CoinTerra announces its first ASIC - Hash-Rate greater than 500 GH/s - page 63.

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Quote from: lucazane on January 11, 2014, 12:06:08 PM

They are talking about 132 GH per die (http://cointerra.com/engineering-update-asic-bringup-diagnostic-testing/)
And here we can see each ASIC has 4 dies (http://cointerra.com/engineering-update-goldstrike-packaged-chips-system-board-assembly/)

Can we expect to have 528 GH per ASIC and so 2112 GH per TerraMiner ? What are you thinking ?

while that does look possible in theory.. itd be an unsafe assumption to simply take the announced single die performance and multiply by four to conclude that when all four dies are operating that you will get a simple multiplying of the result...

... as we dont know that when all four dies are running at the same time, whether the chip will hit the max power or thermal limits of the package (or the cooling system, or the dc/dc converters... or the power supply.. etc). theres plenty of parts of the system that could place limits on its overall performance so lets wait til they tell us what it can do... as its been designed to operate at faster speeds and presumably more watts (and thus hotter) than any chip we've seen so far..

.. and since they said it was gonna be 500 GH per chip, i think it would be optimistic to speculate it goes any faster than that (... unless they tell us that)

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Quote from: plato14 on January 11, 2014, 04:31:21 PM

Mine @ p2pool

I think that the cointerra customers are going to put a lot of hashing power on the network here in the next few months. It would be tragic if we were to put most of that hashing power on the big pools i.e. ghash.io, btcguild, or elegius. If we brought all of this hashing power to p2pool we that would be awesome and would help keep the network decentralized. There are no fees and the pool is hardly ever down. Its really not that hard to setup and setting up a node is really not that bad if you have a little extra room on your hard drive for the client, and if you don't you can always use someone else's node. Here is a link that makes it really easy to setup, i also hear that some people are working on a GUI to make it even easier to use.

http://p2pool.in

i like p2p and think its longterm the way to go

but, with knc jupiters there were massive performance declines on p2p and alot of miners switched.

i hope that those problems will be sorted out sometime.

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Mine @ p2pool

I think that the cointerra customers are going to put a lot of hashing power on the network here in the next few months. It would be tragic if we were to put most of that hashing power on the big pools i.e. ghash.io, btcguild, or elegius. If we brought all of this hashing power to p2pool we that would be awesome and would help keep the network decentralized. There are no fees and the pool is hardly ever down. Its really not that hard to setup and setting up a node is really not that bad if you have a little extra room on your hard drive for the client, and if you don't you can always use someone else's node. Here is a link that makes it really easy to setup, i also hear that some people are working on a GUI to make it even easier to use.

http://p2pool.in

Edit : http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1uz4g0/p2pgui_a_gui_for_mining_using_p2poolorg/

Edit: http://p2pool.org

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They are talking about 132 GH per die (http://cointerra.com/engineering-update-asic-bringup-diagnostic-testing/)
And here we can see each ASIC has 4 dies (http://cointerra.com/engineering-update-goldstrike-packaged-chips-system-board-assembly/)

Can we expect to have 528 GH per ASIC and so 2112 GH per TerraMiner ? What are you thinking ?

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einc.io

No new update from Cointerra?

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A Friday update would be nice..
How's the testing going??

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Quote from: de_ixie on January 10, 2014, 05:17:02 AM

Quote from: testerx on January 10, 2014, 05:06:24 AM

Quote from: VolanicEruptor on January 09, 2014, 11:38:31 PM

why is it so quiet in here? You would think there would be a lot of action in these threads.
Is everyone still alive?

I don't think there were as many orders with cointerra as some of the other manufacturers. They've only sold about 4000 units so far and a lot probably went to the same people.

Hey, may I ask you from where you got that information -> 4000 units? Any source?

You can make estimates based on info they gave in the past as well as in recent articles. The December batch was much smaller than the other batches and the other batches run approximately 1000 units each and they've sold out four. The best indicator that my estimate is correct are their revenue figures. The source is my own research, I would suggest you do your own as should anybody else committing money

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Quote from: de_ixie on January 10, 2014, 05:17:02 AM

Quote from: testerx on January 10, 2014, 05:06:24 AM

Quote from: VolanicEruptor on January 09, 2014, 11:38:31 PM

why is it so quiet in here? You would think there would be a lot of action in these threads.
Is everyone still alive?

I don't think there were as many orders with cointerra as some of the other manufacturers. They've only sold about 4000 units so far and a lot probably went to the same people.

Hey, may I ask you from where you got that information -> 4000 units? Any source?

http://www.coindesk.com/cointerra-cuts-price-of-terraminer-iv-bitcoin-mining-rig/
This article from coindesk mentioned the following:

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CoinTerra claims it intends to increase the current bitcoin network power by 2 Petahashes per second, which is over four times the current capacity of the whole bitcoin network (487.50 TH/s according to Bitcoin Charts).

Going by that number means they sold 1000 2TH December units. This also roughly correlates to the order numbers I saw when they said they had sold out (they roughly stopped at an enumeration of ~1000). You can estimate that every month they sold another 1000 units, thus December, January, February, March and April orders would amount to 5000 units.

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Quote from: testerx on January 10, 2014, 05:06:24 AM

Quote from: VolanicEruptor on January 09, 2014, 11:38:31 PM

why is it so quiet in here? You would think there would be a lot of action in these threads.
Is everyone still alive?

I don't think there were as many orders with cointerra as some of the other manufacturers. They've only sold about 4000 units so far and a lot probably went to the same people.

Hey, may I ask you from where you got that information -> 4000 units? Any source?

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Quote from: VolanicEruptor on January 09, 2014, 11:38:31 PM

why is it so quiet in here? You would think there would be a lot of action in these threads.
Is everyone still alive?

I don't think there were as many orders with cointerra as some of the other manufacturers. They've only sold about 4000 units so far and a lot probably went to the same people.

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Quote from: VolanicEruptor on January 09, 2014, 11:38:31 PM

why is it so quiet in here? You would think there would be a lot of action in these threads.
Is everyone still alive?

Nothing we can do really, just wait on the next update, cointerra like all other pre-order mining companies has us by the balls

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why is it so quiet in here? You would think there would be a lot of action in these threads.
Is everyone still alive?

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Quote from: Carlton Banks on January 07, 2014, 09:31:42 PM

Judging from what's said to have been ordered, I'm thinking the power throughput might be a problem there (for 3.84 TH/s). But that's not to say there won't be some nice overclocking headroom.

Power and heat, as it is these are chips that will be putting out massive amounts of heat. It would be pretty interesting to get these going under phase or something like that to see just how much you could squeeze out of them but the amount of heat they're going to be putting out is going to be a nightmare to cool with anything other than liquid. Still...if someone were to make a beefy custom waterblock for chilled liquid cooling with some kind of inert liquid and a custom loop it'd certainly be very interesting. Would be very hard to run anything like that in a racked/data center type setup though so it's not really practical if you have more than one lol.

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Quote from: newguy05 on January 08, 2014, 12:03:48 PM

wish they showed a screenshot of the laptop hashing at the stated rate. It's nice and all to see those photos of the hardware, but the key is seeing photo of the laptop screen running at the stated rate and how long the duration is.

I highly doubt that cointerra would lie about the chip bringup so far, and what they've reported is obviously very conservative so it's not something that would make sense to lie about lol.

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Quote from: newguy05 on January 08, 2014, 12:03:48 PM

wish they showed a screenshot of the laptop hashing at the stated rate. It's nice and all to see those photos of the hardware, but the key is seeing photo of the laptop screen running at the stated rate and how long the duration is.

I don't see why you can't trust them to state their testing hash rate truthfully. It's still text on a screen whether it's in a blog post or a cgminer screenshot; either can be faked. Notice they're forgoing the DC-DC units? Functional operation of the chips is fantastic, but it's a symphony of parts that need to be tested, and I suspect the final concert will give a more formal presentation of things like cgminer grabs. Quite frankly working, packaged silicon is really encouraging news.

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Someone is sitting in the shade today...

wish they showed a screenshot of the laptop hashing at the stated rate. It's nice and all to see those photos of the hardware, but the key is seeing photo of the laptop screen running at the stated rate and how long the duration is.

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Quote from: Sitarow on January 07, 2014, 06:29:02 AM

Quote from: Praeconium on January 07, 2014, 12:07:13 AM

Hey guys, could anyone give advice on buying March delivery batch @9btcs in terms of whether its even considerable or should I move on?

If you're contemplating then look at this chart that I have kept up.

It compares available hardware vs possible network increase.

Included is an exponential network growth at 20% and 30%.

However as far as network difficulty forecast is concerned anything greater then 2 - 3 months out is highly speculative.

Make a copy for yourself and key in your own details and existing setup.

Here are the return results if the network increases an average of 20% every 12 days.
Or by end of March 4380085631 difficulty.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmeuPljmUNHCdEpqX2RmMDFwemJyLURVUWFtZ3J3aGc&usp=sharing

Wow, awesome table!Thanks

Quote from: Paladin69 on January 07, 2014, 01:59:23 AM

Quote from: Praeconium on January 07, 2014, 12:07:13 AM

Hey guys, could anyone give advice on buying March delivery batch @9btcs in terms of whether its even considerable or should I move on?

The difficulty is getting obliterated. Every coin is getting more and more precious. I personally wouldn't risk it on these delayed companies.

Ok, thanks

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Quote from: VolanicEruptor on January 07, 2014, 09:55:23 PM

Quote from: Epoch on January 07, 2014, 09:48:06 PM

Quote from: VolanicEruptor on January 07, 2014, 09:39:51 PM

An engine has moving pistons, constantly moving against the cylinder walls..
I think if you can overclock anything, and its stable, its not going to wear out the same as a car..

I guess you're not familiar with electromigration, then.

I still think an engine would wear out a lot faster, but I'm definitely not an expert

That makes 2 of us. Wink

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anyone entertain me as to how long testing will take?

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Quote from: Epoch on January 07, 2014, 09:48:06 PM

Quote from: VolanicEruptor on January 07, 2014, 09:39:51 PM

An engine has moving pistons, constantly moving against the cylinder walls..
I think if you can overclock anything, and its stable, its not going to wear out the same as a car..

I guess you're not familiar with electromigration, then.

I still think an engine would wear out a lot faster, but I'm definitely not an expert

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