dan decide that for himself though.



legendary
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NomoreLies is a confirmed SDC troll. Three of my posts in the BlockNET scam thread have been deleted. Their agenda is clear that at this point they only want more FUD to pile up into that thread. There is no denying the fact that Alessandro has ties to SDC. I am just trying to figure out what he has at stake with SDC, if he is involved in their inner circle of pumpers, scammers and trolls or if he has been paid a hefty sum to follow the SDC agenda and write about what ever they are trying to push. Either way, I would like coin source to issue an apology statement about that article and also see it that Alessandro is fired for his unprofessional journalism.
You still trying to pin all this on Shadow project..Like it somehow hurts it and thus hurts us! Kid you're way out of your league!
legendary
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The PM was asking for a statement on the scam accusation like a brief interview i had even confirmed with TK that i would be using the source and he didn't mind, i can't share the communication i had when we confirmed as ive signed a NDA with him...

"Yep the money should be handed back over", just my opinion besides i could accuse you of the same thing promoting this article: http://www.cryptoarticles.com/crypto-news/chronology-of-the-smear-campaign-against-the-blocknet
which claims the whole incident was part of a smear campaign ...

Btw i had no prior knowledge of NoMoreLies previous incidents or his background so please do not pair us together for the wrong reasons.

I CAN PUT MY HAND ON MY HEART AND SAY I HAVE NOT ACCEPTED A SINGLE SATOSHI/DOLLAR FROM SDC
believe me or not its your call at the end of the day

btw Profx im fired from CS what can i do to prove that i have no ties to SDC :?

edit - ib88 your post history is pretty much XC and Blocknet i understand you have everything to lose i can sympathize with you and your position but these continuous attacks are a sign of desperation. I have never made any direct threat to you not even a hint yet you continue to attack...   
newbie
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NomoreLies is a confirmed SDC troll. Three of my posts in the BlockNET scam thread have been deleted. Their agenda is clear that at this point they only want more FUD to pile up into that thread. There is no denying the fact that Alessandro has ties to SDC. I am just trying to figure out what he has at stake with SDC, if he is involved in their inner circle of pumpers, scammers and trolls or if he has been paid a hefty sum to follow the SDC agenda and write about what ever they are trying to push. Either way, I would like coin source to issue an apology statement about that article and also see it that Alessandro is fired for his unprofessional journalism.
newbie
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Hi,
im not being deceitful in any way my post history is public.
It seems as if you have a personal vendetta against me which you claimed to have "dropped" which is why i talked in 3rd person about myself or else bias and emotion would have come into play when you made judgments on me.

~A.A~ #career not dead yet


You came into this thread and deliberately tried to give the impression that you aren't Aleppo. That is deceitful. I said I dropped it, yes, but that was before I discovered the irrefutable proof.

I don't know you at all. Your name hadn't even registered on my radar until you wrote that disgraceful agenda-driven article. In fact, knowing these new facts about you, one would have to say you're the one with the personal vendetta against Dan (or else it was for financial gain). You haven't even tried to counter any of the proof.

What was the content of your PM to NoMoreLies by the way? For anyone reading who might need context: 'NoMoreLies' is an account created when the fud-storm against Dan, XC and Blocknet all started. The account was solely used to spam the forum with baseless allegations against Dan and his projects. Aleppo stated in one of 'NoMoreLies'' threads that "Yep the money should be handed back over" in relation to the Blocknet funds. In the main "Scam" thread, created by 'NoMoreLies' (who is more than likely TrollsRoyce) you commented 'Check pm NoMoreLies mate i sent you a message Cheesy'. This was the night before your article was published. No doubt the contents of that pm is about the article and you were sending it to him to go over before publishing it on CoinsSource. You even quoted 'NoMoreLies' in the article. It's so ironic his handle is 'NoMoreLies' btw! Cheesy

Your career is not dead yet but I haven't even started. When I get time this week, I'll be putting together all the facts in a balanced and unbiased article that I'll put up on some blog hosting website. This will serve as a deterrent to any prospective employer who does an ounce of research on you. It will show just how 'credible' a journalist you really are. I'll post a link to it in response to any 'Aleppo Allesadero' article that appears online. This will allow your audience to know that you have a history of corruption and your word is not to be trusted.

It will be interesting to hear tk808's take on the matter.
legendary
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Hi,
im not being deceitful in any way my post history is public.
It seems as if you have a personal vendetta against me which you claimed to have "dropped" which is why i talked in 3rd person about myself or else bias and emotion would have come into play when you made judgments on me.

~A.A~ #career not dead yet
newbie
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its fun to watch so many assholes use words like 'defame' and slander when it doesnt amount to shit.  Grin

A wild supernet shill appears! I understand you do some sort of pr work for supernet?

And to your comment - did you have the same response when people accused supernet of being a scam? Hypocrite
sr. member
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its fun to watch so many assholes use words like 'defame' and slander when it doesnt amount to shit.  Grin
newbie
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Please do keep a eye on him but were pretty harsh from what i've read ...

edit : "he's still a very poor journalist" how so ? is this a opinion BTC fact ?It seems as if you had targeted him because of that one article and i haven't even seen his name on the forum anywhere Huh


you deceitful coward.

https://i.imgur.com/Iof1cBB.jpg?1


Have you anything to say for yourself?



Yet ANOTHER incriminating post by Aleppo:

https://i.imgur.com/xy25cWq.jpg?2

You formed the opinion that refunds should be given out on the Blocknet. This was before you published the article. How is it possible to write an unbiased and balanced piece when you have already stated that there should be a refund? Your article deliberately aimed to defame Dan Metcalf's character and so too the Blocknet project.

I've been criticised in this thread for not providing proof and basing everything off my own opinion. The above screenshots is IRREFUTABLE PROOF! Do you have anything to say in your defence, Aleppo? Although, how does one defend the indefensible. You've seen all the above proof and yet refuse to respond. Your silence speaks volumes.


tk808 - Do you have anything to say in light of this proof? Will you still continue to publish Aleppo's articles now that it has been proven he uses your website as a medium to project his own agenda? What is your vetting process for journalists to write for you, it seems you allow anyone to write any old shit.
legendary
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This guy sums it up pretty well.


So they exposed the truth about Dan.

How does the fact that this information leak was premeditated take away from the fact that it's all now confirmed to be genuine?

They wanted to find an honest journalist who would be willing to write a truthful article which would expose the facts. Now they don't seem like a particularly honest bunch themselves but it seems they were part of this "inner circle" and knew what was behind XC and Blocknet. They knew exposing the truth would save people money, so I can't really fault them for that. These lines in particular are interesting:

9:52 AM <•MrBoh> coindada said the devs are all planing on making abusrd btc offf this
...
9:54 AM <•MrBoh> he seems worried its gonna backfire on him though
9:54 AM <•MrBoh> the way hes talking... saying "if we can pul it off"
...
9:58 AM <•MrBoh> just think its fucked people gonan get burnt hard on blocknet

You drawing attention to the fact that people from Shadowcoin were behind this info leak just sounds like an attempt to divert attention away from the fact that all these things that you were refusing to acknowledge as genuine and dismissing as baseless "FUD" are true.

You seem like you're trying to imply that because they potentially have something to gain from the downfall of XC and Blocknet(they are a competing coin after all) that everything that's been confirmed to be true now by Dan and Prometheus themselves should be discarded. I don't follow that logic.
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