Topic: CoinTerra announces its first ASIC - Hash-Rate greater than 500 GH/s - page 70. (Read 231002 times)

Yes today is bumpout day, I'm curious to know what's next as well.

so bumpout is today right?  What happens after this?

Well I still don't have anything in writing so once I've confirmed it I will let you know. 

What does that mean? I'm also one of the rubes with a December order, and am curious what they're offering.

Well figured I'd post an update, after some more communication with cointerra (with many thanks to aerobatic as well for helping) they have made good on coming to a happy resolution for me.  I'm glad that they made it right, and will be paying for another order shortly.  Now to figure out how I'm going to power all these units I have headed my way.

I understand the units should be mountable as 4U rack mount units, but I guess most centers use rail systems?  How does one purchase the right rail?  May likely need to host a few at a dedicated center while we beef up our electrical and cooling infrastructure. 

They have not replied to my email yet. I will let everyone know when they do.

This doesn't make any sense.  You've surely had ample evidence even within the bitcoin mining community that hardware development is difficult to predict in duration, and hardly ever over predicted.  What part of a mid December timeframe predicted months ago did you take for absolute truth?  Delivering two weeks later than predicted - sounds awesome to me.  Anyone with a December batch unit should have known it was a gamble and for this case they lost.  No reason to be bitter over it.  Win some, lose some - and really in this case sounds like a draw.

Cointerra has been selling April batches for awhile now either sells have slowed due to uncertainty that far out or they are planning to ramp up production...

water carries a lot more heat than air.  the tubes don't need to be that thick to carry the heat away.  pc over clockers not only go for performance but for what looks nice.  often they use ultraviolet coloured liquid... and uv tubing with wacky colours.  for our needs, this is overkill... and as long as the flow rate matches the pump/radiator/fan combination, then they will cool at max performance.   

also since the tubing is presumably the lowest cost part of the cooling system, it seems unlikely they would've skimped on that bit and have provided us the right tubing.

also.. the flow rate out of the radiator is 2x what it would be with a single 'loop' as each radiator supplies two asics in parallel.   ( doesn't bring liquid thats been pre-warmed from another asic)...  probably works better than pc enthusiast systems where they have one loop that rings around all the components in series.

I don't think it was in a PR release was it?  At least I didn't notice this in a release, but I might have missed it since I don't usually read the PR releases in super detail.  I did order both a December and a January order.

Water has a pretty high ability to take on heat so the crazy flow that overclockers usually go for is probably a bit overkill.

Did they offer you anything in compensation?  They said they couldn't do anything now to me even though I was also offering to purchase a new (and much larger) order with them.  Maybe I didn't sound upset since I was at my workplace, haha.  But I honestly do think they should bump up the hashrate or something for December orders at the very least since it's so delayed and they were over twice the price.  Maybe I will need to make another call.

Not sure if I should get into this fun flame fest but I did speak to them and the January batch is long gone so I can't switch into it and they said they wouldn't be shipping extra hash rate or any other kind of compensation either unless somehow hey get delayed past Jan 31 (i.e. per their contract) which they didn't anticipate to occur. I wouldn't say that I'm super unhappy, since I did agree to these terms when ordering originally and it sounds like I will be getting the miner soon, but I would say I was annoyed, though part of this is with myself for not switching sooner.  Still, I didn't know they would be shipping them back to back like this in January and given the huge price differential I had figured they would be spacing out the batches when they did ship them-I get why they can't do that now since the competition is shipping huge amounts of hashrate but as an early believer who was willing to pay over twice as much as later adopters...to get the same hashrate only a couple of weeks earlier for 2.4x the price is indeed upsetting.

So...I'm not the super unhappy camper ice claims I am but I am disappointed that they're not doing something for the December purchases to even things out vs the January orders, especially since they originally had a price drop guarantee for the December batch.  The way the price was lowered but via a second batch that will ship sequentially is somewhat upsetting but it's been like five months at this point so I do shoulder blame for not asking earlier-though again I didn't realize they would be shipping both batches in January like this.

That said, I am still considering ordering more units in the future in all likelihood so evidently I'm apparently not unhappy enough to drop them or maybe a sucker for punishment.  I guess I'll see which one I am soon enough lol.

So fabout today right?

aerobatic is an angel investor of Cointerra..  he already won part of the pre-sell pie..  any miners delivered is icing for him..

aerobatic doesnt seem to know much about anything...

It was KnCMiner who did it. They even incorporated changes to airflow proposed at the forum.

It was BFL who gave us their fabout and bumpout dates - even several times (new dates each time).

Thank you for this summary. As a Cointerra advocate (but not a customer), they are dropping into "does not meet expectations" territory fast. It seems unfair that you have to come to the forums to find out that anyone rational should switch their December order to January. With a fabout of December 17th, they will be hard pressed to deliver by the 31st (which would already be a very loose interpretation of their promises).

I guess a few weeks delay should have been expected. For PR purposes, they should definitely "overdeliver" in some aspect (perhaps hashrate) to make up for this.

I don't know about you, but I'm betting on ice.

"Sounds like?"  It's definitely the case (not that you'd know from the Cointerra OP or offical posts).

Oh sorry, I forgot you're still at an early point in the early stages of the grieving process (IE 'denial'), having been only recently informed of the latest expansion of Cointerra's delay.


I thought we were to stay on the subject of Cointerra, and stop the whole "let's change the subject to [OFF-TOPIC ASIC COMPANY]."

Why are alleged shortcomings of [OFF-TOPIC ASIC COMPANY] being used as a defense of Cointerra's failures?

[OFF-TOPIC ASIC COMPANY] has nothing to do with Cointerra's failure to deliver their promised December hardware in December.

[OFF-TOPIC ASIC COMPANY] has nothing to do with Cointerra's slimy practice of selling a chip that didn't exist at a huge premium for a delivery date that was impossible to meet.

[OFF-TOPIC ASIC COMPANY] has nothing to do with Cointerra's slimy practice of hiding the announcement of their delay in a bunch of technical gobbledygook where hardly anyone would see it.

[OFF-TOPIC ASIC COMPANY] has nothing to do with Cointerra's failure to ensure all Batch One customers were aware of the delay and the option to switch to "Feb" orders instead.

[OFF-TOPIC ASIC COMPANY] has nothing to do with Cointerra failing to use their official forum account to keep customers up to date, and it falling on newbs to relay crucial information from press releases and phone calls to customer service.

Well, I wouldn't have taken it because having a unit a month earlier would be worth the difference in price. But now it sounds like that won't be the case.

Though there really is no comparison to hashfast which cost twice again as much and is already several months late.