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Topic: CoinTerra announces its first ASIC - Hash-Rate greater than 500 GH/s - page 56. (Read 231002 times)

sr. member
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I'm definitely not angry at cointerra as they're not even late yet...

Cointerra is late for their December and early January batch deliveries and that is not even up for debate. What is up for debate is what the value will be to you when you receive what you ordered.

I personally still think that Cointerra has the best value if they ship what was advertised before April, 2014. But if they cannot ship what was advertised, they would lose credibility, and worst, they will take a hit on their profit margin. So you see, they cannot afford to ship less than what was advertised. They are going to resolve what ever outstanding issues they have, or die trying. So that only increases my confidence that I will get what was advertised, though it will arrive much later than what was advertised.

notice that he said his HF orders are late since Oct yet Conterra isn't per the ToS...   well, that ToS says that HF is only late a few weeks not months as well

sr. member
Activity: 278
Merit: 250
I'm definitely not angry at cointerra as they're not even late yet...

Cointerra is late for their December and early January batch deliveries and that is not even up for debate. What is up for debate is what the value will be to you when you receive what you ordered.

I personally still think that Cointerra has the best value if they ship what was advertised before April, 2014. But if they cannot ship what was advertised, they would lose credibility, and worst, they will take a hit on their profit margin. So you see, they cannot afford to ship less than what was advertised. They are going to resolve what ever outstanding issues they have, or die trying. So that only increases my confidence that I will get what was advertised, though it will arrive much later than what was advertised.
hero member
Activity: 702
Merit: 500
As the community matures and spreads knowledge about the dangers of investing in pre-orders one can only hope that newer companies come into our community and offer things that exist in real time. This sort of thing is going to continue over and over again until a few companies put stock on the shelf to satisfy the would be miner.

Avalon is shipping from stock, now.  The community seems to ignore them and buy pre-orders.


i don't see anything to buy in their shop? (except bulk chips...) care to say where they're shipping from?  and whats you are referring to thats in stock?

http://avalon-asics.com/shop/



I just checked.  You're right.  However, they have sold miners, and mining modules in the recent past.


avalon were once good.  their chips were the only ones around.

but they've been overtaken by almost everyone else.  avalon have fallen by the wayside.. i don't see them coming back.

their chips are no longer competitive... and even if they sell from stock... i don't see them able to compete with the new stuff from knc, hf, bm, bf, ba, ct, et al.

legendary
Activity: 1246
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As the community matures and spreads knowledge about the dangers of investing in pre-orders one can only hope that newer companies come into our community and offer things that exist in real time. This sort of thing is going to continue over and over again until a few companies put stock on the shelf to satisfy the would be miner.

Avalon is shipping from stock, now.  The community seems to ignore them and buy pre-orders.


i don't see anything to buy in their shop? (except bulk chips...) care to say where they're shipping from?  and whats you are referring to thats in stock?

http://avalon-asics.com/shop/



I just checked.  You're right.  However, they have sold miners, and mining modules in the recent past.
hero member
Activity: 702
Merit: 500
[You negotiating with HF? Now this is interesting. Why not share more details in the HF thread?

not really.  the big argument the guys in that forum thread have with hashfast is whether they will ever get their btc back.  i don't think they will, without a legal fight.. and hashfast can afford much better and more expensive lawyers so i think it won't end well and the fight could last a long time.

I'm simply negotiating with them for whether i decide to cancel my order and get a refund, or leave the order in, and what that will mean.  its a different argument from the one the main hashfast haters are having with them.  but its still academic as i have no idea when hashfast is going to ship any orders.  sure, 4 boxes have been sent to icedrill... and one to luke jnr.  that makes 5 hand built systems.  thats not production.. so i genuinely don't know when they will go into production.. but all i know is that i ordered my systems the same time as icedrill, and I've no clue when I'm going to get them.

hero member
Activity: 702
Merit: 500
if anyone wants to meet up next week I'm gonna be in miami for the bitcoin conference.

may also swing by cointerra if they've got anything cool to see.  hoping for a working system soon!

-- Jez
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1007
Sure, I'm negotiating with them - in good faith - as to what happens now, as i feel I've overpaid with my order compared to when I'm going to receive it. 

you are negotiating with them? i tought they arent answering emails/phone?

You negotiating with HF? Now this is interesting. Why not share more details in the HF thread?
hero member
Activity: 702
Merit: 500
As the community matures and spreads knowledge about the dangers of investing in pre-orders one can only hope that newer companies come into our community and offer things that exist in real time. This sort of thing is going to continue over and over again until a few companies put stock on the shelf to satisfy the would be miner.

Avalon is shipping from stock, now.  The community seems to ignore them and buy pre-orders.


i don't see anything to buy in their shop? (except bulk chips...) care to say where they're shipping from?  and whats you are referring to thats in stock?

http://avalon-asics.com/shop/

legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1002
As the community matures and spreads knowledge about the dangers of investing in pre-orders one can only hope that newer companies come into our community and offer things that exist in real time. This sort of thing is going to continue over and over again until a few companies put stock on the shelf to satisfy the would be miner.

Avalon is shipping from stock, now.  The community seems to ignore them and buy pre-orders.
legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1002
has anyone been in contact with cointerra?  I have emailed them a couple of times with no response

They have a support position advertised.  They responded to my application.
full member
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Cool i didn't ask you, you're probably just a shill anyways.  I understand all the contract semantics behind this okay pal, thanks for giving us your brilliant insight. 

Nope, not a shill, just a customer.  I'm glad you understand it, but your posts suggest otherwise.  Since we're throwing shill accusations at anyone that disagrees with us I think you're a shill for a competitor.



Ya?  A shill for what company? NONE OF THEM ARE DELIVERING!!!!!!

LOL
ImI
legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1019
Sure, I'm negotiating with them - in good faith - as to what happens now, as i feel I've overpaid with my order compared to when I'm going to receive it. 

you are negotiating with them? i tought they arent answering emails/phone?
hero member
Activity: 702
Merit: 500
Well since you have so much extra 'access' why don't you tell us wtf is going on over there, and if you're such  big buyer i don't know why you're acting so cool and collected about this and defending them, you should be more angry than anyone on this forum.

put this into context.  i ordered a lot of hashfast systems and they're more than 3 months late(!)  and I'm not angry at them either.  Sure, I'm negotiating with them - in good faith - as to what happens now, as i feel I've overpaid with my order compared to when I'm going to receive it.  i paid a lot more, per gh for my hashfast systems than i did for my cointerra systems on the basis that the hashfast ones were sposed to arrive 2-3 months ahead of the cointerra ones.  Cointerra by comparison was a bargain - especially now that it looks like they both could ship in the same few week window, yet one was significantly cheaper than the other.  had hashfast delivered in october, that too would've been well priced... and it was on that basis that i ordered from them.

I'm definitely not angry at cointerra as they're not even late yet... and I'm still hopeful that the january batch will ship in january - they still have two weeks left (to start shipping, at least).  if it slips into february i won't be angry at them either.. as thats part of the deal i signed up to.  if they delay til march or april, i will probably start to get more anxious!  but angry... no, not ever!

if i was ordering new equipment, NOW, i couldn't get it in the same timeframe, at a similar price.

btw, if anyone does want to cancel their batch 1 hashfast or batch 1 cointerra, let me know... as i might want to buy it !  i can't buy anything cheaper in that delivery timeframe.

legendary
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Merit: 1193
Ya?  A shill for what company? NONE OF THEM ARE DELIVERING!!!!!!

Bitfury and Bitmain are in-stock and delivering very fast.
full member
Activity: 127
Merit: 100

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Cool i didn't ask you, you're probably just a shill anyways.  I understand all the contract semantics behind this okay pal, thanks for giving us your brilliant insight. 

Nope, not a shill, just a customer.  I'm glad you understand it, but your posts suggest otherwise.  Since we're throwing shill accusations at anyone that disagrees with us I think you're a shill for a competitor.



Ya?  A shill for what company? NONE OF THEM ARE DELIVERING!!!!!!
full member
Activity: 127
Merit: 100
Cool i didn't ask you, you're probably just a shill anyways. 

and thats even better asicthread-gold. everybody who dares to speak up against lunatic conspiracytheories is promptly maked as "shill".

so much lolz!

I guess its a conspiracy theory that conterra is late on their shipment dates now? 

no but the talk about shills and cointerra selfmining (go back some pages and read) is nothing more than that.

I never mentioned anything about self mining,

wiki first line: shill -A shill, also called a plant or a stooge, is a person who publicly helps a person or organization without disclosing that they have a close relationship with the person or organization


This guy comes onto this forum with three comments, specifically picks THIS thread of all the other threads and mining scams, and starts talking up cointerra and talking about the legal implications of our contract and also the potential dev. problems because he has a 'background' in hardware.  He walks like a duck quacks like a duck.  Whether I'm wrong or not doesn't matter i don't care to hear from customers who are satisfied with taking this crap from over-promising/under-delivering asic manufacturers.


newbie
Activity: 19
Merit: 0

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Cool i didn't ask you, you're probably just a shill anyways.  I understand all the contract semantics behind this okay pal, thanks for giving us your brilliant insight. 

Nope, not a shill, just a customer.  I'm glad you understand it, but your posts suggest otherwise.  Since we're throwing shill accusations at anyone that disagrees with us I think you're a shill for a competitor.

ImI
legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1019
Cool i didn't ask you, you're probably just a shill anyways. 

and thats even better asicthread-gold. everybody who dares to speak up against lunatic conspiracytheories is promptly maked as "shill".

so much lolz!

I guess its a conspiracy theory that conterra is late on their shipment dates now? 

no but the talk about shills and cointerra selfmining (go back some pages and read) is nothing more than that.
full member
Activity: 127
Merit: 100
Its a conspiracy theory that cointerra is late on their shipments and its completely appalling that i would dare to mention my dissatisfaction of that fact on this public forum, you're right ImI i should just STFU.
full member
Activity: 127
Merit: 100
Cool i didn't ask you, you're probably just a shill anyways. 

and thats even better asicthread-gold. everybody who dares to speak up against lunatic conspiracytheories is promptly maked as "shill".

so much lolz!

I guess its a conspiracy theory that conterra is late on their shipment dates now? 
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