Topic: Cointerra Hardware Support **Unofficial (Read 57003 times)

Well, throwing my hat in the mining ring.....just took delivery of 8 terror miners picked them up for free not sure If blessing or curse as I have read further I'm Believing more the curse side. But on with the project. So far all the normal problems that they all have. I did find that the fan connectors are very poor quality but by pulling on and off and then finding the sweet spot they will run so all fans good just need tighter fitment at termination. On to the pumps next. Will keep updated.

 Wow I think you just saved me $100.  Are they really that bad of a unit?

 I was just about to pull the trigger on a used Cointerra Terraminer in Toronto that had some cooling pump issues. I love to tinker with electronics and mechanicals so I thought it might be a nice challenge with the possibility of getting a miner in the end.
 I currently just hobby GPU mine and was looking for some cheap asic equip to get my feet wet on and that i can run off my wind generator as the power is semi free and not used when i'm not in the garage.
 I also found an ad for a cheap used gridseed g-blade scrypt miner but from what i read they are just as bad or worse and not useful for anything anymore.
 Any recommendation on what used hardware i should be looking at just to play around with?

Thanks
 

No, unfortunately not.  I think at this point, most (if not all) Cointerra miners have been smashed, ground up, and melted down to create new cars with.  They are pretty much useless at this point as they use way too much power for what little hashrate you get out of them.  Even with the BitCoin price at record highs right now, I don't think that a Cointerra machine could be profitable to run.  I still have one Cointerra machine in my basement right now, but it hasn't run since about 2015 and I gave up trying to work on it a long time ago, lol...  I sunk way too much time and money into trying to keep my Cointerra miners working for as long as possible when it would have been much more sensible to have abandoned them long ago and just upgraded to newer mining hardware.

I recently upgraded my whole mining farm to AntMiner S9's and decommissioned all of my old miners and have never looked back.  I'm getting much better and more stable hashrates and I'm pulling down the best revenues that I ever have since I started mining BitCoin.  I sold off several of my old AntMiner S5's already as well as one of my Cointerra's and a Spondoolies SP31 I had.  All I have left right now is one broken Cointerra for parts (that won't mine at all anymore) and a couple of parts AntMiner S5's (that each of them had one of the hashing boards stop working for some reason).

If anyone wants any of these miners to play with or to scavenge parts off of to keep their other miners going, let me know and you can have them!

Is there any news about Terraminer overclocking?
Maybe some patched file to get higher frequency of PLL?

Regards.

I have water cooler for cointerra...maybe two

I realize my answer comes a bit late, but I would not buy that water block.  For 2 reasons, and before I give them let me say I have a couple of those and have used one on a Hashfast board...

1. You can get that block cheaper on Ebay
2. and more important, you want blocks that have G1/4 fittings.  This is the industry standard basically for computer water cooling.  Almost all gear you look at will be G1/4 so using this and only this will assure you are always compatible.

hi, any conventional positions will waterblock ?. something like this

http://www.banggood.com/CPU-Water-Cooling-Block-Waterblock-50mm-Copper-Base-Cool-Inner-Channel-p-988267.html

its some form of heat spreader.  the novec can carry away a certain amount of heat per sq cm, and for anything hotter you have to increase its surface area to give the novec the chance to do its job.   I've seen heat spreaders that have pin cushions on them before.  the way the heat spreader is attached is also tricky, as the liquid would dissolve the usual forms of thermal paste, so you have to use something that sticks even in liquid.

on the 3M video, what do they have covering the chips???

I thought I was going to see the bare chips.  It looks like they still have to use some form of a heatsink to help remove the heat from those power suckers.

For anyone interested, here is a nice little demo of how 3M uses the Cointerra boards/chips to demonstrate 2-phase immersion cooling.

Video from 3M booth at Supercomputing 2015 (SC15) in Austin:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_vJbGgxPTU

Cointerra chips have been overclocked to 750W this way (instead of 500W each), but not specifically in this demo as far as I can tell.

Interesting to see the Cointerra boards being used by supercomputing folks to see what would be possible if chips would be a tad bit larger than what they are used to and cooling would be different than what we use today (air, water, chillers, etc).

So I believe both boards in one system are having PMBUS faults.   

Status dump from one of my Cointerra's.  Is CTA0 Pretty much dead?


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Ah, I missed that.  Yeah, that could be the issue.  The hashing boards won't power up the ASICs if the pump speed is reporting 0.

LCA = liquid cooling apparatus, pretty sure

It's all good the person I bought it from took it back and I bought 2 more sp20's and decided I was better off as the cointerra doesn't seem to be a set and forget device. I've been mining with antminers/spondoolies and I'll just stick with that.

Just for knowledge what does LCA stand for?

Your pump speeds are reporting zero RPM which means the LCA's have failed.  You have to replace the LCA units.  I have a few extra if you're interested you can PM me

maybe is it possible pool (s) are not set up correctly in configuration.
set up more than one pool

What are the lights on the hashing boards doing?

i just got a cointerra and setup my pool and it connects but doesn't hash. both boards show up but nothing happens


Hash Rate   Accepted   Rejected   Errors
Totals   0 Gh/s   0   0   0
CTA0   0 Gh/s   0   0   0
CTA1   0 Gh/s   0   0   0
CTA0 Metrics   High   Low   Avg
Core Temp 1 (°C)   25.64   24.9   25.24
Core Temp 2 (°C)   27.7   25.29   26.11
Ambient Temp (°C)   27.25   26.75   27
Fan Speed (RPM)   2066   1924   2,009
Pump Speed (RPM)   0   0   0
CTA1 Metrics   High   Low   Avg
Core Temp 1 (°C)   25.59   24.06   24.97
Core Temp 2 (°C)   27.02   25   25.88
Ambient Temp (°C)   27.5   27   27.25
Fan Speed (RPM)   1958   1956   1,957
Pump Speed (RPM)   0   0   0



STATUS      
STATUS   S
When   1444950892
Code   11
Msg   Summary
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SUMMARY      
0   SUMMARY
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MHS av   0.00
MHS 5s   0.00
Found Blocks   0
Getworks   1
Accepted   0
Rejected   0
Hardware Errors   0
Utility   0.00
Discarded   9
Stale   0
Get Failures   0
Local Work   123
Remote Failures   0
Network Blocks   1
Total MH   0.0000
Work Utility   0.00
Difficulty Accepted   0.00000000
Difficulty Rejected   0.00000000
Difficulty Stale   0.00000000
Best Share   0
Device Hardware%   0.0000
Device Rejected%   0.0000
Pool Rejected%   0.0000
Pool Stale%   0.0000
Last getwork   1444950892

The voltage is firmware controlled.  Just run them at power level 1 or 2.  Mine do about 0.8W per GH this way.  Power level 2 is 1024GH@800w at the wall.

They are  much cooler and quieter too.  I am running these on 240V power.   

Just as a test I turned a unit up to power level 9, 1596Gh@1900W.  Ouch!

has ne one heard anything about a posible volt mod for these miners?? the prices have tanked and they can be snagged up for next to nothing these days but the biggest issue of course is the power consumption....these would be great rigs if the watts per gh/s could be improved and im sure they can SOMEHOW. i can repair the boards i just dont know what to do to figure out a posible volt mod....so basically i can work with already defined components but figuring out what to replace and what to replace it with is beyond me probably because i dont have proper schooling but ne way is you change the level in the config page from 1-9 the power consumption is the same throughout each level which shouldnt be that way. if the voltage was being modded with the power level then they should show some increase in efficiency even when comparing level 1 to level 9 the consumption is basically exactly the same which is horrible.

these things have pumps die because the heat is too much for them 24/7 365. the pumps dont actually die most of the time they just dont spin until fixed but running a machine with a siezed pump with kill the pump shortly after it siezes so its best to unhook them. if the efficiency can be made better then running them at much slower speeds isnt an issue for me and probably many others out there since they will be more reliable, use less power, will have fewer failures, and most impacting to the small/home based miner....they will be much quieter when running.

if ne one has ne info on a volt mod please pm me since i dont check this thread too often.