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Topic: CoinTerra announces its first ASIC - Hash-Rate greater than 500 GH/s - page 59. (Read 231002 times)

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Just breached over 2000MM on the next difficulty prediction, it will probably be much more for the next adjustment.  There have been large spikes this month, several petahash...Hashfast is not shipping who is putting this hashing power on the network?  Is it KNC?

Apparently not.
legendary
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Just breached over 2000MM on the next difficulty prediction, it will probably be much more for the next adjustment.  There have been large spikes this month, several petahash...Hashfast is not shipping who is putting this hashing power on the network?  Is it KNC?
2000 MM?  Source please.
Last jump was under 400, bitcoinwisdom projects 500MM.


A large % of the spikes can be attributed to variance.
Next target increase is estimated at 30%.

http://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty
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Just breached over 2000MM on the next difficulty prediction, it will probably be much more for the next adjustment.  There have been large spikes this month, several petahash...Hashfast is not shipping who is putting this hashing power on the network?  Is it KNC?
2000 MM?  Source please.
Last jump was under 400, bitcoinwisdom projects 500MM.
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Any idea of price per GH/s?

I am trying to decide to wait for you, or order through KnC.

If you are ok with discarding your KNC product in a couple of months after purchase, then go for it.
MY OH MY...crow anyone??

Funny i remember reading this!
sr. member
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Any idea of price per GH/s?

I am trying to decide to wait for you, or order through KnC.

If you are ok with discarding your KNC product in a couple of months after purchase, then go for it.
MY OH MY...crow anyone??

Haha, what a statement.

hilarious.. and their predictions on their own miners are just as off base
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Any idea of price per GH/s?

I am trying to decide to wait for you, or order through KnC.

If you are ok with discarding your KNC product in a couple of months after purchase, then go for it.
MY OH MY...crow anyone??

Haha, what a statement.
sr. member
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Any idea of price per GH/s?

I am trying to decide to wait for you, or order through KnC.

If you are ok with discarding your KNC product in a couple of months after purchase, then go for it.
MY OH MY...crow anyone??
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full member
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I think that they were completely legit problems, it doesn't make a lot of sense not to ship if you can and if your customers have that contract in hand.

They simply solved it during the first days of the year, as they said it would happen during the last communications we had from them or so.

/ot

So you're  implying that hashfast has put this on the network.  I have been following the hashfast thread somewhat, are you going to be involved in any lawsuits with them?
legendary
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I think that they were completely legit problems, it doesn't make a lot of sense not to ship if you can and if your customers have that contract in hand.

They simply solved it during the first days of the year, as they said it would happen during the last communications we had from them or so.

/ot
sr. member
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Hashfast is not shipping who is putting this hashing power on the network?
HashFast has proved to be able to ship at least 4 completely working units to IceDrill, see their thread for more info.
If they can make 4 perfect units, there are not many reasons for them not being able to do 400, given their claims to have chips in hand (email: http://hashfast.org/Email/31_December_2013) ready for ... Well, for a lot of miners.

So were their many problems faked?  Or overblown to give the impression they were not ready to ship and then force refunds on you all?

Nice touch to send a junked miner to Luke Jr
legendary
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Hashfast is not shipping who is putting this hashing power on the network?
HashFast has proved to be able to ship at least 4 completely working units to IceDrill, see their thread for more info.
If they can make 4 perfect units, there are not many reasons for them not being able to do 400, given their claims to have chips in hand (email: http://hashfast.org/Email/31_December_2013) ready for ... Well, for a lot of miners.
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Just breached over 2000MM on the next difficulty prediction, it will probably be much more for the next adjustment.  There have been large spikes this month, several petahash...Hashfast is not shipping who is putting this hashing power on the network?  Is it KNC?
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So what is the consensus here, should we be concerned about late machines that also underperform?

Speculating about what the timing and numbers behind the latest news release mean by a bunch of yahoos like us isn't going to produce much. I'll bite, though. I'm guessing this was a guy taking a little time out of the normal stress testing electronics go through:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-temperature_operating_life

KNC probably skimped on this a little, and thus had failure rates higher than consumers are used to. (It's super rare an off-the-shelf motherboard has capacitors that burn). The ambient temperature of 55C seems a bit strange to me, but it's quite possible a temperature sensor on the board is seeing this, or they're trying to operate the chips at higher than normal operation (e.g. 125C). I wouldn't want a firmware released that can permanently fry the chips, or rather, I'd like to know where the 'risk zone' is with respect to temperature, voltage, current, etc.

As for the hash rate, one thing I noticed was that there are zero reported hardware errors in the screenshot. Granted, it's only 60s of hashing and it's most likely the software not reporting things; or, more optimistically, they're really underclocked.

They know every week counts. They're in this for the long haul (they hope to be "the Intel of bitcoin" in Iyengar's words).
Yeah I too noticed that there were no HW errors at all which is very impressive compared to the competition's ASICs.  I'm sure there's still a lot of room for speed increases but they're probably trying to get the speed up without going over their power targets.  Hopefully they succeed or I'm gonna have to pay for new power wiring before April, lol.
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So what is the consensus here, should we be concerned about late machines that also underperform?

Speculating about what the timing and numbers behind the latest news release mean by a bunch of yahoos like us isn't going to produce much. I'll bite, though. I'm guessing this was a guy taking a little time out of the normal stress testing electronics go through:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-temperature_operating_life

KNC probably skimped on this a little, and thus had failure rates higher than consumers are used to. (It's super rare an off-the-shelf motherboard has capacitors that burn). The ambient temperature of 55C seems a bit strange to me, but it's quite possible a temperature sensor on the board is seeing this, or they're trying to operate the chips at higher than normal operation (e.g. 125C). I wouldn't want a firmware released that can permanently fry the chips, or rather, I'd like to know where the 'risk zone' is with respect to temperature, voltage, current, etc.

As for the hash rate, one thing I noticed was that there are zero reported hardware errors in the screenshot. Granted, it's only 60s of hashing and it's most likely the software not reporting things; or, more optimistically, they're really underclocked.

They know every week counts. They're in this for the long haul (they hope to be "the Intel of bitcoin" in Iyengar's words).
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So what is the consensus here, should we be concerned about late machines that also underperform?
legendary
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They didn't leave it running.

Yeah, why? Overheated? Chip fried? Hashing failed? Caps blew?

Though it doesn't look like problems— it looks like they ran it there just for the demo.

http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1CTtm4iiwqt35Rgew1DQW6YoSwN4bKNopf

For a device that needs to run 24/7/365, the fact that they only had it running for mere minutes on Eligius is highly troubling.
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Very interesting that they wouldn't just point it to the same place they have been testing the whole time.  I wonder why!    Cheesy
Why do you even assume they are testing (much) on the production network?  Up-thread I was arguing that doing so is a poor choice both for technical (not a great test case, noisy and doesn't test things like big blocks) and professional (competing with your customers is bad mojo) reasons.


Maybe do half and half?  That way they make millions of dollars more profit for themselves.  Wouldn't you?
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Very interesting that they wouldn't just point it to the same place they have been testing the whole time.  I wonder why!    Cheesy
Why do you even assume they are testing (much) on the production network?  Up-thread I was arguing that doing so is a poor choice both for technical (not a great test case, noisy and doesn't test things like big blocks) and professional (competing with your customers is bad mojo) reasons.

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Very interesting that they wouldn't just point it to the same place they have been testing the whole time.  I wonder why!    Cheesy
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